Lacouture and Gustafson are the kind of guys Texas shouldn't have to take unless they are just pure glue types. They might wind up AAs, but no one would take them over Raulerson, Robinson, James, Perkins, Wilson, Golden, Manning, etc. They're fine for what ATM is right now, which is Arkansas/Miss State level competitive.
However, go over to texags. Every commit, even the ones with only one offer (aggies), are supposedly "big time commits", "underrated", "he was high on the coaches board", or the best one yet... "he's an SEC recruit". Truth is you guys have taken some VERY questionable takes this early. While it's generating excitement right now, chances are you will not have many spots left later in the process for late bloomers... an issue we had to deal with.
No, I'm not saying every aggy grad, drop-out or student is a loud-mouthed moron. However, your campus culture has long been documented of having a rather severe obsessiveness about being an aggy. Don't go all pink ass on us now. You can debate this until your maroon in the face but the facts remain and the evidence is well established.
You people are definitely of a whole different kind. Yeah.... I said 'you people.'
Last edited by HousHorn09; 02-21-2012 at 08:38 AM.
Most aggy fans aren't delusional, but most delusional fans are aggys.
i saw that too, it was $#@!ing funny.haha, I just recently saw a thread on there where they were gloating about how all their players were on the ESPN 150 list. Then one of the smarter ones figured out it was just a watch list that has about 500 prospects. I couldn't help but laugh.
Aggy thinks they have 8 of the Top 150!
Perkins for sure, but no on all the rest - i love raulerson, but he's not an edge ol prospect; he's going to be a stud sde or center for you guys. i think gustafson is going to be a great tackle in about 3 years.Perkins, Robinson, Raulerson, Porter, and Wilson are all better OT prospects than Gustafson.
25 posts later... Yep, you tards are delusional. Just not 100% of the time.Ah, I see. Was definitely curious about that as I was doing my research. I just wanted to give everyone an idea about where this class stacks up on a national scale and how many of the 13 guys are "elites"Sorry to burst anybody's bubble, but these are just ESPN 150 watchlist guys. There's probably about 300-500 on the watchlist right now, and they'll cull the list later this year.
A&M is doing well early, but might be reaching on a few early. What remains to be seen is if those guys move up in the rankings as most Aggies assume they will all end up 4 stars.
Derek Griffin - grade risk
Jamar Gibson - grade risk
James White - (although they think he's the best back in Texas which I don't get)
People I've never heard of who Aggies think will be high 4 stars when all is said and done
Overall good haul so far. Ishmael Wilson is the only surprise out of the bunch. Thought he was LSU all day.
As far as A'Shawn Robinson and Wilson, they were recruited by the likes of Bama, LSU, Florida, Texas, USC, etc to play OT. They both are at 300lb+ and are on a whole another level than Gustafson. Anyone outside of aggyland would pick these two over him.
I do agree that Gustafson is talented and definitely a guy every program could use. But he's not a franchise player at LT, atleast not right now. He needs to put on about 30-35 lbs and has a ways to go. Could he potentially end up as a better prospect than the ones mentioned above, sure... but most programs will take a 300 OT right now who is just as quick and flexible over a 265-270 guy that hasn't filled out his frame yet with the potential to lose quickness.
Like I said, he's a good get but he's not even in the top 5 OT prospects in the state this year. Not a bad thing considering it's one of best years for OL prospects.
Last edited by victory88; 02-21-2012 at 10:10 AM.
He will be on "de-commit watch" for the next 11 months. Appears susceptible, but who knows, Aggy may hold on.Ishmael Wilson is the only surprise out of the bunch. Thought he was LSU all day.
Fingers will be crossed on Wilson till the fax comes through.
Derrick Griffin (grades)
i don't know exactly how Rivals works, but it appears they haven evaluated enough of the 2013 players to get 4 stars on the 4 star players.
currently the Aggies have 5 - 4 stars and 8 - non stared players. Are these 8 players more than likely 3 stars? And if so, is a 5 to 8 four star/three star ratio pretty typical for an aggy class?
Ags have 2 players in the Rivals top 100, 3 in the top 150, and 4 in the top 250. Reading texags, you would think they had 9 elite athletes committed. The delusion is always strong with aggy. We get a verbal from Jake Oliver and he's a 'jag', he's slow, and not SEC good. James White verbals and he's a massive beast that's going to dominate in the SEC. The logic (read: delusion) over there is just incredibly hard to understand.
That said, it's looking like they're going to get a commit from Justin Manning. With Wilson and Golden already in the fold, that's 3 guys the Horn's would've loved to pick up, so I do see a little improvement. Sumlin is obviously selling something these guys are eating up. Problem for the ags is they have to avoid being dominated in the SEC this season or I can see another mass exodus a la last year. You can sell all the hope in the world to these kids, but the proof is in the pudding.
Ags have 13 in the class, five 4* (If you include Griffin(grades) and Gibson(considered a soft verbal), and eight 3*. Horns have 5 recruits total, and 4 are top 100 with any service you look at, 5 in the top 150. I think Hicks will be a top 100 player by the time the rankings are finished, but we'll see. How can anyone objectively look at that and conclude the ags have a better class so far? Yet, if you mosey over to texags, they have by far, THE BESTEST CLASS IN THE NATION!!!! Definition of delusion, but it's just a replay of 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008......aggy is as aggy does.
Last edited by The Missing Link; 02-21-2012 at 12:46 PM.
Ex: If Ford or Hicks would have committed to a&m, White never gets offered. So does that still make him a first tier offer?
Most people on here despised the commitments of Paden Kelly, Chet Moss, Taylor Doyle, Roberson, and a bunch of other players. Also, only taking one at a position like Whaley or Shead has been met with hatred. You will not find that on texaggy, ever. All commits are future stars, or at worst they're under the radar or posters are hissed at because they don't "trust the coaches". This fanbase is more critical of our own than just about anyone else in the country. We don't bend to the group mentality that overtakes the "SEC SEC" type mouth-breather. If anything, most posters are probably too critical or too pessimistic.
and you completely miss the point.
we've taken guys like that early that were first tier offers from coach brown (presumably because he knew they'd instantly commit). does not make them better players, and that has proven itself time and again with our team as guys that are early momentum builders fail to make any impact on the team
and if there's any difference - which would be minimal at best - it would be in size. you can't miss small on a kid in the sec west, which is why i say raulerson is an all day screaming take at de and maybe c, but there's no way he cuts it in the sec as a tackle, where alabama is sending 260 pound freaks at linebacker at you.
i've screamed for years here and elsewhere A&M won't compete until we consistently grab some first rung targets on defensive side, especially in the front 7. with the 2 dt's, sumlin is off to a good start but obviously needs to hold on.lol... you guys have been saying this about Fran, Sherman, and every head coach you've ever had... and where did that get you guys? a bordering mediocre .500 team for the past decade in the big 12?
Last edited by bizzle; 02-21-2012 at 03:26 PM.
Aggy good = makes a bowl game.
Last edited by The Missing Link; 02-21-2012 at 03:34 PM.
hopefully this is the last A&M football thread we see in these parts
We have a pretty good record against the might SEC West under Mack, despite not having SEC West-caliber lineman. Wont two Cotton Bowls with our smallish team, beat Arky a couple of times as well. Good thing we now know what kind of player is needed to win the big games.
These aggy are funny guys.
If they are going to get their annual rash of decommits anyway, it makes even more sense to take the the lower tier guys now. They won't have to start over from scratch so late in the game. It's actually a brilliant strategy: take the second tier guys now instead of having to make up ground with them after its too late in the process.
4 of their 5 best recruits stand a decent chance of never setting foot on campus. Yikes.
Last edited by The Missing Link; 02-21-2012 at 06:10 PM.
Personally, I'm starting to think guard might be his best position, but I wouldn't put tackle out of the question. The kid put on a ton of size between his sophomore and junior years, and by all accounts he is a ridiculously hard worker. In the end, with his motor and work ethic, he's a take wherever he wants to play. To act like he couldn't cut it as a tackle prospect at A&M is laughable.
Last edited by RickyVince; 02-21-2012 at 08:03 PM.
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