Texas Senior Players

[Texas Guy]

Where do y'all expect Kheeston Randall, Emmanuel Acho, Keenan Robinson, Blake Gideon(lol), Cody Johnson, and David Snow to be drafted?

Is Kenny Vacarro expected to leave for the Draft as well?

[THujone]

Blake Gideon will get drafted and/or signed as a free agent simply because he's a white four year starter. You think I'm wrong. I'm not. It's stupid.

[Amber Lamps]

Why do I keep hearing Vacarro as a potential early entry guy? He's decent but he shouldn't even think about coming out.

[Longhornsftmfw]

Why do I keep hearing Vacarro as a potential early entry guy? He's decent but he shouldn't even think about coming out.

Kids, from what I understand.

[Beast 512]

Vacarro has everything you're looking for at safety in the NFL. He has speed, he's a hitter, he can cover and he has great ball skills.

[rewdog10]

Why do I keep hearing Vacarro as a potential early entry guy? He's decent but he shouldn't even think about coming out.

I've seen him as high as the number 2 safety on some lists. I bet he goes. Btw, I was so drunk watching the A&M game it took me until the 2nd half to figure out who the playmaker in our secondary wearing #2 was.

I yelled "1 more year' at Earl Thomas before the A&M game his sophomore year. He smiled back. Then he went pro.

[Roofle]

Vaccaro has made it very clear that he's heading to the NFL after this season.

[cmontexas]

Robinson and Randall 2nd or 3rd
Acho, Snow late rounds
Johnson, Gideon, Tucker undrafted but signed.
Vaccaro or Okafor could go and be drafted in the first two days I'd guess.

[Echo Base]

I read somewhere that Kheeston is projected in the 3rd, Acho in the 4th or 5th. I am not familiar with the other LBs and DTs entering the draft so I'm not sure how deep either position is. I think if Machete enters the draft he's probably a late 1st or early 2nd rounder after teams watch his film. I dont know how well he'll test at the combine though. And maybe my burnt orange glasses are on too tight

And Gideon will be draft by New England as HCIW for Bill Belichick.

[El Magico]

And Gideon will be draft by New England as HCIW for Bill Belichick.

grad assistant then heir apparent to Akina?

[Echo Base]

grad assistant then heir apparent to Akina?

As long as he's not a GA for a geometry class.

[ArmyPilot]

I know they can project players in the draft but where do coaches on the field end up? Early 1st round I would think

[qwater25]

I hope Kenny doesn't leave. He can definitely make his stock rise if he stay or another year

[cam4mav]

initial guesses

Randall - 3rd very good 3 tech, ala Houston, but not as explosive.

Kenny V - 2nd Straight beast, Plays like LaRon Landry. If the safety class isn't great, he goes in rnd 1. I remember his HS tape and saying he had 'it', just needed to grow into a safety frame. He did, and has been a beast.

Robinson - 4th/5th I can't see him playing SAM or MLB, but if a team uses their WLB in coverage and running sideline to sideline a lot they could use him. ILB in 3-4 similar to what DJ does now for Chiefs is possible but not likely.

Acho - 5th, not sure how well he projects to NFL, reminds me of Muckleroy..... GREAT college backer, not sure if he can truly produce in NFL. worth the chance though IMO

Snow, Johnson, Tucker get FA camp invited.

[BP]

I'd take Cody Johnson as a FB for the Texans.

[Echo Base]

initial guesses

Randall - 3rd very good 3 tech, ala Houston, but not as explosive.

Kenny V - 2nd Straight beast, Plays like LaRon Landry. If the safety class isn't great, he goes in rnd 1. I remember his HS tape and saying he had 'it', just needed to grow into a safety frame. He did, and has been a beast.

Robinson - 4th/5th I can't see him playing SAM or MLB, but if a team uses their WLB in coverage and running sideline to sideline a lot they could use him. ILB in 3-4 similar to what DJ does now for Chiefs is possible but not likely.

Acho - 5th, not sure how well he projects to NFL, reminds me of Muckleroy..... GREAT college backer, not sure if he can truly produce in NFL. worth the chance though IMO

Snow, Johnson, Tucker get FA camp invited.

I agree with all this. I think Kenny V has better coverage skills than Landry did coming out of college. As for Acho and Robinson, I think GMs will question if they are physical enough to play in the league.

[6th Street]

Vaccarro could play his way into the top-half of the 1st round if he stays another year. Right now, I'd project him around the 3rd round.

[thepop]

Vaccaro has made it very clear that he's heading to the NFL after this season.

He's actually implied the opposite. Though I don't really believe him or any college player when they say they're staying.

[BP]

I don't know what position Manny Acho would play for the Cardinals(I think that they play a 3-4), but I hope that Cardinals take him to play beside big brother Sam.

[Mother Mopar]

Vaccaro has made it very clear that he's heading to the NFL after this season.

Per his Twitter

Haha why doesn't everybody shutup about me leaving and worry about winning these next too games. I'm committed to this team

[housious]

Vaccaro is gone unfortunately. But the secondary is one position I'm confident that young guys can fill adequately with Akina here.

Byndom and Diggs will be dominant next year.

[Ramonce Taylor's Weed]

Alex isn't leaving unless he gets a high 1st rd grade. He said that specifically, to a friend.

[BigOrange]

Vaccaro is gone unfortunately. But the secondary is one position I'm confident that young guys can fill adequately with Akina here.

Byndom and Diggs will be dominant next year.

this. i'd love to have kenny v. back next year, but if he leaves we have guys like Y2K and phillips just waiting for their shot. we'll be fine.

[Longhorns 4 Life]

Per his Twitter

That sounds like he's leaving. If he was coming back you would think he would say I'm gona be back for next season not shutup about me leaving.

[Texas Guy]

Alex isn't leaving unless he gets a high 1st rd grade. He said that specifically, to a friend.

yeah, didn't think he'd leave if he didn't get a good grade.

and @THujones, I know Blake is gonna be drafted/will be signed as UDFA, just don't think he'll have a good career in the NFL.

[Texas Guy]

From WalterFootball.com. Kenny Vacarro, Alex Okafor, and Justin Tucker weren't listed.

-FB-
Cody Johnson, FB, Texas
Height: 5-11. Weight: 250.
Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2011): 5-7.
10/20/11: Johnson has done a quality job of lead blocking this season. He has 17 rushes for 46 yards and one reception for four yards.

8/22/11: Cody Johnson enters the season as the top fullback in the nation. He ran for 592 yards and six touchdowns last season, while averaging 4.4 yards per carry. A concern for NFL talent evaluators is Johnson's miniscule production in the passing game. He had just four receptions for 49 yards last season. A year earlier, Johnson ran for 335 yards with an average of 3.9 yards per carry with 12 touchdowns. That year, he had seven catches for 42 yards. Johnson's receiving ability will get tested at the combine and in pre-draft workouts, but he looks like he can contribute as lead blocker and short-yardage running back in the NFL.


-C-
13. David Snow, C/G, Texas
Height: 6-4. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 5.22.
Projected Round (2012): 6-FA.
10/28/11: Snow played well in some of the early games but did not do well against Oklahoma.

8/20/11: David Snow locked down the starting center position in 2010. He previously was a starter at right guard for five games in 2009. Snow is a good fundamental blocker. He needs a good season to get a draftable grade instead of being a priority, undrafted free agent.


-DT/DE-
#8 for DT, 7 for DE. Kheeston Randall, DE/DT, Texas
Height: 6-5. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 4.96.
Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
11/11/11: Randall has had a disappointing season. He pushes the pocket more than his numbers indicate, but he still hasn't had as big an impact as needed. Thus far in 2011, Randall has 19 tackles with zero sacks and .5 tackles for a loss. His stock has gone down significantly.

8/21/11: Kheeston Randall will be a starter for his third season in 2011. he is strong at the point of attack and is a good run defender. Last year, Randall had 39 tackles, one sack, 13 tackles for a loss, three passes broken up and two blocked kicks. He is similar to Liuget and Worthy in that Randall effects the game more than his stats indicate. As a sophomore, he had 4.5 tackles for a loss and three sacks. Randall could be a 4-3 tackle and potentially a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4.


-OLB-
10. Emmanuel Acho, OLB, Texas
Height: 6-2. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.62.
Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
11/18/11: Acho has been solid this season and leads Texas in tackles with 72. He also has 11 tackles for a loss, two sacks, four passes broken up and a forced fumble. Acho has displayed some instincts and is physical.

8/23/11: Emmanuel Acho was second to Keenan Robinson in tackles for the Longhorns defense last year. He had 79 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks and an interception, but played through a nagging knee injury throughout the season. As a sophomore, Acho recorded 45 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss and two sacks. He posesses a quality skill set with the ability to produce more and help his draft stock in 2011.

11. Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
Height: 6-3. Weight: 239.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
11/18/11: Robinson has not been standing out as much as he did last year. This season, Robinson has 54 tackles with two tackles for a loss, two forced fumbles, zero sacks and zero interceptions.

8/23/11: Keenan Robinson is a fast, physical and underrated player. Last year, Robinson led Texas in tackles with 105. He also had 7.5 tackles for a loss, two sacks and one forced fumble. Robinson (6-3, 235) also is a quality player on special teams. He was an All-Big XII honorable mention for the second straight season. Robinson notched 63 tackles and four tackles for a loss as a sophomore. Robinson has good size, and if he has a big senior season, could push for consideration in the first round.


-S-
17. Blake Gideon, FS, Texas
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round (2012): 4-5.
11/28/11: Gideon has 52 tackles with four passes defended, one sack and one interception. He has consistently been around the ball for the Longhorns.

8/26/11: Blake Gideon is entering his fourth season as a starter for Texas. The experienced performer was an All-Big XII honorable mention in 2010. Last season, he made 63 tackles with two interceptions, one sack, one forced fumble and three passes defensed. As a sophomore, Gideon had a big season with six interceptions, 49 tackles and three passes broken up. As a pro, he should probably add a little bulk to be a bigger strong safety option.

[Atticus]

Ill be surprised if Gideon gets a combine invite.

top 3 guys will be Robinson, Vaccaro, and Randall, with Acho not far behind. Randall started this season as a fringe 1st rounder, but has steadily declined over the season. For Cody, its really more about the team valuing him enough in their system to use a pick on him, he doesn't seem to be worth a pick imo. He will get multiple workouts though.

Robinson is an early 3rd day guy atm, but workouts could push him into the 2nd day range.
Vaccaro is a weird one, he is like a smaller, less athletic Kenny Phillips, but it's a pretty weak year for safeties, so he is a solid day 2 unless he really does well at the combine and workouts.
Randall was covered pretty well earlier in the thread, scouts love his size though, he could also be more consistent.

[housious]

Ill be surprised if Gideon gets a combine invite.

top 3 guys will be Robinson, Vaccaro, and Randall, with Acho not far behind. Randall started this season as a fringe 1st rounder, but has steadily declined over the season. For Cody, its really more about the team valuing him enough in their system to use a pick on him, he doesn't seem to be worth a pick imo. He will get multiple workouts though.

Robinson is an early 3rd day guy atm, but workouts could push him into the 2nd day range.
Vaccaro is a weird one, he is like a smaller, less athletic Kenny Phillips, but it's a pretty weak year for safeties, so he is a solid day 2 unless he really does well at the combine and workouts.
Randall was covered pretty well earlier in the thread, scouts love his size though, he could also be more consistent.

Randall started the season as a fringe first rounder? Who the $#@! said that?

[KS Horn]

As long as he's not a GA for a geometry class.

This deserves more love.

[HenryJames]

Ill be surprised if Gideon gets a combine invite.

He'd give everyone else directions and then arrive late.

[Atticus]

Randall started the season as a fringe first rounder? Who the $#@! said that?

Based on his performance last year, his measurables, and projecting this year's success he was a late first/early second day selection. It's hard to find reputable websites that don't update their projections though.

[BurntOrange&White]

Here is a tweet from Kenny

@ItzKeNnyVKenny Dwayne Vaccaro


Haha why doesn't everybody shutup about me leaving and worry about winning these next too games. I'm committed to this team.




26 Nov via Echofon

[Dixie Normous]

Vacarro has been talking about getting payed all season long on his twitter. He also assures us that his crew will also be getting some of this pay.

[housious]

Vacarro has been talking about getting payed all season long on his twitter. He also assures us that his crew will also be getting some of this pay.

Well thank god. Wouldn't want to see his crew come away empty-handed

[BurntOrange&White]

Vacarro has been talking about getting payed all season long on his twitter. He also assures us that his crew will also be getting some of this pay.

I think that ties into the "DB....MONEY MAKER!" Chant the DB's do.

[Theo Huxtable]

Considering the fact that none of our guys are getting drafted very early, I feel good about next year.

[Ramonce Taylor's Weed]

Randall started the season as a fringe first rounder? Who the $#@! said that?

I saw a mock draft that had him going 32nd to Packers this preseason. But now I don't even see him in 2nd.

[Mother Mopar]

I think that ties into the "DB....MONEY MAKER!" Chant the DB's do.

True statement, if you watch those guys after big plays, picks, PBU's etc...you will see those guy "make it rain/count their money" by putting their hands in the air.

[BP]

Blake Gideon will get drafted and/or signed as a free agent

Rooting for ya Blake!

[Truck's Son]

Hopefully Captain America gets a look from someone. Dude could definitely add value on special teams and as a third down back.

[Rocko20]

Gideon is ranked 13 out of 121 FS, seriously?
Vacarro is 17 out of 93 SS.
Acho is 3 out of 104 ILB
Randall is 6 out of 182 DT
Robinson is 9 out of 219 OLB
Johnson is 3 out of 66 FB
Snow is 12 out of 87 C
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...=2012&genpos=C

Obviously it doesn't tell you where they'll go but it gives a rough estimate of where they are among their peers in the 2012 class.

[Texas Guy]

Robinson 4th round to Redskins
Acho 6th round to Browns
Randall 7th round to Dolphins

Johnson, Gideon, Snow and Fozzy goes undrafted. None of them have been signed yet.

[thepop]

Tucker to Baltimore

[thepop]

Johnson to Tampa Bay. Great pickup

[cam4mav]

I was right-ish on Robinson and Acho, $#@!ing whiffed completely on Randall. why did he drop so much?

[Texas Guy]

I was right-ish on Robinson and Acho, $#@!ing whiffed completely on Randall. why did he drop so much?

Guess he didn't have a good senior year. I think a lot of that had to do with the defensive changes this year though. I think he'll be a good backup DE in Miami if he gets a chance.

[PoofyBevo]

Wow, what a forgettable draft for Texas players. Only 3 guys drafted, and none went in the first 3 rounds. Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma State all fared better.

In addition to the Longhorns already mentioned, no takers for Tray Allen. I know he had a foot injury and such, but I remember being pretty psyched when he originally committed to Texas. Hopefully our coaches realize they're not just trying to earn a paycheck for themselves, but for their own players (in the NFL) also.

[Swanson]

Wow, what a forgettable draft for Texas players. Only 3 guys drafted, and none went in the first 3 rounds. Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma State all fared better.

In addition to the Longhorns already mentioned, no takers for Tray Allen. I know he had a foot injury and such, but I remember being pretty psyched when he originally committed to Texas. Hopefully our coaches realize they're not just trying to earn a paycheck for themselves, but for their own players (in the NFL) also.

As did SMU. 4 players drafted. Boggles my mind.

[Huckleberry]

Shouldn't be that surprising for a group that went 13-12 in their final two seasons.

[USAOROTC]