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In10se D
08-23-2010, 04:56 PM
When i went to lunch i heard Cowherd on the radio talk about Cliff Lee hating the Texas heat and just basically waiting for the season to end so he can go to the Yankees. He made it sound like this was something Cliff said or hinted at, did anyone hear anything like that?

The Eyes
08-23-2010, 05:07 PM
Buncha drama queens on this thread. The A's and Angels have zero shot of catching the Rangers. They need to focus on getting healthy for the playoffs instead of rushing Kinsler or Cruz back just to tweak something once again before the postseason. The lineup is 1,000% better with those two All-Star-caliber hitters in it. Not only do they replace Borbon/Boggs and Arias/Blanco, but they help guys like Hamilton and Guerrero see a lot more pitches to hit.

While the Rangers have reached their biggest slump of the year, the A's and Angels have continued to do what they do –– be .500 teams. Something tells me the Rangers aren't going to play 10-14 games under .500 from here on out. I wouldn't compare this to the Mets, because those Phillies teams were far better than the A's and Angels.

Just trying to put things in perspective. I know they aren't playing well right now...but a 162-game season is about the big picture, not knee-jerk reactions from a two-series span. People were giddy after winning a homestand against the Yankees and Red Sox just last week.

Thank you. It's amazing how people can continue to bitch so much over a team with largest divisional lead in baseball.

spystud13
08-23-2010, 05:14 PM
I'm obviously glad my hero is back, but he probably shouldn't be hitting 6th!!



Rangers (Rich Harden)

1. Elvis Andrus, SS
2. Michael Young, 3B
3. Josh Hamilton, LF
4. Vladimir Guerrero, DH
5. David Murphy, RF
6. Matt Treanor, C
7. Mitch Moreland, 1B
8. Andres Blanco, 2B
9. Julio Borbon, CF

spystud13
08-23-2010, 05:43 PM
Damn, Wash got strong!


Manager Ron Washington was asked about this 4-game set against the Twins and its importance in trying to catch Minnesota to secure homefield advantage in a possible first-round playoff series.

Washington said the club wasn't thinking much about that, only trying to improve and win games. But he did state a goal for the series.

"The worst I want to do is go 2-2 against them," Washington said. "We need to be at our best."


Fucking talk about taking a stand...

skipperj
08-23-2010, 05:53 PM
Wtf?

spystud13
08-23-2010, 05:55 PM
That's a leader right there, boys!!!!

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 06:33 PM
I'm obviously glad my hero is back, but he probably shouldn't be hitting 6th!!

ron will do anything to get lefty/righty alternating in the lineup.

spystud13
08-23-2010, 06:37 PM
^^^ Yeah, & Blanco/Borbon pretty much fucking handicaps any options...

spystud13
08-23-2010, 06:45 PM
In case y'all were wondering...


The Rangers are 33-18 when Matt Treanor starts the game behind the plate.

spystud13
08-23-2010, 06:51 PM
Check out this comment from rangers.com...


Bengie Molina is a strong defensive, veteran catcher with a good arm and the ability to handle a pitching staff. Plus he has 2 Golden Glove awards and post-season experience with the Angels in 2002, 04 and 05.


Because you CAN NOT overestimate '05 experience!!

bentleybrau
08-23-2010, 06:55 PM
When i went to lunch i heard Cowherd on the radio talk about Cliff Lee hating the Texas heat and just basically waiting for the season to end so he can go to the Yankees. He made it sound like this was something Cliff said or hinted at, did anyone hear anything like that?

Haven't heard that. Wouldn't be the first time Cowherd was talking out his asshole.

bentleybrau
08-23-2010, 06:57 PM
Check out this comment from rangers.com...




Because you CAN NOT overestimate '05 experience!!

Definitely. May need to bring back Lee Stevens as a bat off the bench for his '98 and '99 experience. He probably moves faster than Molina.

spystud13
08-23-2010, 07:13 PM
I do like the white-on-white, BTW...

CBT
08-23-2010, 07:14 PM
Very racist

MNLonghorn10
08-23-2010, 07:15 PM
its ok to swing the bat joseph

MNLonghorn10
08-23-2010, 07:25 PM
haha wow

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 07:26 PM
great job Murphy

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 07:28 PM
when did this Treanor-May spare get back in our fucking lineup? way to end the rally, fucknut.



just fucking with ya, spy

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 07:31 PM
well, Kinsler's wife is hot

spystud13
08-23-2010, 07:34 PM
when did this Treanor-May spare get back in our fucking lineup? way to end the rally, fucknut.



just fucking with ya, spy


I thought we were gonna have problems!!

F18Mustang
08-23-2010, 07:36 PM
Drew says hey.

spystud13
08-23-2010, 07:37 PM
David Murphy is great, BTW... Never said one word about being our 4th OF when the season started, now he is absolutely invaluable!

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Treanor needs to go to Guzman and get his number back

spystud13
08-23-2010, 07:38 PM
Treanor needs to go to Guzman and get his number back

No sir, I finally ordered the jersey!!

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 07:39 PM
Hard to argue with 6 up 6 down.

But I'm sure I can find a way, just give me a minute or so.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 07:41 PM
boy you really hit the shit out of that one

u2-horn
08-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Rich could just be gunning for a 5-inning no-hitter before being pulled at 120 pitches.

Jive Turkey
08-23-2010, 07:41 PM
we're not exactly tearing the cover off the ball, but that's the way baseball go.

bentleybrau
08-23-2010, 07:43 PM
Hard to argue with 6 up 6 down.

But I'm sure I can find a way, just give me a minute or so.

Doesn't change the fact that his road ERA is 6.40.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 07:46 PM
he has almost 40 pitches thru 2 to retire 6 batters, no hits no walks.

that's extremely difficult to do. He is to be congratulated

spystud13
08-23-2010, 07:48 PM
Even though it didn't work, I really appreciate Blanco's effort on that hit-&-run...


And then he ripped Blackburn's tits!


And then Judy still sucks...

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 07:51 PM
take away just one pitch per batter and he'd be fine. not sure why the constant complaining about his pitch count, its not gonna get better. thats who he is as a pitcher. just be thankful that the pitches are resulting in outs so far this time and have the pen ready to get the last 12 outs.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 08:01 PM
you're not sure why fans complain about someone who hits 100 pitches before he gets to the 6th 80 percent of the time? It taxes the shit out of the bullpen over the span of the year.

He may not be able to change it. If not, he'll be out of baseball soon enough

scomce
08-23-2010, 08:08 PM
i'd go gay for murph. guy is just straight thuggin'.

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:09 PM
yeah, everyone knows his starts will be 5 IP and 115 pitches. the question is how many runs will he give up. he's only got one more start until sept call ups when we can give the pen some relief, assuming he doesn't "get hurt" again.

rich harden is giving me exactly what i expect. cliff lee, however, is not.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 08:12 PM
you can tell TAG is going insane without his blinkie, aka pitch tracker

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 08:12 PM
Rich Harden is less efficient than a BP safety team

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 08:15 PM
yeah, everyone knows his starts will be 5 IP and 115 pitches. the question is how many runs will he give up. he's only got one more start until sept call ups when we can give the pen some relief, assuming he doesn't "get hurt" again.

rich harden is giving me exactly what i expect. cliff lee, however, is not.



gotcha

skipperj
08-23-2010, 08:21 PM
The MLB iPad app is pretty awesome. I had the iPhone only version, so never realized it was available as an iPad app. Downloaded yesterday, and it's greatness. Right now I have the iPad with the app running as well as the radio, and the tv on the game with the sound muted (switching back and forth between MNF and Rangers.) And my laptop on Shaggy.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SLHFa7wbkSU/THMdxI5wuKI/AAAAAAAAIBc/VDa2ZNmus7Q/s800/mlb_ipad.png

texashooch
08-23-2010, 08:23 PM
It's amazing to me how few people there are in the stands. I can't help but conclude that the temps are far too extreme in DFW not to have a park with a roof.

skipperj
08-23-2010, 08:26 PM
It's amazing to me how few people there are in the stands. I can't help but conclude that the temps are far too extreme in DFW not to have a park with a roof.

It's 100 right now in Arlington with a 102 degree heat index. It's fucking hot. The FC Dallas game the other night was pushed back because of the heat, and the players and coach said it was brutal, even though they didn't start until 8 I think.

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:32 PM
additionally, if you think of rich as the 5th starter (which he is despite his salary), getting 5-6 IP and about 3 ER per start is all you should be asking.

scomce
08-23-2010, 08:35 PM
I saw a temperature gauge today in downtown FtW that read 107. Whoa! Chocolate Ichiro just got a hit! They must be playing ice hockey in hell.

MNLonghorn10
08-23-2010, 08:37 PM
It's 100 right now in Arlington with a 102 degree heat index. It's fucking hot. The FC Dallas game the other night was pushed back because of the heat, and the players and coach said it was brutal, even though they didn't start until 8 I think.

pussies

MNLonghorn10
08-23-2010, 08:42 PM
nothings goings minnys way...those 2 dinky hits in the 1st inning and now a double play fucked up. oh well

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:45 PM
thats the way baseball go

MN, i watched a twins/rangers game some years ago where ryan drese gave up 5 runs in the first inning and none of the balls were hit hard. guys like hunter and scott f'ing stahoviak were hitting dribblers that leaked past the infield over and over and over. it was maddening.

scomce
08-23-2010, 08:48 PM
The Rangers are getting what Bill Parcels would call "Jap hits." No offense to anyone.

u2-horn
08-23-2010, 08:49 PM
Even TAG knows that Entourage sucks now.

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:50 PM
The Rangers are getting what Bill Parcels would call "Jap hits." No offense to anyone.

jap plays were what parcells called trick plays. what about the rangers hits are tricky or deceptive?

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:51 PM
that seemed like a quick half inning for harden

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 08:52 PM
oh...they'll jap you

scomce
08-23-2010, 08:52 PM
I thought Jap plays referred to cheap plays--like sliding to take out a double play, infield singles, etc.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 08:53 PM
i wonder why lewin is so concerned about Harden being able to go all 9? That's weird

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:56 PM
I thought Jap plays referred to cheap plays--like sliding to take out a double play, infield singles, etc.

no he means it like sneaky plays, like a sneak attack on a pacific fleet in harbor.

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 08:57 PM
i say let him throw his arm off, but he just came off the DL so that may not be the best thing for him to do.

Jive Turkey
08-23-2010, 08:59 PM
could be a big mistake letting Harden go out for one more inning.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:01 PM
yeah this is huge. heart of the order

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:03 PM
if all of a sudden harden can consistently find the strike zone, and become more efficient, then something is amiss.

scomce
08-23-2010, 09:05 PM
dont look now but harden has a no hitter going

MNLonghorn10
08-23-2010, 09:07 PM
lol.

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 09:07 PM
Some fans are dumb. Harden has no shot of going CG

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:08 PM
where is harden at? is he done for sure after this inning?

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:08 PM
5 walks and 111 pitches

there's your culprit. Not the manager.
Damn good showing though Harden, we needed it.

Ghost of LL
08-23-2010, 09:09 PM
I hate taking him out there.

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:09 PM
In his first start off the disabled list, Rich Harden (http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100823&content_id=13836490&vkey=news_tex&fext=.jsp&c_id=tex) has not allowed a hit through six innings.

home page of texasrangers.com. genius.

u2-horn
08-23-2010, 09:14 PM
LAA down 1 already top 1st. Rays have 2 on and still none out.

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:14 PM
aww, they had a moment

bluto
08-23-2010, 09:17 PM
small crowd = first day of school

u2-horn
08-23-2010, 09:18 PM
aandro said the claw/deer shirts should be going on sale soon.

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:19 PM
26K may get the ODay chant going

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 09:21 PM
Holy crap. Nice play Mitch!

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:21 PM
Good hustle Darren, but you need to get going towards first from contact

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:21 PM
this game is about to go to 11.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:23 PM
nice play by Moreland.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:24 PM
hmmmmmm

scomce
08-23-2010, 09:25 PM
still got that no hit going

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:25 PM
ooooodaaaaaaaaaaaay oday oday odaaaaaaaaaaay, ooooooodaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, ooooooooooooodaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 09:27 PM
This game is quite interesting

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:28 PM
good AB by BSE there

scomce
08-23-2010, 09:28 PM
Mike Young's intro music is perfection. "And you can't...and you won't STOP"

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:31 PM
there is absolutely nothing to see here.

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:31 PM
Suck it douche. Nice blooper.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:32 PM
Mike Young's intro music is perfection. "And you can't...and you won't STOP"

yeah, he's been steady with that for a few years

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:32 PM
best baserunning team in the majors LDO

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:32 PM
Mike Young's intro music is perfection. "And you can't...and you won't STOP"

gagreed

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:35 PM
Elvis is speedy.

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:36 PM
Josh is strong.

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:37 PM
Here we go. Let's do this.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:37 PM
and away we go

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:38 PM
nice to see vlad with his avg up to .300 again. will be huge for sept. if he starts hitting again.

bentleybrau
08-23-2010, 09:38 PM
I've been sitting here, drinking beer and bullshitting with a neighbor. I had no idea why the fans were so upset when Harden came out. I just assumed that they were used to booing him, so they didn't know how to react otherwise.

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:39 PM
here we go. o'day pitching?

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:41 PM
2 more.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:41 PM
interesting

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:43 PM
Time for a double play.

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
Well fuck.

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
fucking no hitters, how do they work?

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
haha Mauer. that dude is a bad ass

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
it would be mauer

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
Now lets win the fucking ballgame

Skipper
08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
Well Fuck. Now lets just win this damn game Feliz

MNLonghorn10
08-23-2010, 09:46 PM
http://bp2.blogger.com/_3TJBkoZeMVU/R7YXzOZ2hTI/AAAAAAAABcs/mlbmcV0SvkU/s400/waiting.jpg

Duck of Death
08-23-2010, 09:46 PM
now wait for the walk and GS

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:46 PM
Fucking Lewin just had to say something about Feliz not doing well with a 4 run lead.

DAGMAR
08-23-2010, 09:48 PM
haha Mauer. that dude is a bad ass

This is a true statement. The Twins have their fair share of badasses

mdmost
08-23-2010, 09:49 PM
Nice win. Sucks it wasn't a no-no but fuck it. Just win.

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 09:49 PM
that'll work

Skipper
08-23-2010, 09:49 PM
I Like Texas! Big win to start this series.

CBT
08-23-2010, 09:50 PM
Ballgame bitches

Vic Mackey
08-23-2010, 09:55 PM
Damnit Feliz!! He has been shaky the last 2 outings. Yesterday giving that HR to the first batter. And a walk, hit and a passed ball this game. He needs to definitely tighten it up for the end stretch.

Good win, though against a solid Twins team. Have a chance to go 9 up.

Now can someone explain how the seedings work. We are never in the race to where I really pay attention.

Now, we will have the 3 division winners and the wild card. Yankees will probably be #1. Rays wild card or vice versa. Now can them 2 play in the opening round since they are in the same division? What is the possibility of us opening up with the Yankees as always?

Soul Glo
08-23-2010, 10:01 PM
yanks and devil rays cannot play in the first round

spystud13
08-23-2010, 10:01 PM
I just want everyone to know that Harden specifically requested Treanor tonight...

Vic Mackey
08-23-2010, 10:05 PM
yanks and devil rays cannot play in the first round

So unless we jump the Twins, we will be stuck with the Yankees?

I guess that's another team to keep up with now. Twins.

Skipper
08-23-2010, 10:21 PM
So unless we jump the Twins, we will be stuck with the Yankees?

I guess that's another team to keep up with now. Twins.

Who knows - Yankees will likely take the East but I bet that race comes down to the end. Rays have been on a roll lately and up 4-0 early on the Angels tonight.

Vic Mackey
08-23-2010, 10:25 PM
So there's really no way to play the Twins opening round since the East is getting the Wild Card with either Rays or Red Sox.

bentleybrau
08-23-2010, 10:38 PM
So there's really no way to play the Twins opening round since the East is getting the Wild Card with either Rays or Red Sox.

Right. We'll be playing someone from the east unless we make up 8 games on the Yankees between now and the end of the season.

riversidehorn
08-23-2010, 11:02 PM
Let's win the division first. Anything after that will be cake as far as I'm concerned.

orange_xpress
08-24-2010, 03:10 AM
Let's win the division first. Anything after that will be cake as far as I'm concerned.

agreed. been a long drought. I will thoroughly enjoy a division title, if it happens. Playoffs is just gravy

Don Johnson
08-24-2010, 07:23 AM
I don't care whether we play the Rays or the Yanks. The reason we need the two spot, rather than the three is homefield.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:24 AM
I don't care whether we play the Rays or the Yanks. The reason we need the two spot, rather than the three is homefield.

it does make a difference. the rangers will have homefield advantage against a wild card team but not the best record in the AL.

Ghost of LL
08-24-2010, 08:52 AM
Why? I'm legitimately curious.
Because he had a no-hitter going in the seventh.

I didn't say that the decision was wrong, I just said that I hate taking him out. The fact that Rich Harden still has serious control issues--issues that he somehow was able to work past last night--necessitated taking him out because of his pitch count. And the fact that it was necessary to take him out with a no-hitter going sucks.

spystud13
08-24-2010, 09:35 AM
When i went to lunch i heard Cowherd on the radio talk about Cliff Lee hating the Texas heat and just basically waiting for the season to end so he can go to the Yankees. He made it sound like this was something Cliff said or hinted at, did anyone hear anything like that?


Lee's response:


In the aftermath of a one-hitter that Cliff Lee watched with his teammates from the dugout, the Rangers ace was answering questions regarding comments by ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd. He called Cowherd's assertion that he "mailed it in" against Baltimore and that "he doesn't care about Texas" a lie.

"It’s a lie,” Lee said. “Write that. Are you writing? Write that it’s a lie. I did not say that and nobody close to me would say that. Either say who the source is or shut up because I am saying it is not true.”

Cowherd said on his show Monday that he he's been told Lee "will not re-sign with Texas" and that he wants to be on the Yankees or be with "an elite team." He added that Lee mailed it in against Baltimore over the weekend and that he's showcasing his talent when he pitches against an elite team, but that he "he doesn't care about Baltimore and he doesn't care about Texas."

"I think that's funny," Lee said. "If it's someone close to me, they're not afraid to put their name behind it, so it's obviously not a reliable source. I didn't tell anybody that and I definitely didn't tell him that. I don't even know who he is."

Lee joked that he was having triplets, in reference to teammate Ian Kinsler wondering if US Weekly was interviewing Lee.

If you ask me, this make no sense at all. No. 1, Lee isn't the type of guy to mail anything in. He's in a contract year and he's pitching for a team trying to make the postseason. That means there are no opportunities to mail anything in. Secondly, Lee has made it clear that he hasn't decided where he will pitch next season. He also said that the heat would not be the determining factor and that he is going to look at the total offers presented to him once the season is over.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/texas-rangers/post/_/id/4852969/cliff-lee-denies-colin-cowherds-claims

skipperj
08-24-2010, 09:37 AM
Cowherd has always been an ass.

dedalus
08-24-2010, 09:42 AM
Fuck Cowherd.

Brad Wesley
08-24-2010, 09:48 AM
fuck cowherd. i give harden some credit for only walking 4 or 5 because minn is very selective and his control obviously still sucks. mauer is by far one of my favorite players to watch. his swing is so, so, so perfect.

did anyone like mauer/gardenhire calll the pitch out and gun down moreland by 10 feet on the hit and run in the 4th/5th? i think he did that at minn earlier in the season as well. amazing.

moreland hosed (http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11288693)

hamilton's sac fly in the 8th was awesome because that ball was right on his fists. 95% of mlb players couldn't get that ball out of the infield but he hit that far enough for elvis to score. he is unreal.

hamilton is pretty awesome (http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11298011)

Vic Mackey
08-24-2010, 10:06 AM
Colin Cowherd is a Jim Rome starter kit douchebag.

Brad Wesley
08-24-2010, 10:23 AM
one other thing...in the 8th after borbon got on did anyone see how clueless he was on the BSE hit and run? first of all it's like he never looked back to find the ball. then he hesitated on 2nd and finally made it to 3rd. seriously. your role on the team is to effectively run the bases and you can't fucking do that?

skipperj
08-24-2010, 10:35 AM
Colin Cowherd is a Jim Rome starter kit douchebag.

Sure, but did you hear what Rome said about Aggy?

Full disclosure: I like Rome. Hate Cowherd.

Beau Vine
08-24-2010, 12:36 PM
The Rangers' financial statements just got leaked:

http://deadspin.com/5619951/mlb-confidential-part-3-texas-rangers

u2-horn
08-24-2010, 01:54 PM
$69,000,000 in broadcast/radio revenue. No idea it would be that high.

CBT
08-24-2010, 01:56 PM
That's the first thing that jumped out to me too. I wonder what it will be this year.

Ranger_Red
08-24-2010, 02:14 PM
Man Hicks was a sleazy ass wipe.

Yuk-Monkey
08-24-2010, 03:09 PM
Man Hicks was is a sleazy ass wipe.

9876

spystud13
08-24-2010, 04:33 PM
Slo-Mo is back in the lineup tonight...


Andrus SS
Young 3B
Hamilton LF
Guerrero DH
Murphy RF
Molina C
Moreland 1B
Blanco 2B
Borbon CF

Lewis P

CBT
08-24-2010, 04:35 PM
Pavano and his stache is going down.

Ghost of LL
08-24-2010, 05:26 PM
I heard Cowherd on the radio today, and I guess I understand his (revised) point that a player may not play as hard against Baltimore when his current team has an eight game lead and he's not particularly trying to impress Rangers management because he'd rather be in New York. I just fundamentally disagree with his underlying premises for a couple of reasons:

1) As Cowherd himself noted, this is Lee's last big contract. None of his deals to date have been particularly lucrative. And since this contract will probably be for 6-8 years, his next contract will be significantly lower (if he doesn't retire altogether at the end). So more than anything, he's looking to make bank. If the Yankees are willing to pay him top dollar, then great. But if the Rangers are willing to pay him substantially more than the Yankees, I don't think for a minute that he wouldn't sign with the Rangers.

2) Cowherd just doesn't understand the Rangers' financial position. It's pretty damned good. Harden's and A-Rod's salaries come off the books after this year. And as the deadspin balance sheet indicates, the Rangers will likely turn a profit this year.

Cowherd makes the mistake of claiming that the fact that the Rangers are "coming out of bankruptcy" and that "Ryan overpaid for the team" affect its ability to pay salaries. He's just wrong. First, bankruptcy allowed the Rangers to settle up with Hicks's creditors, which accounts for the $10M on the balance sheet last year. It's not that Greenberg doesn't have his own creditors (Ryan didn't pay shit--he's there for the name). It's that Hicks was hyper-leveraged. And Greenberg didn't overpay. He paid almost exactly what he had originally bid, with the difference being that money that was originally slated to go to Hicks went instead to the creditors.

The Rangers are in pretty good financial position, and are in even better financial position today because of their success this year.

3) Speaking of that, the Rangers' good financial position this year is due in no small part to Cliff Lee. Attendance has been up markedly since he arrived, and in particular the days that he pitches. His outing against the Yankees provided Fox Sports Southwest with its highest rating ever. Not for a Ranger game--ever. That's money in the organization's pocket--money they didn't have before and money that can be used going forward to pay Lee.

*********

Look--the odds are that the Yankees can and will outspend the Rangers and will sign Lee at the end of the season. But Cowherd's story is flawed in critical ways such that it makes it fundamentally not credible.

CBT
08-24-2010, 05:46 PM
Excellent post LL.

CBT
08-24-2010, 06:43 PM
Spider Arias DFA. Alex Cora brought up.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 06:44 PM
GREAT BREAKING NEWS! Spider is demoted to AAA and Alex Cora is taking his place. This is truly great news. No way Cora is worse.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 06:45 PM
Spider Arias DFA. Alex Cora brought up.

damn it. you scooped me CBT. Were you listening to the Ticket?

CBT
08-24-2010, 06:46 PM
damn it. you scooped me CBT. Were you listening to the Ticket?

Yessir. Your post was much more enthusiastic and informative however.

edit: And enthusiastic as it should be! And technically he wasn't assigned to AAA yet. He has to clear waivers first I think.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 06:48 PM
Yessir. Your post was much more enthusiastic and informative however.

the extra information caused the post to go in seconds later than yours.

spystud13
08-24-2010, 06:59 PM
Well that just breaks my fucking heart!!!!

F18Mustang
08-24-2010, 07:00 PM
Fuck yes

spystud13
08-24-2010, 07:02 PM
Assistant general manager Thad Levine said Cora gives the team a little more experience than Arias does.

Yeah, & now we can actually pinch-hit for Blanco late cause we have someone that will make the routine play!!

spystud13
08-24-2010, 07:17 PM
Another Gold Glove play by Judy...

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 07:20 PM
was he even looking at the ball when he dove for it? looked like he was staring at the ground.

spystud13
08-24-2010, 07:23 PM
That, & his jump was fucking horrid, & his glove was turned the wrong way. Other than all those things, he played the ball well.

Soul Glo
08-24-2010, 07:34 PM
goddamn that blonde was hot that was walking down steps on the 3rd base line

Beau Vine
08-24-2010, 07:42 PM
GREAT BREAKING NEWS! Spider is demoted to AAA and Alex Cora is taking his place. This is truly great news. No way Cora is worse.

That is something that has rarely been said about Alex Cora.

Beau Vine
08-24-2010, 07:43 PM
That, & his jump was fucking horrid, & his glove was turned the wrong way. Other than all those things, he played the ball well.

Yeah, that was pretty horrible.

:whiteflag:

Jive Turkey
08-24-2010, 07:51 PM
i love Elvis so hard.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 07:53 PM
Face being a cooler GIDP

CBT
08-24-2010, 07:53 PM
good baserunning there by BSE.....:eek2:

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 07:57 PM
holy shit, that Army Ranger's parachute got caught on that flagpole. Dude is lucky he did not died.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 07:58 PM
Face having a great game with a GIDP and E5.

F18Mustang
08-24-2010, 08:05 PM
Nothing to see here. Just another Hambone homer. Move along.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:05 PM
dude is stronger than most people i know.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:09 PM
I find it amazing somehow molina has 4 doubles now this yr..

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:10 PM
Moreland has been a good surprise. I likes him.

spystud13
08-24-2010, 08:13 PM
I find it amazing somehow molina has 4 doubles now this yr..

One of them was in his cycle game on an absolutely comical scoring decision, & you just saw his last one...


What a gift of a run that was!

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:13 PM
3 runs for Cobra is like 14 runs for an average pitcher. he must think it is his lucky day.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:17 PM
One of them was in his cycle game on an absolutely comical scoring decision, & you just saw his last one...


What a gift of a run that was!

seeing a Molina double is like seeing a shooting star. You make a wish upon it because it is so rare and you may never see one again. Kinda like finding a four leaf clover. It just really is something to see.

CBT
08-24-2010, 08:17 PM
One of them was in his cycle game on an absolutely comical scoring decision, & you just saw his last one...


What a gift of a run that was!

And it was actually a bit of bad luck that Blanco's ball was a GRD.

spystud13
08-24-2010, 08:22 PM
He caught that one, but his route still left a lot to be desired...

u2-horn
08-24-2010, 08:28 PM
Apparently the Rangers have started doing "blue light specials" at the Ballpark. Tonight it's $1 hot dogs during the 5th inning.

benson32
08-24-2010, 08:29 PM
^ That is awesome.

CBT
08-24-2010, 08:31 PM
good grief lewin

CBT
08-24-2010, 08:32 PM
Apparently the Rangers have started doing "blue light specials" at the Ballpark. Tonight it's $1 hot dogs during the 5th inning.

I can haz $1 shiner?

scomce
08-24-2010, 08:32 PM
Two errors by face.

CBT
08-24-2010, 08:33 PM
good grief lewin face

fifm

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 08:35 PM
you're killing me, smalls face.

CBT
08-24-2010, 08:35 PM
yay for double plays

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:37 PM
Face's Updated Line of Awesome: 1 GIDP and 2 E5's and 0/2

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 08:49 PM
somebody please locate the wheels

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 08:56 PM
Moreland has been a good surprise. I likes him.

^^^^

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 08:57 PM
and lewis won't get the win again

CBT
08-24-2010, 08:58 PM
great job getting out of that jam

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:02 PM
Is there even a chance Bourbon would have made that CF play on Moreland?

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:04 PM
I'll take it. Was that a fair ball? Also, when was the last player that had 2 ground rule doubles in a game?

CBT
08-24-2010, 09:05 PM
I saw chalk.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:07 PM
I see dead people

bentleybrau
08-24-2010, 09:07 PM
lol

Nice hit. Glad we can still edit posts.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:08 PM
Face redeeming himself. I never doubt Face

CBT
08-24-2010, 09:08 PM
face is so clutch :razz:

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 09:09 PM
face choosing to suck early and deliver late instead of the other way around

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 09:10 PM
hamilton sucks

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 09:13 PM
we should trade bengie molina and christian guzman for joe mauer and orlando hudson

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:14 PM
we should trade bengie molina and christian guzman for joe mauer and orlando hudson

why would we give up all that speed?

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 09:17 PM
gotta give up something to get something. minny wouldn't ship mauer for a couple of scrubs

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:28 PM
G.D. Feliz, using all the park on that 1st out.

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:30 PM
the last 2 outs were almost 800' of outs.

CBT
08-24-2010, 09:30 PM
...and 2nd

tjhooker
08-24-2010, 09:33 PM
what is going on with Feliz's hair? and btw win column fuck faces.

CBT
08-24-2010, 09:34 PM
wiiiiiiiiiiicked slidah

CBT
08-24-2010, 09:34 PM
Ballgame bitches

u2-horn
08-24-2010, 10:01 PM
Borbon came so close to misplaying that 2nd out...

Duck of Death
08-24-2010, 10:08 PM
i'd just like to say tonight that its very refreshing to be able to beat division leading teams with regularity, and compete with them (series in tampa not withstanding) on a daily basis. gives me hope that a fairly healthy rangers team can be more than just cannon fodder come october.

Beau Vine
08-24-2010, 10:12 PM
Manager Ron Washington was asked about this 4-game set against the Twins and its importance in trying to catch Minnesota to secure homefield advantage in a possible first-round playoff series.

Washington said the club wasn't thinking much about that, only trying to improve and win games. But he did state a goal for the series.

"The worst I want to do is go 2-2 against them," Washington said. "We need to be at our best."

1234?

CutTheCrackJack
08-24-2010, 10:17 PM
Am i the only one who thinks that benji molina has worked out great for us? He makes great plays defensively and isnt a god awful hitter. I mean he is slow as hell, but its my opinion he has been a great pick up and isnt deserving of most of the ridicule we give him, especially when compared to pick ups like guzman and cantu

u2-horn
08-24-2010, 10:25 PM
Wash on Hamilton:

"When he go we go"

TheYoungHorn
08-24-2010, 11:12 PM
Winning two in a row is fun.

enjay
08-24-2010, 11:26 PM
wasn't it three in a row?

gsoda3
08-24-2010, 11:40 PM
did feliz get hit hard again tonight?over the past 7 games he's been in i feel like hitters have been able to hit him but we've been pretty lucky in that they've hit it to our fielders.

Pimphand
08-24-2010, 11:44 PM
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__62/ept_sports_mlb_experts-165280730-1282655590.jpg

F18Mustang
08-24-2010, 11:46 PM
Fuck Colin Cowherd and as always, Fuck the Yankees.

Vic Mackey
08-25-2010, 01:24 AM
Great game! Will be there tomorrow in the Lexus Club with my cousin enjoying CJ and $1 hot dogs.

And yes, does Feliz have braids now?

And once again, Feliz looks real shaky. Hits the tying run and the first 2 outs were 400 ft fly outs.

orange_xpress
08-25-2010, 03:42 AM
Would be nice to sweep Minny. I would gladly take 3/4 however. Stop winning A's. that is all.

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 05:25 AM
Am i the only one who thinks that benji molina has worked out great for us? He makes great plays defensively and isnt a god awful hitter.

He's got a 581 OPS. What exactly do you consider god awful?

AggieFactFinder
08-25-2010, 08:07 AM
his point of reference (Guzman and Cantu) is a little skewed.

tjhooker
08-25-2010, 09:13 AM
did feliz get hit hard again tonight?over the past 7 games he's been in i feel like hitters have been able to hit him but we've been pretty lucky in that they've hit it to our fielders.

He didn't fool anyone and came up a total of 6 feet short of giving up 2 HR's.

Brad Wesley
08-25-2010, 09:52 AM
the book is out on Feliz. he can't get by just pumping 95+ on the outside corner. he either has to:

1. learn to throw inside (and by inside i mean not hitting guys like thome)
2. consistently throw his slider for strikes and by that i mean not down the shitter

his stuff has got him this far but if he wants to be elite he is going to have to make the adjustments.

The AB when BSE shot the ball past the 1st baseman when Borbon was on first was awesome. When a 22 year old kid can place the ball exactly where he wants to facing a 15-8 pitcher you've got something special. He's been working on that kind of crap all year and he's starting to execute. Having said that, I'm glad he's skilled enough to pull that off but I'd like to see him drive the ball on occassion but he's still the BSE so I'll take it.

spystud13
08-25-2010, 10:45 AM
Am i the only one who thinks that benji molina has worked out great for us? He makes great plays defensively and isnt a god awful hitter. I mean he is slow as hell, but its my opinion he has been a great pick up and isnt deserving of most of the ridicule we give him, especially when compared to pick ups like guzman and cantu

Yes, you are most definitely the only one.


As Beau pointed out, he can't hit AT ALL, & I'm pretty certain the two defensive plays you're referring to are the short-hop pick on Murphy's throw from left with Swisher running & last night's play from Moreland. Fortunately, when rosters expand we can start pinch-hitting for him as early as the 5th or 6th...

34-18 when Treanor starts. I'll take a .654 winning % most days!

DAGMAR
08-25-2010, 10:49 AM
why would we give up all that speed?

I laughed

Fat Joe left Atlantic
08-25-2010, 11:46 AM
Fuck Colin Cowherd and as always, Fuck the Yankees.

Cliff Lee calling Cowherd out and telling the reporters to write down that it was a lie is badass...Cowherd is a douche

dedalus
08-25-2010, 11:51 AM
the book is out on Feliz. he can't get by just pumping 95+ on the outside corner. he either has to:

1. learn to throw inside (and by inside i mean not hitting guys like thome)
2. consistently throw his slider for strikes and by that i mean not down the shitter

his stuff has got him this far but if he wants to be elite he is going to have to make the adjustments.

The AB when BSE shot the ball past the 1st baseman when Borbon was on first was awesome. When a 22 year old kid can place the ball exactly where he wants to facing a 15-8 pitcher you've got something special. He's been working on that kind of crap all year and he's starting to execute. Having said that, I'm glad he's skilled enough to pull that off but I'd like to see him drive the ball on occassion but he's still the BSE so I'll take it.

My thoughts exactly, his slider is sick when he locates it, if he just locates that and moves inside and out with his fb he will be money.

He throws hard, but eventually major league hitters will smash him if he keeps it in the same spot.

Native Horn
08-25-2010, 11:58 AM
In retrospect, probably a good idea that Feliz plunked Thome on the first pitch. Thome may have cranked one far enough to knock the parachute off the flagpole.

Brad Wesley
08-25-2010, 02:12 PM
IMO, Feliz needs to stop being afraid of his changeup. It was much better than his breaking ball in the minors, and it was much better than his breaking ball last season. Remember all the swinging strikes and the sharp downward splitter-like bite he had on it last year?

I know people blasted him over throwing it to Corey Patterson before the ASB, but that was because he rarely throws it now and lost the feel for it.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=18&position=P#winprobability

84% fastballs and 3.6% changeups, after throwing it 10% last season. He needs something to keep guys from sitting on his fastball because that breaking ball is too recognizable out of the hand.

i don't disagree with this which means i agree. i'd comment about his changeup but don't know enough about it for reasons you identified (he never throws it). on his slider, too often it catches a significant portion of the plate and is left high more often than not. it has good enough movement but people are going to start knocking that out of the yard if he continues to hang it. thus, he needs another show pitch to enhance the effectiveness of his fastball.

spystud13
08-25-2010, 02:33 PM
Elvis Andrus credited Gary Pettis with making sure he was alert on the double-play grounder hit by Michael Young in the third. With Julio Borbon at second and Andrus at first, Andrus got in a run down, allowing Borbon to score before the final out of the inning was made.

"Gary reminds us of that," Andrus said. "He told me not to get tagged out by the second baseman. I knew I had to stay out there as long as I could."


I give Pettis a lot of shit, so it's good to know he's at least awake most of the time. I don't believe, however, that ANY major leaguer should have to be told that!


Check that, Vlad most definitely should be reminded constantly...

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 03:18 PM
If you ask my 12-yo daughter what the #1 rule of baserunning is, I guarantee you that she'll say "Don't run into a tag."

spystud13
08-25-2010, 03:23 PM
Teach her not to try to steal 2nd when you're down 2, & she's officially ahead of Vlad...

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 03:33 PM
She's too slow to even think about doing that anyways.

Of course, so is Vlad...

Yuk-Monkey
08-25-2010, 03:34 PM
He needs something to keep guys from sitting on his fastball because that breaking ball is too recognizable out of the hand.

100% agree. Feliz has a different arm angle and release point on his slider. Very recognizable out of the hand. He doesn't trust his grip. I haven't noticed his changeup being as obvious as this. The main reason he's having success is because it's 78mph.

Ghost of LL
08-25-2010, 03:58 PM
I thought the #1 rule of baserunning was not to make the first or third out at third base. Mrs.LL will confirm that that shit makes me throw things.

Native Horn
08-25-2010, 04:04 PM
I thought the #1 rule of baserunning was not to make the first or third out at third base. Mrs.LL will confirm that that shit makes me throw things.

If LL breaks a beer glass in Chicago, will Mrs. LL hear it??

spystud13
08-25-2010, 04:10 PM
If LL breaks a beer glass in Chicago, will Mrs. LL hear it??

No, but he'll post about it & get himself caught!

Brad Wesley
08-25-2010, 04:18 PM
Teach her not to try to steal 2nd when you're down 2, & she's officially ahead of Vlad...

fucking this. that was terrible and i liked how wash's response to that was something like, "i didn't know i was supposed to tell people not to steal 2nd base down 2".

sometimes the fundamental fuck ups aren't always juan's fault. the players have to accept a level of accountability. good that pettis was awake but elvis shouldn't get a shit ton of credit for doing something you learn in high school baseball. he should get credit for being a badass motherfucker who can hit a grounder through the rightside hole with a guy on 1st vs walter johnson but that's another story.

u2-horn
08-25-2010, 04:22 PM
Andrus
Young
Hamilton
Guerrero
Molina
Moreland
Cantu
Blanco
Borbon


aandro says the Rangers plan to start Jorge Cantu at 1st for the next 5 games.

I assume Moreland is in RF

F18Mustang
08-25-2010, 04:23 PM
God damnit where is Murphy?

u2-horn
08-25-2010, 04:28 PM
Hadn't heard anything on Smoak in a while, so I checked his stats at Tacoma--he's only hitting .233 in 105 PAs. 16 walks, 21 Ks, 5 HRs

spystud13
08-25-2010, 04:32 PM
God damnit where is Murphy?

No shit, we're starting 3 lefties in the OF & he isn't one of them?! Boggs must REALLY feel like shit!


And Molina 5 is just completely fucking embarrassing!!!! Regardless of anything Cantu hasn't done, he should be hitting there!

u2-horn
08-25-2010, 04:37 PM
Wow, the Rangers face 5 lefties in a row. (Hence the 5 straight Cantu starts)

spystud13
08-25-2010, 04:37 PM
David Murphy is getting a break after starting the last 19 games. Manager Ron Washington said Murphy would get another day off against a left-hander.

Guess that makes sense... With 5 straight lefties coming up, would have been f'ing great to have Gentry!!

CBT
08-25-2010, 04:41 PM
Not that we needed any extra reasons, but...

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/5296/5-statistical-reasons-to-watch-twinsrangers


5 statistical reasons to watch Twins/Rangers (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/5296/5-statistical-reasons-to-watch-twinsrangers)

u2-horn
08-25-2010, 04:42 PM
I was just looking at that and about to post the nugget that Elvis is tied for 1st in the AL with a .376 avg with RISP.

Ridiculous.

Brad Wesley
08-25-2010, 04:51 PM
my agent buddy has duensing and ceejay with his firm. i asked what it would take for ceejay to resign and he said somewhere around 5 years/$60m. that's some serious coin but can anyone doubt ceejay hasn't shown #2 stuff? he said they won't be asking for cliff lee money but they aren't going to take 3yrs/30m either since he will make about $8m this year in arbitration (FA after 2011 season). other good news is he says ceejay really likes it here and would like to to stay.

CBT
08-25-2010, 04:56 PM
he keeps pitching like this, then that's reasonable. You tell me ceej is asking for 5/60 at the beinning of this year, then I throw my coke on you.

Jive Turkey
08-25-2010, 04:57 PM
color me surprised.


Rightfielder Nelson Cruz and centerfielder Julio Borbon lead the way for a Rangers outfield that leads the American League in the Baseball Info Solutions-generated metric Runs Saved, which measures all aspects of a players defensive contribution.

gsoda3
08-25-2010, 04:58 PM
he keeps pitching like this, then that's reasonable. You tell me ceej is asking for 5/60 at the beinning of this year, then I throw my coke on you.

yeah. at the beg of the year 5/60 was a lot of money for a soon-to-be failed starting pitcher turned longman coming out of the bullpen.

CBT
08-25-2010, 05:00 PM
Beau has exponded on judy's statistical defensive prowess. Then spy tells him to eabod cause borbon doesn't pass the eye test. (note: both have merit imo)

spystud13
08-25-2010, 05:17 PM
If anything, I'm surprised Josh doesn't rate higher in LF than he does... Crawford will always dominate that position, plus Josh has played so much CF lately that his #s might be a little skewed.

Yuk-Monkey
08-25-2010, 05:28 PM
I'd rather use that 5/60 money on Hamilton and Lee if possible, get the 8M arb year, and take my chances in FA.

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 06:00 PM
I thought the #1 rule of baserunning was not to make the first or third out at third base. Mrs.LL will confirm that that shit makes me throw things.

No, that's not the #1 rule of baserunning.

Making the first or third out at third base is the cardinal sin of baserunning.

Big difference.

mynametaken
08-25-2010, 06:05 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed earlier but has anyone found out why Time Warner in Austin insists on putting the Rangers on that infomercial channel? Standard def. in between the Spanish channels is not exactly top placement. Tonight we have a chance to see it on ESPN in HD but I assume it will be blacked out and only available on 77.

Any feedback from TWC on this?

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 06:07 PM
color me surprised.

Seriously?

Haven't I mentioned that Borbon leads all AL CF in UZR this season? :mrgreen:

Cruz is also 1st among AL RF.

Hamilton is also positive in LF, though waaaaaaaaaay behind Carl Crawford.

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 06:10 PM
plus Josh has played so much CF lately that his #s might be a little skewed.

UZR/150 unskews that, and Josh still is ranked the same.

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 06:16 PM
BTW... TOTALLY DOOMT:



http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-best-team-in-baseball/

If we ran a poll, I’d imagine most people would tab the Yankees or the Rays as the best team in baseball. They have identical records at 78-48, and their .619 winning percentages are #1 in the game. However, neither of them lead MLB in WAR – that distinction belongs to the Minnesota Twins.
At +43.2 WAR, the Twins grade out as the top team to date using measures that don’t take contextual performance into account. As you probably know, WAR is mostly built on the foundation of wOBA, UZR, and FIP as the three main variables, representing offense, defense, and pitching, respectively. The Twins grade out well in each area.
Offensively, they have a team wOBA of .342, trailing only Boston and New York in offensive production. That is even more impressive than it sounds because of how pitcher friendly Target Field appears to be. We can’t make a declarative statement about exactly how the park plays with less than a partial season of data to work with, but all of the subjective evidence lends itself to the idea that it favors pitchers. Despite playing in a lower run environment, the Twins have still been able to put up some serious offensive numbers.
Their position players aren’t just lumbering oafs, either. Well, a few of them are, but they’re overshadowed by some high quality defenders, particularly on the infield. The Twins have posted a UZR of +24.3, 8th best in baseball. Their outfield isn’t much to write home about, but the quality around the infield is staggering. The Twins rank 2nd in UZR at first base, second base, and shortstop, and come in all the way down in 4th place at third base, two-tenths of a run away from a tie for second at that position as well.
Their run prevention isn’t just the defense, though – the pitching is legitimately good, too. They rank 6th in baseball in FIP, and all five teams ahead of them are National League clubs who don’t have to contend with a designated hitter. Their biggest strength is their annual refusal to walk anyone, as they have the lowest BB/9 (2.24) of any team in baseball. They are an evenly balanced staff, as well, as the starters FIP (3.83) and relievers FIP (3.80) are nearly identical.
So, if the Twins have performed well in nearly every aspect of the game, why don’t they have the best record in baseball? Well, the one area they haven’t been great at is the main thing that WAR excludes: situational performance.
As a team, the Twins are hitting .279/.342/.439 with no one on base. When they get someone on, then they’re hitting a nearly identical .280/.355/.428, and with runners in scoring position, it’s a similar .283/.365/.407 line. The problem is that most teams perform better with men on base and runners in scoring position than they do in bases empty situations, so the Twins offensive performance in run scoring situations is worse relative to the rest of the league than it is with no one on base.
The good news for Twins fans? That’s not really the kind of thing that is predictive in nature. That the Twins haven’t hit as well in those situations so far says little to nothing about how they’ll do in those situations going forward. If they begin to get the normal bump that teams see with runners on base, their offense could become even more efficient.
The Yankees and Rays are good teams. The Rangers are, too. But don’t sleep on the Twins – you can make a pretty good case that they’re the best team in baseball this year. I certainly wouldn’t want to play them in October.



Hopefully, they'll institute a mercy rule for tonight's game.

AggieFactFinder
08-25-2010, 06:19 PM
wow I didn't realize we'd be looking at anything like that for CJ. That's a lot of money to commit for one very good year. Contrary to my earlier posts, if that's right, there's no way we can fit Lee in unless our budget $100MM or more, maybe quite a bit more. I stand corrected.

What's the consensus on the Rangers' possible interest in Manny?

Beau Vine
08-25-2010, 06:20 PM
And Molina 5 is just completely fucking embarrassing!!!! Regardless of anything Cantu hasn't done, he should be hitting there!

Knife instead of bat tonight?

u2-horn
08-25-2010, 06:25 PM
What's the consensus on the Rangers' possible interest in Manny?

No thanks.