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    Well, that was a $#@! punch of a game.

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    So much for signing Oswalt.

    Let's take it out on Verlander tonight. That guy ain't $#@!.

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    Nick Punto is $#@!ing horrible. If the Pedroia injury is serious (awaiting MRI results), this team is $#@!ed.

    Yes, water is wet.

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    Your boy Middlebrooks needs to take a crash course @ 2B...

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    That was some interesting baserunning by ol' Papi there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spystud13 View Post
    That was some interesting baserunning by ol' Papi there.
    you must not watch a lot of red sox games. that's papi's baserunning pretty much every time he "has a chance." that dude stretches an extra base opportunity into an out every time he can!

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    Right when I was going to write something about Bard's changeup looking good, Fielder hits one halfway to the Mass Pike.

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    Kurkjian:

    "Dustin Pedroia might have to go on the DL with a thumb injury, a Red Sox source said. They are waiting on MRI results."

    If he goes on the DL, the likely call up from Pawtucket would be Iglesias, according to NESN.
    Last edited by dbecks; 05-29-2012 at 08:52 PM.

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    For the first time in 2012, the Boston Red Sox are above .500

    I know that's a sad statistic, but they're moving in the right direction (and just beat Verlander - who now has a career .500 record vs the Sox).

    Lester & Beckett on the mound for the next two. Let's finish these guys off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbecks View Post
    Nick Punto is $#@!ing horrible.
    No $#@!??

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    Not good...

    Pedroia has torn adductor muscle in thumb

    Dustin Pedroia was diagnosed with a torn adductor muscle in his right thumb following an MRI on Tuesday, and the Red Sox are hoping a brace can keep the second baseman from a potential month-long trip to the disabled list, where the team already has too many of its big-name players.

    "It's just a matter of me being able to swing with a brace on it or something," Pedroia said after sitting out a 6-3 Sox win over the Tigers at Fenway Park. "So I'm going to go get something made, see how it feels, and if I can't do it, then I think it's three to four weeks. Hopefully it's not that."

    While third baseman Kevin Youkilis dealt with an injury to the same area that required season-ending surgery in August 2010, general manager Ben Cherington said surgery is not being considered for Pedroia, because he does not have any tendon tearing as Youkilis did. There's a chance, too, that Pedroia could continue to play while healing, but the Sox aren't sure yet.

    "All my ligaments and tendons, that's all fine," said Pedroia. "It's just a muscle -- your only muscle in your thumb. I've just got to wait for it to calm down a little and see if I can hit with a splint on it or a brace or something and go from there."

    Cherington said the injury can be treated conservatively.

    "It's just a matter of making sure that before he goes back out there that we're protecting him as best we can, where he's not putting himself at any undue risk where he's in a position to be the player he's always is," said Cherington. "[We are] working on that, working on ways to protect him. ... He felt a lot better this evening than he did yesterday."

    The plan, at least for Wednesday when the Sox play the Tigers again at Fenway Park, is to keep Pedroia on the active roster and play with a short bench while team and player continue to deliberate what's best. Cherington acknowledged that playing short was less than ideal, but with a player of Pedroia's stature, it's a necessary and temporary compromise.

    The injury became public after Pedroia was pulled in the sixth inning Monday -- an inning after he made a diving play -- but the injury stems from early May.

    "I did it three weeks ago and yesterday as well," Pedroia said of hurting himself. "Right now, I'm just trying to get all the treatment I can and hopefully it's not that long."

    The details of a potential protective brace should become clearer on Wednesday in consultation with team orthopedist Peter Asnis. The idea is to create something "that would probably be a combination of padding and a way to stabilize the thumb so that at impact, there's less trauma in the area," Cherington said.

    No further medical tests are necessary. Pedroia's MRI was reviewed by the club's medical staff and by Arizona-based orthopedic surgeon Donald Sheridan, who performed surgery on Pedroia's left hand in 2007. Cherington said Pedroia was not bothered by this injury when throwing, despite the tear's location in his throwing hand.

    With a player of Pedroia's caliber -- he's hitting .295 with five home runs and 21 RBIs -- the Sox want to do everything they can to keep him on the field, but Cherington repeated several times the importance of not putting Pedroia in position to worsen the injury.

    "There's some risk. Just like with any injury, there's a risk that it could worsen," Cherington said. "And that's our job and Dustin's job to make sure that we're minimizing that risk as much as possible before he gets back out there."

    The Red Sox have 12 players on the disabled list, including Andrew Bailey, Carl Crawford and Jacoby Ellsbury.
    Bobby V is optimistic, but take that with a grain of salt.

    Bobby V: Pedroia will be back sooner than expected

    Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine, in his weekly appearance on WEEI's The Big Show, said that Dustin Pedroia is showing early signs of healing from his torn adductor muscle in his right thumb, giving the team confidence that the second baseman might not need to be placed on the disabled list.

    "We just had a meeting before I came here, [GM Ben Cherington] and I and Dustin. He’s on the mend. He heals pretty quickly. He’s a determined guy," said Valentine. "I don't think he's going to have to swing for a day or two, but I think he’ll be back a lot sooner than projected."

    Valentine said that Mike Aviles will bat second on Wednesday night, and that the team expects Nick Punto to be able to fill in while Pedroia is down.

    "I don’t think there will be anything in stone," Valentine said of who will handle second base. "We’ll have to be flexible and adapt to playing without Dustin. ... We got [Punto] to be the backup in the middle infield. He had a nice little game last night and I think he can perform. No one can perform at Dustin’s level. We don’t want to say he’ll fill the void. But I think with him performing and the other guys filling in, we'll be fine."

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    Dear Terry Francona, please stop emailing photos of yourself half-naked in a towel to my girlfriend



    A reader, whom we'll call Rob, emailed us Monday night with the photo you see above. The photo came with this message:

    Looks like Terry francona is not too smart. Sending this picture to my 27 year old girlfriend isn't a smart move. Big job like his, he seems to trust a lot of people. Not sure how this picture would turn any girl on but good luck to him and his 53 year body.

    Francona didn't need the luck, as Rob would soon learn.

    Rob said the photo had been emailed to his girlfriend Friday night, with no additional message. Rob sent us a screen grab. The sender's name was Terry Francona, and we confirmed through a baseball source that the sender's address does, in fact, belong to Terry Francona, the former Red Sox manager. (It's an AOL account, naturally.) Francona is 53 years old, and he's separated from his wife. He is certainly free to chase women (or share his vacation photos with them). Rob would just prefer that Francona chase (or share his vacation photos with) someone other than Rob's girlfriend.

    Rob knew that his girlfriend, who lives in Tuscon, Ariz., had recently met Francona, a former University of Arizona ballplayer. After he sent us the towel photo, Rob wrote back to say he discovered that she had also exchanged a number of text messages with Francona: "I just saw phone records of them going back and forth. No content."

    He knew the number was Francona's because he called it; he said the voice on the outgoing message was unmistakably Francona's. We tried the number, and it certainly did sound like Francona.

    Rob wrote that he had "no idea" what this was adding up to. "Lots of texts and that pic. Can only mean he's trying to get with her."

    He sent us an open letter to Terry Francona, which read as follows:

    Hey Terry,

    I was wondering why you would be flirting with my girlfriend, who is over 20 years younger than you, by sending pictures of yourself half-naked in a towel? Isn't one of your own children the same age as my girlfriend?

    Next time you decide to do this, make sure the girl doesnt have a boyfriend. You would think that you would be more careful since you work for ESPN. I hope more girls come out saying you sent them the same stuff. You could be the next Tiger Woods. Scumbag.

    As of Tuesday evening, we were all set to publish a post this morning about Francona emailing photos of himself half-naked in a towel to somebody's girlfriend. But then Rob sent us another email, and our heart ached for him a little.

    So it looks like i found a picture she sent him first at 607pm on the 25th which is why he sent her a pic.

    This is that pic (sent to a Gmail address for a "tj francona"):


    "I'm so pissed," Rob said. He has yet to confront his girlfriend about any of this. Moral: Never underestimate the 53-year-old body, especially when it's attached to a successful rich guy.

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    Moar

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    submart's name is rob?

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    Eff yeah.

    Hopefully pissed-off, chip-on-his-shoulder, "no one pays attention when I pitch well" Beckett shows up tomorrow, and the Sox curb stomp the Tigers.

    Don't look now, but the Sox are only 2.5 games out of first...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbecks View Post
    Don't look now, but the Sox are only 2.5 games out of first...
    and still in last place! yanks and blue jays have been winning right along w/ us. i keep seeing us win and keep looking for us to get out of the cellar but those $#@!ers aren't helping us one bit.

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    What the $#@! is wrong with Lester this season? Looks like my fantasy "ace set" of Halladay, Lester, and Wainwright was shortsighted.

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    I really want to do dirty things to Jenny Dell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodowned View Post
    What the $#@! is wrong with Lester this season? Looks like my fantasy "ace set" of Halladay, Lester, and Wainwright was shortsighted.
    No idea. It ain't the lack of Varitek, though. (Salty caught plenty of his decent games last year.)

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    Youk news.

    Report: Sox definitely intend to trade Youkilis

    11:34 AM: We heard some rumblings a week or two ago that the Red Sox could conceivably trade Kevin Youkilis. But this sounds like more than mere consideration:

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    Red Sox are telling teams they definitely intend to trade Youkilis.

    Youkilis is hitting .250/.318/.406 in limited play this year. Though he is hitting well — .313./.371/.531 with two homers — since coming off the DL.

    When we heard those rumblings, the word was that he needed a couple of weeks of good play to be truly marketable. Well, he’s had them. So I guess now he’ll be marketed.
    Cherington: Youkilis trade report inaccurate

    General manager Ben Cherington denied a report that the Red Sox were telling teams they "definitely intend to trade" Kevin Youkilis.

    "That’s inaccurate," Cherington e-mailed WEEI.com Friday afternoon. "Some teams have checked in on him. We haven’t told any teams we plan to trade him. It’s our job to listen if teams have interest. He’s swinging the bat well since coming off the DL and [is] a big part of our team and lineup."

    CBS Sports senior baseball writer Danny Knobler had tweeted Friday morning: Red Sox are telling teams they definitely intend to trade Youkilis.

    Youkilis is hitting .250 with a .318 on-base percentage and .406 slugging percentage on the season. He has been solid in nine games since returning from the disabled list, hitting .313/.371/.531 with two home runs.

    Youkilis, 33, is in his ninth season in Boston and has career averages of .288/.389/.490, with 133 home runs and 562 RBIs. Despite making the 2011 All-Star team, he had a career-worst .258 batting average and was slowed by injuries last season.

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    Tied for fourth!

    Buchholz's last two starts:

    7.0 IP, 2 ER, 8 H, 1 BB, 6 K
    8.0 IP, 2 ER, 6 H, 2 BB, 7 K

    With Bard looking decent (although he's gone more than 6 innings only twice all year), this could be interesting when - ahem - Dice-K (who has been solid in AAA) gets called up...

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    Fun Fact: Among Sox starters, Felix Doubront has the lowest ERA (3.75) and the most strikeouts (66).


    Another fun fact: Nick Punto hit a home run today.
    Last edited by dbecks; 06-02-2012 at 04:17 PM.

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    Pedroia takes batting practice

    Boston Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia took batting practice while wearing a specially designed brace before Saturday's game against the Toronto Blue Jays. It was the first time he's swung a bat since tearing a muscle in his right thumb five days ago.

    Pedroia took about 25 swings over four sessions. When he was done, the 2008 AL MVP pulled off his gloves and spoke briefly with Red Sox trainer Rick Jameyson.

    The brace is designed to lessen the strain on Pedroia's thumb, but when he'll return to action remains unknown.

    "(Pedroia) is feeling a little better. It's just to make sure that his body is in tune," Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine said Saturday. "We don't think he's going to be swinging really hard. Plus, we'll see how the brace fits."

    Pedroia will miss his fifth consecutive game Saturday since suffering the torn adductor muscle in the thumb of his throwing hand, but has yet to be put on the disabled list. Valentine admitted "it's a little tough" to be playing with a short bench but said that the team was still waiting to make a decision.

    "We're going to get how he gets through the weekend and see where he is progress-wise," Valentine said.

    Pedroia is hitting .295 with five homers and 21 RBIs.

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    2 games out, $#@!ers

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    And only 0.5 behind the MFYs...

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    it'a about time they start clicking! I was about to cancel MLB.com! haha well no not really but Bard is stinking up the place today

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbecks View Post
    With Bard looking decent
    This one's on me.

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    Worst Pitch (Location)

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    87.0 inches from center of zone

    I realize that, when I put that "Location" information up there, it's context-free. You see a number, but you might not understand what that number means. In the last edition of The Week In Worst, the worst pitch was 61.4 inches away from the center of the zone. The second-worst pitch from the last two weeks was 74.2 inches away from the center of the zone, and the third-worst pitch was 61.4 inches away from the center of the zone. Daniel Bard's pitch was more than a foot worse than the second-worst pitch of the last two weeks. 87 inches is 7.25 feet. Shaquille O'Neal was officially listed at 7.08 feet. Daniel Bard missed the center of the strike zone by more than a full Shaquille O'Neal. In a two-strike count, he wasn't looking to hit the center of the strike zone, but he wasn't looking to miss it by Shaq and an inch.
    This pitch, as a screenshot:

    The pitch was 5.5 feet outside, making it the widest pitch of the last two weeks. It was on track to be 2.2 feet below the ground at the front of the plate, making it the fourth-lowest pitch of the last two weeks. The three lower pitches were all within screaming distance of the plate, whereas Bard's breaking ball would've needed to send smoke signals to communicate.
    This pitch, as another screenshot:

    Six pitches in the at-bat, more or less in a group. One pitch in the at-bat that just booked it away from all the others. Daniel Bard threw the first-ever baseball with social anxiety.
    I think what I love most about the clip is how the catcher snares the ball and casually returns it to the umpire. Most catchers aren't going to pick a pitch this wild. Boston's catcher did it and made it look natural. After his effort on Sunday, Daniel Bard has issued 37 walks in 55 innings, with an additional eight hit batters. I don't know that there's been a pitcher more wild than Daniel Bard this season. Daniel Bard has been so wild this season that Boston's catcher recognized the pitch above and was like, "oh, here's one of these again."
    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/6/4/306...worst-baseball

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    This makes me nervous.

    Pedroia ready to play Tuesday

    As the Boston Red Sox prepared to leave Toronto after taking two-of-three from the Blue Jays over the weekend, Dustin Pedroia had one thing on his mind.

    “Play Tuesday,” Pedroia told the team’s website Sunday afternoon.

    Out for the last week with a torn abductor muscle in his right thumb, Pedroia was able to avoid a trip to the disabled list and is primed for a return. He resumed batting practice on Saturday, with the help of a special brace over his hand, and felt no discomfort or swelling on Sunday.

    Now the Red Sox second baseman hopes to return Tuesday when they open a three-game series with the Baltimore Orioles in Boston.

    When asked if the team had said he was good to go, Pedroia gave his usual Pedroia-like response.

    “They don’t tell me anything, man. I play Tuesday,” he told the Boston Herald.

    Pedroia was nearly called upon over the weekend in Toronto, after short stop Mike Aviles was hit in the hand by a grounder during Boston’s 7-4 win on Saturday. Manager Bobby Valentine said he was ready to put Pedroia in the game, as the team had no other infielders available on the bench.

    But Aviles was able to remain in the game, and Pedroia — glove in hand — stayed on the bench.

    “The good thing is he feels good,” Valentine said of Pedroia following Saturday’s game. “When Mike got hit with that ball, he was ready to go out in the field. I wasn’t really hesitant. So we’ll see.”

    Pedroia is hitting .295 with five home runs and 21 RBI this season. He is second on the team in both hits (59) and runs scored (30).

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    Why the Red Sox are still hunting for starting pitching

    It's still almost two months away, but it's about that time we start thinking about the non-waiver trade deadline. The Red Sox have, after all.

    According to a major league source, as we sit here right now, the Sox' priority when it comes to bolstering the big league roster in the days leading up to the deadline is finding starting pitching depth.

    Outfield? Infield? Catching? Bullpen?

    While improvements always can be made, it would seem internal solutions offer enough viable options that the Red Sox wouldn't have to get caught up in the annual rite of passage that is overpaying in July.

    And while there might seemingly be a surplus of starting pitching (see Daisuke Matsuzaka and Aaron Cook waiting in the wings), it's not enough to let the Sox' guard down. Ben Cherington knows that. And if he didn't, Sunday offered a not-so-subtle reminder.

    Daniel Bard could keep trying to figure things out in the rotation for now, or he might ultimately be part of the bullpen bolstering (although finding an odd man out in that group right now is no easy task). But the reality is that in this race, there simply isn't room for many more of those 1 2/3-inning, five-run, six-walk outings.

    Five American League East teams can stake legitimate claims to a chance at winning this division. So, what will be the ultimate separator? Starting pitching. It is a reality that already has surfaced in the season's first two months, and it remains the reason the Red Sox will continue to identify backup plans heading toward the summer months.

    Remember last June? When Clay Buchholz left the mound on June 16 in St. Petersburg, Fla., he had just allowed one run over five innings. It completed a nine-start stretch in which the righty went 5-0 (with the team going 8-1) with a 2.59 ERA and .204 batting average against. He had, it was reported, some back stiffness.

    At that moment the Red Sox were 41-27, in first place and carrying a starters' ERA of 3.91.

    But the armor already had been cracked. Matsuzaka had just been lost to Tommy John surgery, Tim Wakefield was two days away from finishing off his career with a 5.53 ERA over his final 17 appearances, and, starting June 17, John Lackey would begin a stretch that included a 5.94 ERA over 19 starts and .313 batting average against while starting to realize his elbow might not be manageable.

    The rest of the way, the Sox starters went a combined 32-33 with a 4.94 ERA (fourth-worst in the majors). And we know where that ultimately led them.

    A month later the Red Sox found themselves scrambling to find a No. 3 starter, somebody who could potentially pitch a playoff game. When May ended, the conversation was more centered around who was going to be the odd man out in the postseason's four-man rotation.

    This is why they're taking their time with Matsuzaka. It is why Cook's rehabilitation clock is being executed a snail's pace. It was why they were hoping a veteran starter like Ross Ohlendorf -- he of the 4.61 ERA in 10 starts with Triple-A Pawtucket -- wouldn't have opted out of his contract at the beginning of this month (although he did over the weekend).

    And it was why Kevin Millwood was signed to a minor league deal in mid-May during the 2011 season when everything seemed peachy.

    It's the same boat the Red Sox' AL East competitors find themselves in. It is no mystery that the teams with the most resilient (and consistently effective) starting staff most likely will surface as the victors. It's why the Yankees are being linked with pitchers like Matt Garza. Their third-best starter (Phil Hughes), after all, is carrying a 4.96 ERA.

    It is starting pitching that got the Red Sox back in the conversation, with Bobby Valentine's staff carrying a 6.01 ERA while starting the season at 12-19. Since then, however, it has stabilized, entering Bard's latest start with the third-best starters' ERA in the American League (3.99), while going 13-6 and totaling the second-most innings in the AL (140) as a group.

    And it's no coincidence that during that time span the Red Sox' surge back into contention has been assisted by the starting rotations of the Orioles and Blue Jays going the opposite direction. From May 11-June 3, the Jays (5.04) and O's (5.05) had the 25th and 26th worst starters ERA, respectively, in the majors. Prior to that point, both teams' staffs held a 3.94 ERA or better while each carrying a winning record.

    Simply put, reality has hit some of these teams and the Red Sox have taken advantage.

    Toronto's young pitchers -- Brandon Morrow, Henderson Alvarez and Kyle Drabek -- all have ERAs of 5.57 or higher since May 11. Take away Brian Matusz, and the Orioles starters' ERAs over that span consist of a 4.70 (Jason Hammel), 5.87, (Wei-Yin Chen), 6.75 (Tommy Hunter) and 7.82 (Jake Arrieta).

    Who knew Doug Fister would be so important when he went from Seattle to Detroit last July? Or how desperate the Red Sox would appear when acquiring Erik Bedard? And remember the importance placed on Rich Harden's medicals?

    The plan certainly could come to fruition, with Josh Beckett, Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz all finding their happy places, while Felix Doubront continues to emerge as a top-of-the-rotation arm and 2012 Daniel Bard finally discovers 2011 Daniel Bard. But the Red Sox can't count on any of it, and they know it.

    It's a lesson they learned a year ago, and were reminded of Sunday.

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    Dodgers, Phillies and Diamondbacks interested in Youkilis

    According to a report from Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com, the Dodgers, Phillies and Diamondbacks are among the teams showing an interest in trading for Kevin Youkilis.

    Heyman reports that the talks are all at the preliminary stage at this point, though he also reports that the Sox envision an eventual need to trade Youkilis, who is batting .253 with four HR and 12 RBI in 28 games this season.

    In an email to WEEI.com last Friday, Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington denied a CBSSports.com report that the team intended to trade Youkilis.

    "That’s inaccurate," Cherington e-mailed WEEI.com on Friday. "Some teams have checked in on him. We haven’t told any teams we plan to trade him. It’s our job to listen if teams have interest. He’s swinging the bat well since coming off the DL and [is] a big part of our team and lineup."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbecks View Post
    This makes me nervous.

    Pedroia ready to play Tuesday
    i don't like that it seems like he's pushing that.

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    This team is still trying to make me hate them...

    Devin Marrero from ASU in the 1st round. .284/.340/.436 this season. Those are lousy numbers in Tempe.

    He could develop into another Nick Punto!

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    In his defense... Marrero allegedly had some ankle issues early in the season, and was projected to be a top-10 pick before his junior year.

    I was initially surprised at this as well (especially with Iglesias and Xander waiting in the wings, as well as some good arms still on the board), but he was by consensus the best defensive player of the top-tier prospects, and was apparently a worthy risk in hoping that his early collegiate career is more of an indicator than his later collegiate career. Give him a couple of years in the minors, and see how it goes. (If Iglesias works out, it's no big deal. If he doesn't... let's hope this Marrero kid can eventually get some stick.)

    And the last time the Sox drafted a SS from ASU, it worked out pretty well...

    And I'm a fan of the #31 pick as well - Brian Johnson, the LHP from Florida. He's a big boy, and doesn't throw especially hard, but he already throws four pitches. He could very well develop into a #4 or #5 starter, or be a solid bullpen contributor in a few years.

    I'm not as excited about this year's guys as much as last year's (Barnes, Swihart, Owens), but I wasn't expecting the world with this year's draft class.

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    Pedroia is in today's lineup vs the O's.

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    Bard optioned to Pawtucket?!?!!?

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    Yep, just saw that. A bit surprised myself, but it's certainly the safest place for him to work out his control issues.

    He was scheduled to start on Saturday. Not sure if they're going to move the other guys up or start Dice-K in his spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau Vine View Post
    Bard optioned to Pawtucket?!?!!?
    Bobby V said he's still going to work as a starter in AAA. He expects a "quick turnaround."


    Also, Dice-K is expected to start for Pawtucket tonight. If that happens, that could rule him out for being called up by Saturday (a national tv game, btw).

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    A Call to the Hall: Support Dwight Evans for The National Baseball Hall of Fame

    This petition calls for Jeff Idelson, President of The National Baseball Hall of Fame and the BBWAA Historical Overview Committee, to please select Dwight Evans as 1 of 12 finalists for the Expansion Era Ballot scheduled for the fall of 2013.

    Evans fell off the BBWAA ballot in 1999. He will again be eligible for election in the fall of 2013 via the Expansion Era ballot (Veterans Committee) for a July 2014 ceremonial induction.

    Bill James writes in his book “Whatever Happened to The Hall of Fame” that “Dwight Evans is also one of the most underrated players in baseball history, because he did many things well, rather than having one central skill that people could use to explain his excellence.”

    Selected to the ’80s All-Decade Team, Evans finished as a three-time All Star and two-time Silver Slugger. He won eight Gold Gloves in 10 seasons, (including five straight ’81-’85), and was selected by Major League Baseball as having one of the nine greatest outfield arms.

    Few can match Dwight Evans’ combined offensive and defensive accomplishments. For example, he is the only player in history to win eight Gold Gloves in his career, while also leading the American League for an entire decade (80s) in home runs (256) and all of Major League Baseball in runs created (1067) and extra base hits (605).

    Since the turn of the century, all players to lead their respective decade in extra base hits through 1980 have been inducted into the Hall of Fame. This list includes such greats as Honus Wagner - 1900s, Tris Speaker - 1910s, Babe Ruth - 1920s, Jimmie Foxx - 1930s, Stan Musial - 1940s and 50s, Hank Aaron - 1960s, Reggie Jackson - 1970s and Dwight Evans - 1980s.

    Evans is one of just 13 to have at least 2,400 hits, 1,450 runs, 1,375 walks, 1,375 RBI, 480 doubles and 385 home runs. Of those 13, Evans is the ONLY player previously eligible not to have been enshrined in Cooperstown. (It’s a list that includes Aaron, Ruth, Mays, Robinson, Williams, Ott, Gehrig, Musial and Yastrzemski.)

    Upon retirement in 1991 (pre-PED era), Evans ranked in the Top 10 as an American League right-handed hitter in HR (385, fourth), extra base hits (941, fourth), total bases (4,230, sixth), base on balls (1,391, fourth), times on base (3,890, fourth), runs created (1,612, fourth), runs produced (2,469, seventh) and RBI (1,384, ninth).

    From 1970-1989, no right fielder in Major League Baseball won more Gold Gloves than Dwight Evans.

    In 14 World Series games (two series, ‘75, ‘86) Evans hit .300, 15 hits, three HR, 14 RBI, seven walks, seven runs, .397 OBP, .580 SLG, .977 OPS and 29 total bases.

    Hall of Famer Carl Yastrzemski said it best: “Dewey was a great offensive player and one of the greatest right fielders to play the game; there’s no doubt in my mind that he belongs in the Hall of Fame.”

    We, the undersigned, feel that Dwight Evans should be recognized for his Major League Baseball accomplishments and selected as 1 of 12 finalists for the Expansion Era ballot scheduled for the fall of 2013.

    Sincerely,
    The Fans of Dwight "Dewey" Evans

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbecks View Post
    Also, Dice-K is expected to start for Pawtucket tonight. If that happens, that could rule him out for being called up by Saturday (a national tv game, btw).
    He started, but only went 1.1 innings. Which means...

    Dice-K to start Saturday vs the Nationals

    Dice-K last pitched in the big on May 16, 2011. He’ll next pitch in the bigs on June 9, 2012. That’s when he’ll be activated and face the Nationals.

    Matsuzaka had his last tuneup last night in which he allowed one run in a short, 1 1/3 inning performance. Overall he had a 3.65 ERA and struck out 30 guys while walking nine in 37 innings while on rehab. During that time he experiencedsome pain in his trapezius muscle, but now seems to be over it.

    Solid work by Matsuzaka, once considered gravy for the Red Sox, not seems pretty important to Boston remaining competitive in the tough AL East.

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    honestly, until you brought his name up a couple of days ago, i had erased that guy from my mind.

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    Upcoming nationally-televised games

    Thu, 6/7 v BAL - 6:10, MLBN
    Sat, 6/9 v WAS - 3:05, MLBN
    Mon, 6/11 @ MIA - 6:10, ESPN
    Tue, 6/12 @ MIA - 6:10, MLBN
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    Sat, 6/16 @ CHC - 6:15, FOX
    Sun, 6/17 @ CHC - 7:00, ESPN
    Thu, 6/21 v MIA - 6:10, MLBN
    Fri, 6/22 v ATL - 6:10, MLBN
    Sat, 6/23 v ATL - 6:15, FOX
    Sun, 6/24 v ATL - 12:35, TBS
    Sat, 6/30 @ SEA - 9:10, MLBN

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    Gat DAMMIT!

    The Sox are 0-5 vs the Orioles at Fenway this year... and have the lost the last 7 vs them at home dating back to last season.

    Beckett pitched fantastic tonight (8.0 IP, 2 ER, 5 H, 0 BB, 5 K), but still gets the loss. I hate those kind of games.

    They could only manage a single run against Bruce $#@!ing Chen.

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    Wrong Asian... Wei-Yin $#@!ing Chen.

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    Oh Jesus, you're right. Not sure if that makes it better or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbecks View Post
    Oh Jesus, you're right. Not sure if that makes it better or worse.
    Better -- this dude can actually pitch.

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    What does each inning come out to be with Dice-K? Like $600,000?


    And Dewey in the Hall of Fame is a tough call. I love him in the 80's, but I don't know if his career holds up. His glove was very underrated though, especially for such a great hitter with not the best of speed. He gunned down a lot of guys from the expanse of Fenway's RF. He also did two things freakishly well-he got to 1b out of the batter's box as fast as any other right-handed hitter. And he worked pitch counts like nobody else in the 80's, outside of Boggs. He consistently averaged about 100 strikeouts and 100 walks per season. he showed Rice and Baylor and Armas an extra 3 pitches in every at-bat, so they could get a better handle on the pitcher. I never watched Evans pop up on the firs pitch. He was a consumate hitter.
    Last edited by TheCruiser; 06-07-2012 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCruiser View Post
    What does each inning come out to be with Dice-K? Like $600,000?
    He makes a cool $10 million this season. If he can somehow throw 125 innings this year, that'd average out to $80,000 an inning. It's still better than Lackey...


    Re: Dewey in the HOF.

    I'm obviously biased, but I think he belongs in. I think the base standard for the Hall is "was he among the best players of a given era?" For the late 1970s-80s, he was up there. Like the paragraphs above state, he was one of the best overall - and most consistent - players of the 1980s.

    Sure, he doesn't have the 3000 hits, fell 15 HRs short of 400 (although fell victim to the strike-shortened 1981 season), didn't win an MVP or a World Series... but was still one of the best players of his era. Leading the AL in homers for a decade (and leading all of baseball in extra-base hits) should count for something, especially for a guy who was primarily known for his glove in his early career. And playing in one of the toughest outfield positions in baseball.

    These sorts of debates can go on forever, but if guys like Tony Perez, Ryne Sandberg, Kirby Puckett, Gary Carter, etc. all get in easily, Dewey should get more consideration. (And this isn't even bringing up guys from further back with comparable stats & abilities - Ron Santo, Bill Mazeroski, George Kell, Billy Williams, Enos Slaughter, Richie Ashburn, Larry Doby, Orlando Cepeda - who are all deservedly in the HOF.)

    Obviously Cooperstown is a unique and special place, even more so than the respective halls for football, basketball, or hockey. Voters don't want to vote for a player on his first year unless he's a shoo-in, and I think Dewey was the victim of circumstance by not making the required 5% vote in his third year of eligibility (1999), which just so happened to be the year in which Nolan, Robin Yount, Pudge Fisk, and George Brett were all eligible.

    I'm not saying he necessarily deserves to be in right this second, but he deserves at the very least to be one of those guys the Veteran's Committee looks at for the next decade or so.

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    That's more like it.

    If Lester - of all people - can work his $#@! out, the Sox just might have a decent 1-4 rotation now.

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    Carl Crawford cleared to begin throwing program

    Carl Crawford is set to start a throwing program Friday. It's the latest — and most important — step in his rehab process from wrist and elbow injuries.

    Crawford started the season on the disabled list recovering from surgery on his left wrist. That issue, he said, has completely cleared up.

    "My wrist is great, I don't even get treatment for that any more," Crawford said. "It's pretty much 100 percent at this point."

    The elbow became a problem in April and Crawford was diagnosed as having a partially torn ulnar collateral ligament. He was given a PRP injection April 26 to speed the healing process.

    "My elbow feels a lot better," Crawford said. "We'll know for sure once I start throwing."

    Crawford will start by basically playing catch and build up from there. Crawford needs to get to a point where he can make a throw from left field to a cut-off man. That would be the last hurdle to his starting a minor league rehabilitation assignment.

    "I don't know how long that will take," he said. "I hope not too long. I hate not playing."

    Crawford has been running and taking batting practice on a regular basis and appears to be in good shape. Being able to throw is the last step.

    "Hopefully all the rehab is going to pay off," he said.

    Crawford said that he has a "pretty good" relationship with Bobby Valentine after a rough start related to criticism Valentine had of the outfielder while he was a commentator on ESPN.

    "At first I didn't think we would probably get along that much," Crawford said. "It's better than I expected. He's a hands-on manager and that's like managers I've had in the past. He likes to teach and that's what I'm used to. Teaching is always good. I'm a guy who always wants to learn more about the game. Information for me is always good. As of right now the relationship is definitely better than I expected and I'm looking forward to playing for him."

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