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    An acquittal is not required. A rejection/decline of charges or no indictment or dismissal of filed charges is good enough.
    Gotcha, and that makes sense. I honestly didn't even think of that scenario, because . . . like HELL the DA is gonna drop any of those charges. They'll pursue them to the bitter end.

    My respect for the DA's office under Lehmberg is going downhill, and fast. Not saying that Ronnie Earl was the end-all, be-all, but I think he would be LESS likely to pursue bogus charges filed solely to intimidate a person into dropping their complaint.

    Oh, and I've seen that done before -- to a member of my own family. This person had the everloving crap beaten out of them by an E. Texas sheriff's deputy on a traffic stop. I'm talking a clean-cut professional on his way back from a business trip . . . who made the poor choice of having a messican last name. Got the crap beaten out of him, the contents of his briefcase dumped in a ditch, and hauled into jail. Where they filed a DWI charge against him, based on a breathalyzer result . . . which was interesting in that he hadn't had a drop to drink and never even blew into a breathalyzer. The FBI came calling, hearing about the situation (and it wasn't the first in this county). He wanted to pursue that complaint with the feds . . . but the local DA was hard-charging on the DWI charge, and wasn't gonna let it go, fabricated evidence and false testimony be damned. So, he dropped the complaint in exchange for the DA dropping the utterly fictitious DWI charge, because a clean record and a clear name are invaluable to a professional.

    That's how Johnny Law does his bidness, ya see. You'd be wise to play ball, ya hear? I can charge you with anything, and get a conviction for anything. Officer Jones will testify that you were weaving all over the road . . . and darn it all, his dash cam was on the fritz that day. And he'll testify that you blew the breathalyzer and it was .09. Officer Jones has been a loyal officer protecting this community for 17 years. I WILL get that conviction, boy. If you keep pushing this, Officer Jones will also swear out a complaint that you punched him, and I'll charge you with assaulting an officer. You wanna keep going? I can do this all day, boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post
    Gotcha, and that makes sense. I honestly didn't even think of that scenario, because . . . like HELL the DA is gonna drop any of those charges. They'll pursue them to the bitter end.

    My respect for the DA's office under Lehmberg is going downhill, and fast. Not saying that Ronnie Earl was the end-all, be-all, but I think he would be LESS likely to pursue bogus charges filed solely to intimidate a person into dropping their complaint.

    Oh, and I've seen that done before -- to a member of my own family. This person had the everloving crap beaten out of them by an E. Texas sheriff's deputy on a traffic stop. I'm talking a clean-cut professional on his way back from a business trip . . . who made the poor choice of having a messican last name. Got the crap beaten out of him, the contents of his briefcase dumped in a ditch, and hauled into jail. Where they filed a DWI charge against him, based on a breathalyzer result . . . which was interesting in that he hadn't had a drop to drink and never even blew into a breathalyzer. The FBI came calling, hearing about the situation (and it wasn't the first in this county). He wanted to pursue that complaint with the feds . . . but the local DA was hard-charging on the DWI charge, and wasn't gonna let it go, fabricated evidence and false testimony be damned. So, he dropped the complaint in exchange for the DA dropping the utterly fictitious DWI charge, because a clean record and a clear name are invaluable to a professional.

    That's how Johnny Law does his bidness, ya see. You'd be wise to play ball, ya hear? I can charge you with anything, and get a conviction for anything. Officer Jones will testify that you were weaving all over the road . . . and darn it all, his dash cam was on the fritz that day. And he'll testify that you blew the breathalyzer and it was .09. Officer Jones has been a loyal officer protecting this community for 17 years. I WILL get that conviction, boy. If you keep pushing this, Officer Jones will also swear out a complaint that you punched him, and I'll charge you with assaulting an officer. You wanna keep going? I can do this all day, boy.
    This is why we must DEMAND a law that makes officer testimony inadmissible unless backed up by video or audio evidence.

    And why in the meantime, we need to arm ourselves with recording technology and a plan. A professional brought to his knees. People think it only happens to others, but it can happen to anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingInAction View Post
    I love it when a thread gets all lawyery. Feel like I'm getting a free education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAPA View Post
    This is why we must DEMAND a law that makes officer testimony inadmissible unless backed up by video or audio evidence.
    Could not agree more. I simply do not take their word as absolute truth as many citizens foolishly do. In fact, I distrust the word of most law enforcers on principle alone. I've been excluded from a couple of juries because I mistakenly let that fact out during the Voir Dire process. We may not agree on everything, VAPA, but I'm definitely on your side of the fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post
    Gotcha, and that makes sense. I honestly didn't even think of that scenario, because . . . like HELL the DA is gonna drop any of those charges. They'll pursue them to the bitter end.

    My respect for the DA's office under Lehmberg is going downhill, and fast. Not saying that Ronnie Earl was the end-all, be-all, but I think he would be LESS likely to pursue bogus charges filed solely to intimidate a person into dropping their complaint.

    Oh, and I've seen that done before -- to a member of my own family. This person had the everloving crap beaten out of them by an E. Texas sheriff's deputy on a traffic stop. I'm talking a clean-cut professional on his way back from a business trip . . . who made the poor choice of having a messican last name. Got the crap beaten out of him, the contents of his briefcase dumped in a ditch, and hauled into jail. Where they filed a DWI charge against him, based on a breathalyzer result . . . which was interesting in that he hadn't had a drop to drink and never even blew into a breathalyzer. The FBI came calling, hearing about the situation (and it wasn't the first in this county). He wanted to pursue that complaint with the feds . . . but the local DA was hard-charging on the DWI charge, and wasn't gonna let it go, fabricated evidence and false testimony be damned. So, he dropped the complaint in exchange for the DA dropping the utterly fictitious DWI charge, because a clean record and a clear name are invaluable to a professional.

    That's how Johnny Law does his bidness, ya see. You'd be wise to play ball, ya hear? I can charge you with anything, and get a conviction for anything. Officer Jones will testify that you were weaving all over the road . . . and darn it all, his dash cam was on the fritz that day. And he'll testify that you blew the breathalyzer and it was .09. Officer Jones has been a loyal officer protecting this community for 17 years. I WILL get that conviction, boy. If you keep pushing this, Officer Jones will also swear out a complaint that you punched him, and I'll charge you with assaulting an officer. You wanna keep going? I can do this all day, boy.
    Sounds like Sheriff Bubba Rost of Lee County.

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    (d) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the interruption, disruption, impediment, or interference alleged consisted of speech only.
    BOOM! That was the sound of two of Austin's finests heads exploding

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasEd View Post
    BOOM! That was the sound of two of Austin's finests heads exploding
    But the cop claims she employed more than speech:

    the report states Pizana tried to block him with her arm and then hit the officer's arm several times.
    However, in view of the video evidence we've all seen of Buelher's beatdown, it doesn't appear the cop's description is anywhere near the truth. If the jury is allowed to see the videos, then a good lawyer could make short work of his report claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armybrat View Post
    But the cop claims she employed more than speech:



    However, in view of the video evidence we've all seen of Buelher's beatdown, it doesn't appear the cop's description is anywhere near the truth. If the jury is allowed to see the videos, then a good lawyer could make short work of his report claim.
    There was only contact after he was actively violating her civil rights by taking away her phone and otherwise attempting to abrogate her speech, which he had no colorable authority to do, especially in light of the cited statute. She had a right to speak, and he had no right to interfere. When he illegally attempted to interfere, she resisted his illegal act.

    So $#@! him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post
    There was only contact after he was actively violating her civil rights by taking away her phone and otherwise attempting to abrogate her speech, which he had no colorable authority to do, especially in light of the cited statute. She had a right to speak, and he had no right to interfere. When he illegally attempted to interfere, she resisted his illegal act.

    So $#@! him.
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    http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Witne...137995763.html

    Sorry, I was not allowed to take video, so I can't help.
    $#@!tards.

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    Here is a precedent from Denver in 2010.

    I suspect that Acevedo will find the officers' actions justified and the city will have to pay. In a perfect world the two cops would be charged with 2 counts of aggravated assault and multiple counts of civil rights violations and spend 2-3 years in prison.




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_...hford_Incident
    Mark Ashford Incident

    On August 18, 2010, the Denver Post reported about another alleged beating by the Denver Police. On March 16, 2010, Mark Ashford was walking his two dogs near the streets of 20th and Little Raven when he saw a police officer pull over a driver who had run a stop sign. Ashford claiming that he saw the man stop at the stop sign approached the police car to volunteer information and to appear in court about the incident. Ashford claims that the officer "didn't like it at all" and asked Ashford his ID, which he provided. Afterwords, another Denver Police officer arrived on scene and Ashford, who claims he was nervous, began taking photos of the two officers on his cell phone. In the HALO surveillance video released by the city & county of Denver, a Denver Police officer appears to hand Ashford back his ID and a piece of paper. Afterwards, Ashford pulls out his cell phone to photograph the two officers. The two officers approach Ashford and one of the officers grabs Ashford's hand in an attempt to get Ashford's cell phone. Ashford grabs one officer by the throat. The other officer also tries to help restrain Ashford. In the ensuing struggle Ashford tries to spin away from the officers and is again thrust into the guardrail by the officers. Ashford's attorney, William Hart, claims that his client was arrested on suspicion of interference and resistance. After the incident, Ashford was taken to St. Andrew's Hospital where he was treated for a cut on his eye and a concussion. All charges have been dropped by the Denver City Attorney's office. The officers were cleared following an investigation by Denver Police and Independent Monitor, Richard Rsenthal.Rosenthal found the officers actions were justified. .[8] The city awarded Ashford $35,000, citing that they believed the officers used excessive force and criticized Rosenthal for ruling their actions justified. One officer resigned after the incident and one remains on the job, but has a history of misconduct, including an incident where he randomly pulled a woman off a bus and falsely charged her for leaving her disabled daughter on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RagMan View Post
    http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Witne...137995763.html

    Sorry, I was not allowed to take video, so I can't help.
    $#@!tards.
    Al Bastidas with Please Be Kind to Cyclists says his organization tries to spread, which awareness about safety on the part of both drivers and cyclists, wants to see more people on bicycles taking more responsibility for their own safety.

    “Be aware. Be patient, and slow down. Slow down. If we both slow down, not only drivers but cyclists, because if we both slow down and look around, look around,” said Bastidas.
    Was Al drunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post
    There was only contact after he was actively violating her civil rights by taking away her phone and otherwise attempting to abrogate her speech, which he had no colorable authority to do, especially in light of the cited statute. She had a right to speak, and he had no right to interfere. When he illegally attempted to interfere, she resisted his illegal act.

    So $#@! him.
    Very good,, but please don't double bill me.

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    So, when the video and eyewitness testimony make it clear that the arresting officer's report is utterly false . . . and it's my understanding that the officer's report is transmitted to a superior who has at least some role in the "investigation" . . . WHY are they not charged with the following offense?

    § 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT
    EMPLOYEE. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to
    deceive, he knowingly makes a false statement that is material to a
    criminal investigation and makes the statement to:
    (1) a peace officer conducting the investigation; or
    (2) any employee of a law enforcement agency that is
    authorized by the agency to conduct the investigation and that the
    actor knows is conducting the investigation.
    (b) In this section, "law enforcement agency" has the
    meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
    (c) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.
    I mean, if Joe Citizen comes in and fills out a report that "Antonio Buehler spit on me," and video later comes out to show that is utter bull$#@!, Joe can be charged with filing a false report.

    But when Officer Lyingsackof$#@! comes in and fills out the same report, and video later shows that it is utter bull$#@! . . . he gets a freaking medal and a toast at the Annual Police Officer's Self-Congratulatory Circle Jerk and Pancake Breakfast.

    Charge criminals with crimes. I don't care what the criminal happens to be wearing at the time, whether it be a hoodie, overalls, or a badge. Charge them ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post
    So, when the video and eyewitness testimony make it clear that the arresting officer's report is utterly false . . . and it's my understanding that the officer's report is transmitted to a superior who has at least some role in the "investigation" . . . WHY are they not charged with the following offense?



    I mean, if Joe Citizen comes in and fills out a report that "Antonio Buehler spit on me," and video later comes out to show that is utter bull$#@!, Joe can be charged with filing a false report.

    But when Officer Lyingsackof$#@! comes in and fills out the same report, and video later shows that it is utter bull$#@! . . . he gets a freaking medal and a toast at the Annual Police Officer's Self-Congratulatory Circle Jerk and Pancake Breakfast.

    Charge criminals with crimes. I don't care what the criminal happens to be wearing at the time, whether it be a hoodie, overalls, or a badge. Charge them ALL.
    Well, yeah.

    But you know Lehmberg ain't gonna do diddly (and I say that even though she is a Fightin' Taylor Duck schoolmate of Mrs.Brat's).

    Just like the Texas Bar Ass. isn't ever going to do squat about Ken Anderson.

    The thin blue line & pinstripe lines run parallel....so to speak.

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    But you know Lehmberg ain't gonna do diddly (and I say that even though she is a Fightin' Taylor Duck schoolmate of Mrs.Brat's).

    Just like the Texas Bar Ass. isn't ever going to do squat about Ken Anderson.

    The thin blue line & pinstripe lines run parallel....so to speak.
    And as a member of said pinstripe line (granted, I practice in a wholly different set of courts, but we're all members of the same Bar), that pisses me off to no end. I fully support the Bar doing everything possible to move on the Anderson investigation. I've signed every petition that I can when there is judicial misconduct and the like.

    But really, what we need to do as a Bar is remind those folks in our prosecutors' offices around the state that they work for ALL of the people, and that INCLUDES THE ACCUSED. If they participate in railroading a person, or helping the police use criminal charges as leverage to get a legitimate complaint against the police dropped, then they are aiding and abetting a crime even more directly than if they botched the prosecution of a guilty person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post

    . . . who made the poor choice of having a messican last name.
    Thats a pretty serious crime in all truthfulness.

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    Perhaps this deserves its own thread, but if you folks in Austin are serious about this $#@!, then you need to take action. And the most effective action is pretty easy to take.

    In every DWI trial up here in Dallas, there is a MADD representative in the gallery sitting there to intimidate the DA. If VAPA wants to change the culture in Austin, there needs to be a VAPA representative in every courtroom watching for instances of police misconduct. And where there is police misconduct, publicize the name of the cop and the name of the ADA who won't do anything to prosecute it. They'll get the message pretty damn quick that they're being watched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of LL View Post
    Perhaps this deserves its own thread, but if you folks in Austin are serious about this $#@!, then you need to take action. And the most effective action is pretty easy to take.

    In every DWI trial up here in Dallas, there is a MADD representative in the gallery sitting there to intimidate the DA. If VAPA wants to change the culture in Austin, there needs to be a VAPA representative in every courtroom watching for instances of police misconduct. And where there is police misconduct, publicize the name of the cop and the name of the ADA who won't do anything to prosecute it. They'll get the message pretty damn quick that they're being watched.
    And VAPA will get the billy club shampoo at his next traffic stop. (provided they can break into KIT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Shank View Post
    No need to worry, fellas. APD has a policy against dishonesty. They just fired a cop for not being honest. From today's AAS:

    Officer fired over non-arrest
    Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo fired an officer Monday amid allegations of dishonesty, insubordination and neglecting his duty after a July incident in which the officer was told to arrest a man accused of drunken driving but did not do so, according to a disciplinary memo.
    Scott Garner was fired Monday, according to the memo.
    Acevedo said in the memo that Garner had been ordered to go arrest a man brought to a hospital by emergency workers after a traffic incident involving allegations of drunken driving or public intoxication. Garner disobeyed the order and drove the man home instead, the memo said.
    During disciplinary proceedings last week, Garner "provided statements inconsistent with testimony and evidence," the memo said. Acevedo concluded Garner was not truthful during the investigation or the hearing, the memo said. Police policy says that dishonesty mandates firing from the department, the memo said.
    Police union officials said Garner intends to appeal his firing.

    Linky-poo: http://www.statesman.com/news/local/..._ece_frontpage
    Brisket, I posted this a couple weeks back. Again, no need to worry. Acevedo fires officers who lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Shank View Post
    Brisket, I posted this a couple weeks back. Again, no need to worry. Acevedo fires officers who lie.
    Yeah, the signs at the next Beuhler rally need to have quotes in it from that memo.

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    Yeah, the signs at the next Beuhler rally need to have quotes in it from that memo.
    An airplane banner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost of LL View Post
    Perhaps this deserves its own thread, but if you folks in Austin are serious about this $#@!, then you need to take action. And the most effective action is pretty easy to take.

    In every DWI trial up here in Dallas, there is a MADD representative in the gallery sitting there to intimidate the DA. If VAPA wants to change the culture in Austin, there needs to be a VAPA representative in every courtroom watching for instances of police misconduct. And where there is police misconduct, publicize the name of the cop and the name of the ADA who won't do anything to prosecute it. They'll get the message pretty damn quick that they're being watched.
    Interesting and I damn sure appreciate the input. I hope to get much more of it, it's going to take a great many brains and a good ole fashioned American community coming together (like we haven't seen in a long time with all the divisions the media pours down our throats) to fix this issue. Please keep em coming.

    Quote Originally Posted by pescado_rojo View Post
    And VAPA will get the billy club shampoo at his next traffic stop. (provided they can break into KIT)
    I pity the criminal who tries to use force against me while I'm in my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 5 View Post
    This. I'll have him on the stand here in a few weeks. Gonna have a little fun.
    And how did this turn out?

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    Funny how when the video supports their side they will show it to reporters, but when it does not, all they can say is that there "are inconsistencies in his statement".

    http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...h-2183449.html

    [QUOTE]A police video shows that Austin officers responding to a call about a possible kidnapping did not draw Tasers or roughly handcuff a man as he had claimed in a blog that received national and international attention this week.

    "He lied," Police Chief Art Acevedo said Friday of Scott Henson, who wrote about the incident in his "Grits For Breakfast" blog. Acevedo showed the video to an American-Statesman reporter Friday.[QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by TubaForce View Post
    Funny how when the video supports their side they will show it to reporters, but when it does not, all they can say is that there "are inconsistencies in his statement".

    http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...h-2183449.html

    Acevedo showed the video to an American-Statesman reporter Friday.
    OMG STOP THE PRESSES! WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE INVESTIGATION ACEVEDO!! allcaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey4 View Post
    OMG STOP THE PRESSES! WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE INVESTIGATION ACEVEDO!! allcaps
    My favorite part: In an email Friday, Henson asked Acevedo not to release the video, saying there should be an exception because a child was involved.

    Acevedo replied, writing: "Scott, unfortunately we can't put the toothpaste back into the tube. You called us out on our response and I am in a position that I must show those interested that our officers not only reacted properly, but in an outstanding manner."

    So obviously by withholding the video of the New Year's Eve incident he acknowledges that by showing the video it will show his officers DID NOT react properly.

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    yeah, Over/under on # of days to release the video:

    If the officers f'd up: 180
    If the citizen lied : 14



    eta: If they killed someone - the video equipment malfunctions.
    Last edited by TexasEd; 02-20-2012 at 12:11 PM.

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    APD must be reviewing the $#@! out of that dashcam footage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heel06 View Post
    APD must be editing the $#@! out of that dashcam footage.
    Fixed! :)

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    No $#@!.

    They want to exonerate an officer and the tape hits the street in 2 days
    My timeline above is proving itself out.


    If they $#@!ed up it may never come out. We need someone to do a FOIA request. Why isn't the news on top of this?

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    then there's this

    http://gizmodo.com/5901775/this-poli...shboard-camera

    policeman-recorded-himself-masturbating-on-his-dashboard-camera
    Last edited by UTinBigD; 04-13-2012 at 01:37 PM.

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    obligatory


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    Quote Originally Posted by J.R. View Post
    And how did this turn out?
    I forgot about this thread until it was necro-bumped.

    Wonderfully, thanks for asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasEd View Post
    No $#@!.

    They want to exonerate an officer and the tape hits the street in 2 days
    My timeline above is proving itself out.


    If they $#@!ed up it may never come out. We need someone to do a FOIA request. Why isn't the news on top of this?
    I was asking the same thing yesterday on this thread (post #222):

    http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/show...-Walmart/page5

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    So, APD lying again huh???

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    Update?

    Anyone? Buehler?
    Last edited by TexasEd; 04-25-2012 at 10:57 AM.

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    SIAP:

    Antonio Buehler runs into Art on Sixth Street and videos it:

    http://digitaltexan.net/2012/austin-.../#.T5gfMdm2zTo

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    wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll? csb time please

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    That's the first I've seen of that. Buehler is awesome... "we look forward to you firing those two guys because they're criminals."

    GOLD.

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    Crime Lab Supervisor tries to follow the law and is wrongfully terminated by APD. Apparently, if crime techs at APD try to follow the law about blood alcohol counts, they are run out of town by Art.

    http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...o-2335319.html

    A scientist who was fired from the Austin Police Department's crime lab last year has filed a lawsuit against the City of Austin and Police Chief Art Acevedo, saying police and city officials spread false information about her that damaged her reputation.

    The lawsuit was filed Friday in Travis County District Court by Debra Stephens, who worked for the department's crime lab for nine years until she was let go last year.

    Stephens later filed a complaint against the lab alleging improper shortcuts during drug evidence testing.

    In April, that complaint sparked an investigation into the lab by the Texas Forensic Science Commission.

    In her lawsuit, Stephens alleges that the letter Acevedo wrote firing her contains "statements known and proven to be false" that have affected her ability to find work and make money. These statements, she said, were distributed by the department and the city, which she said makes them culpable for libel.

    City spokesman Reyne Telles said city officials "look forward to reviewing the allegations."

    "We are confident the outcome will reflect the outstanding work done by our crime lab every day," Telles said.

    Stephens said she was fired from the Austin lab for pointing out policy violations there.

    "It's important to me to restore my good name," said Stephens, who now works for a private lab in San Antonio.

    She is seeking a maximum of $15 million in damages, according to the lawsuit.

    Assistant Police Chief Sean Mannix said department officials have not been served with the lawsuit. He declined to comment on the suit's allegations because it is a pending court case.

    In her suit, Stephens said that department officials brought her up for a "pre-termination hearing" in November 2010, about a year after she sent a corrected blood alcohol level test to the lawyer of a man charged with intoxication assault. The suit said she discovered the original report was incorrect in August 2009 and informed the lawyer soon after.

    The suit said that state law required her to report the corrected amount, but department officials told her that was a violation of lab policy — though she said they could not produce written evidence of this policy.

    The lawsuit said Stephens' supervisor also unsuccessfully attempted to have her certification as a technical supervisor revoked with the Texas Department of Public Safety, which accredits Texas crime labs. Had she lost the certification, Stephens said, she would be unable to work as a breath alcohol expert.

    Stephens was fired in April 2011.

    Her personnel file indicates that she was fired for insubordination and other reasons.

    The following month, the lawsuit said, she filed a request for a wrongful termination hearing, and in June an administrative judge ruled that Acevedo's allegations in the termination letter were not true, the lawsuit said.

    "Ms. Stephens was an exemplary employee who received several service awards and was given favorable performance reviews for all the nine years she was employed at APD," the lawsuit said.

    Stephens made one of two complaints against the Austin lab that led the Texas Forensic Science Commission to open an investigation last month.

    The second complaint was filed by another facility, Integrated Forensic Laboratories in Euless, which questioned testing results or procedures used on evidence in three cases in which it followed up on work by the Austin lab.

    A three-member subcommittee of the Forensic Science Commission will lead the investigation, holding meetings that will be open to the public.

    The subcommittee will report its findings to the full commission, which will conclude the case with a written determination.

    Mannix said that the commission's investigation into the Austin lab is still in its earliest stages.

    "We look forward to another set of eyes looking at our lab again," he said. "We believe the investigation will have a positive outcome for the lab."

    Contact Patrick George at 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange&White View Post
    Crime Lab Supervisor tries to follow the law and is wrongfully terminated by APD. Apparently, if crime techs at APD try to follow the law about blood alcohol counts, they are run out of town by Art.

    http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...o-2335319.html
    It's not uncommon for APD samples to come back about 0.03 lower when sent to an outside lab for re-testing.

    Smoke. Fire. Etc.

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    Nothing about these APD criminals surprises me any more.

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    Art, why haven't you been hit by a CapMetro train yet, you piece of $#@!?

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    Independent auditing of procedures and random verification of results should be standard operating procedure in order for a forensics lab to maintain accreditation/certification.

    Auditing procedures should have cleared up any misconception about what to do in the case of following up with revised results; the reason stated for her termination.

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    Maybe this will start the ball rolling Art out of town.

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    I think that sunuvabitch has carte blanche until heads on the City Council start rolling. It's amazing to me an activist city like Austin, TX would suffer such unjust and oppressive $#@!s for so long. What's the malfunction here? Old West Austin money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austintx71 View Post
    Maybe this will start the ball rolling Art out of town.

    hahahahahaha....Good one!

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    How on earth did I miss this thread. CSB Alert:

    Do you remember a few years ago, the story about the K9 officer that left his gun on the slide at the Circle C park?

    Wife of Jiggy-Z was the one that found it, so let me backtrack and refresh:

    Gun was locked and loaded and no safety (or some special police safety). Was found at the bottom of the slide. Call was made and four, that's four patrol cars showed up and gave Mrs. Jiggy-Z the 3rd degree about where she got the gun-the nerve.

    Mrs. Jiggy-Z let the officers have it, on account of what might have happened.

    Story comes out that the officer "sat down" on the slide and let his K9s run after their shift. Gun "slipped out" while officer was drinking/fapping... er watching his dogs and does not notice his primary firearm is missing when he finishes.

    In the next few days we get all kinds of excuses, like defective holsters and what a tough job it is keeping track of a firearm, how tired cops are. Eventually a blue ribbon spin panel blames the holster-which had never had any problems before and APD kept.

    Accevedo even calls my house to do damage control and do the old "now, now" routine and let us know he was on the case. Mrs Jiggy-Z let him have it too and the cheif could do nothing but be obtuse and condescending. Mrs Jiggy-Z wanted to pursue the matter, but was advised against it(by friends) due to department revenge factors.

    What got me was the condescending tone used to her, as if she was some dumb broad that could not possible understand these matters and the total spin put on this. Not once did the department ever say the officer $#@!ed up (while fapping/drinking). Plus there were a whole lot of unanswered questions like: When did the officer take the dogs back (post fap) and why did he not notice his firearm was missing when he went home and disrobed for sleep after his shift(initially the 4 patrol units could not find him as he was passed out/ hung over ...er tired.

    This indecent pales in comparison to the OP and probably reads pretty lame as well, but at least gives some insight into Acevedo and his little fraternity..

    On the other other hand, I have just gotten warnings on my last three traffic stops. I disputed the alleged charges right off the bat..that is my new strategy.

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    How $#@!ing long is this internal review going to take? Are they trying to demonstrate/publicize/prove their incompetence when it is already widely known?

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