e: Here it is: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5992848
e: Here it is: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5992848
Last edited by MadBurgerMaker; 01-16-2012 at 12:18 AM.
My point is, this terrible stretch should not drag Houston fans' expectations downward. If anything it should make them more hungry to see a winner and demand more.
Not impressed with any of the "first round talent" receivers this year. If Broyles can recover from his injury well, we can steal him in the 4th round. We need to draft OL or DL in the first 2 rounds. I know we won't be drafting a CB in the first round again so soon, and the safeties this year aren't worth the high picks either.
ohh and I fully expect to lose greg knapp (qb coach) he wants a OC job bad. did a great job with yates this year in very limited time
FA we need to sign : foster, myers, dreessen
allan, barber and demps are also UFA. losing all 3 would be a huge hit to the secondary. i dont see D Ward coming back, he wants playing time. they'll have to work their magic again and find a good young rb to fill that #3 spot.
Last edited by tx 3 putt; 01-16-2012 at 01:41 AM.
That said, the only true position of need I see on this team is receiver, because we need to get Jacoby Jones out of town. He makes some plays, and looks like he has potential but is very inconsistent and puts the team in some very bad spots. At this point, he's five years in I think and it's clear that the potential that we see will not be met. Time to move on.
if mario is traded away we'll need some depth to there also
OL depth will also be on the 'to-do' list
We definitely had one of the best OL's this year, but a good portion of it was due to scheme. The personnel can improve, and if nothing else, we can build depth. We may go FA again for the secondary this year, but Kubiak & Co. like KJ for some reason. He was a victim of great WR play yesterday though.
I feel like Broyles can come in and contribute right away in some capacity, but I wouldn't reach past the 4th round to get him. Can't wait to see this combine.
Is it now time to cut the cord on Kareem? The "first-round sacred cow" thing should be a non-issue after 2 horrible seasons. I get it. He was a bust, and we whiffed on the pick. Do we need to keep suffering for the pick?
Last edited by Ignatius; 01-16-2012 at 11:23 AM.
I know I'm in the minority here but I'm not sure the Texans should re-sign Arian at all costs. He is obviously a great runner but I am very concerned about his tendency to fumble the ball, and in the Kubiak offense it seems that any number of players could be very effective (hello, Ben Tate). Of course they should try to re-sign him but I fear he will ask for Chris Johnson money and I just don't think it would be worth it, when you could have two Ben Tates for the price of on Arian Foster, especially since injuries happen.
And while I agree the Texans shouldn't break the bank to do it, I think re-signing Mario should be a top priority for the Texans, even more so than Arian. As good as the defense was without Mario, it was even better with him IMO. He was terrorizing offenses before he got hurt, basically unblockable by a running back, tight end, or one o-lineman.
Opinions on Leinart v Yates for backup?
The dude tied for the most 100 yard rushing games this season, in 12.5 games. Missing a legit receiving threat for 9 of those games and playing with backup QBs. Arian, Andre and Schuab played 1 quarter together this season. He also had just under 2K from scrimmage in 12.5 games and set the record for rushing yards in a players first two playoff games.
Tate is a good player and would be more than serviceable in our system but he is not Arian. He can't and doesn't make something out of nothing, he nothing close the receiver Arian is, nor does he match Arian in the protection game.
Arian knows that he landed in the perfect scheme for him and I think that will influence his decision, but the dude is going to get paid and he deserves it.
Arian has skill that extends well beyond his ball carrying capability, in that he regularly contributes in dump pass/checkdown situations out of the backfield (hello awesome one hand grab yesterday). Like Ray Rice, that depth of skill is rare and quite handy in our system. I'd very much like to see him continue to wear a Texans jersey. And I think he would say the same.
And I have zero issues with paying a portion of JJ's salary to ask him to play for one of our divisional rivals. It would be like buying yards/points.
Foster showed up in the biggest games in Texans history. If they sign him he'll be the face of the franchise for the next 5-6 years, and he gives Houston the star power that can help keep current OL and signing more in the future.
Mario Williams has HOF talent with questionable physical and mental toughness. He's not a team leader. Defense didn't miss a beat when he got injured. Let him go.
Cowboys fan here, but Texans supporter also. Really wanted to see the Texans win yesterday, can't believe they got withinn TD of being in AFC champ game...without Schaub and Mario and without Andre for majority of the season. Healthy roster next year, same defense (maybe better), and some playoff experience they should be a huge threat next year.
I hate to say it, but when I saw Jacoby fumble the punt and Baltimore score....I predicted they Texans would lose by a TD. As many have said, need #2 WR. So many out there (laurent robinson), not sure what the loyalty issue is to Jacoby but it needs to quit if they want to succeed.
Everybody that thinks they should be on the team next year, please step forward. Hold on there, Kareem and Jacoby.
I'm still not the biggest Schaub fan. I think you go for a QB if there is a good avialable in the 2nd or 3rd round.
WR, OL depth, a #2 CB, and DT are other needs. Not sure if the Texans could work out a trade for another #1 pick or not by tradin Mario, but there will be some pretty good WR free agents out there this year.
After seeing the way Foster performed yesterday. And how he was effected by the loss no way do you let him go. He brings the type of leadership and desire this team needs.
I live in Houston. Texans & the off-season squawking in January. Feels... quite... familiar.
I would say we don't need to draft a WR in the first round ever, but that's a strong position in the draft this year and at our low pick one of the studs might actually be available and worth taking. Although I do think we have more pressing needs than WR.
I'd think OLB/CB in the first round, and if Wade sticks around, I'll be happy with any defensive guy we take because that dude can pick em. I'd like to retain Mario either way.
And fate works the impossible... I'll come full circle and feel bad for Jones. I watched us lose on TV amid games of washers and bags and beer pong on a crisp afternoon, and somewhere, this dude's entire world was crashing down on him. Making $3M+ a year opens you to harsh criticism.
Last edited by Mikeinthebox; 01-16-2012 at 04:25 PM.
But Jacoby, like everyone who has ever played or even studied football, has known since the 4th grade that unless you are absolutely sure you can catch a punt in the air, you get the $#@! away from it. You sure as hell don't try to field it on the bounce with defenders bearing down on you. There is no excuse or reason for why he did it... unless he was thinking it might be a way to get on SportsCenter, in which case he got his wish.
I have no sympathy for a jerkoff who is either brain dead, or trying to get on TV, or both. $#@! him and his $#@!ing touchdown dance.
the reality is that if everyone is back healthy and ready to go next season, we have no true holes. yes, we need an upgrade over the likes of jacoby and kareem, but those who have followed the texans before this year really know what holes look like.
if we can franchise mario and trade him, that would be the best option. if we cannot, and we can only afford to sign foster or mario, i think our front office knows what to do, and that's lock up foster. for once, i actually trust the texans going into the draft, and if kendall wright is on the board, i think that's the move. after that, you prob get an o-lineman, and defensive depth.
Jacoby has had 5 years to develop some consistency and as a player, and has failed to do so. Cut him. Same for Leinart, Yates has lots of upside and is cheaper.
Kubiak is defending that blockhead Jones, btw. Doesn't look like he's going anywhere.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...jones-defense/Fan ire has been most vociferously directed at receiver-return man Jacoby Jones, whose botched punt early in the game gave Baltimore the ball at the Texans’ two, from where they quickly scored their first touchdown. Kubiak came to Jones’ defense.
“He made a mistake,” Kubiak said. “But he’s also made big plays for us through the course of the year. You’re not going to give up on a guy because he makes a mistake in a game. Yeah, it was a big mistake. There’s no getting around that. A lot of guys make mistakes in games and come back and make big plays for you. I try to look at the big picture on things. I know how far Jacoby has come as a person and a player.
as for durability, he played 16 games two straight seasons before this one, and this injury seemed sorta fluky, but who can tell anymore. i will say it makes me feel pretty comfortable knowing next season if something happened to schaub that we would have yates ready to come in.
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