And that list matters because literally every single player in Missouri who wants to play in-state has to do so at MU. Mizzou needs to be on every Missourian's radar.
It took you both the second-best draft pick/FBS school ratio in the country PLUS getting a third of your players from Texas for you guys to achieve "pretty good" status in the Big 12. "Pretty good" means consistent winning seasons without achieving anything of value.
In summary, Mizzou's done a piss-poor job of exploiting its state monopoly AND it's losing its Texas pipeline AND it's heading to a much tougher place than the Big 12 North where they didn't win $#@! anyway.
How is this not obvious to you guys?
The Big 12 had the highest strength of schedule in the country last year (by computer average). In fact Texas had the 4th toughest schedule if you averaged out the BCS computers. One of the teams that hurt our SOS the most was... aggy. Plugging in WVU and TCU I think almost assures that we will have a top 10 SOS again next year. But thank you for your idiocy.
Must be real exciting to know all those ranked teams are coming to town yet your own team will be so awful and get so destroyed that they will never be ranked.
I'll miss aggy. They were the perfect rival in that they could $#@! up anything. They perfected the art of the choke so many times and it never got old. Their incompetence on the field is only eclipsed by the delusions of grandeur of their fan base. I for one, will miss those stupid $#@!s.
And I'm still not seeing how the total number of FBS programs rather than just BCS-conference programs is relevant. Troy steals as many recruits from Alabama as Southeast Missouri State steals from Mizzou.
oh, I would be remiss if in all this innane folderol from the $#@!ing cowards who RAN AWAY, I did not reiterate the fact that...
Sad for you that you think third tier SEC! teams running train on you means you're a contributing member... aggy and that jock sniffing poindexter you call the prez will soon realize that the only way to get your names in the news was to find a new group of stepfathers who will also (at least you're used to it) curb stomp you. You won't have to see them on Mondays (unless you decide to take that job at the spittoon museum in arkybamasippilinada), so that will improve your quality of life somewhat. You'll get to head into town in January with your "city overalls" on and cheer on your rapists in a real bowl from the filthy mattress on the floor of your shreveport hotel room. secsecsecAnd yet... the voters still put up the #2 SEC team over the #1 Big 12 team. Tsk tsk tsk....
And now you're letting the rest of the SEC pillage your state? I can't stop you guys from committing suicide, but damn, open your $#@!in eyes.
I think schedule smack is the only thing aggy has left. They really just don't get it.
aggy and mizzou were a combined 2 games over .500 in the history of the Big XII. 1 conference title between the 2 of them. TCU and WVU have more than that just last season. We add the pride of 2 conferences, and we lose 2 ho hum also rans. Yes, you are now in the SEC, but you had $#@! to do with that success, and you will continue to have $#@! to do with their success.
Imagine if Vince Carter was running around talking about how great the Mavs are and how awesome he is for being a world champion. You would think "what a dumbass, he wasn't even there last year".
I guess I am appealing to aggy logic. For that waste of time I am sorry.
I thought they felt that keeping the Texas connection going was the most important thing, but apparently not.
Huge mistake- they could always build up a rivalry with Arky if/when SEC goes to 16 and they move to the West, but they'd be far better served in the meantime by keeping Aggy as their permanent rival, focusing on Texas recruits and having a more competitive program via those recruits.
Mizzou recruiting in GA and FL ought to be fun to watch. Would like to hear that pitch.
Ugh, "then" should obviously be "than" in that post. Tapatalked that one.
Yeah, I agree the effect is minimal in a tangible sense. The other guy's point about brand awareness and lack of dilution is actually a pretty good one. Not to get overly particular, but the proper weighting is probably BCS conference schools plus some coefficient times the number of other FBS schools (like 0.4 or something). Comparing the ability of the State of Florida to have multiple powerhouses at one time versus the State of Texas throughout history tells me that the additional FBS schools do have some sort of impact. Through 1997, I think, Florida only had the three FBS programs. Texas had 10. Obviously lots of those were in the SWC, so that argument gets muddied.
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Who is LSU's cross rival? Florida? And I heard this morning that the aggy/$#@!s game will be the Thanksgiving weekend game. I thought you guys were getting LSU on Turkey Day? Guess not.
From 1988-2005, 12 Missouri high schoolers were drafted from Mizzou while 15 were drafted from Illinois, Nebraska, or Wisconsin.
From 2006-2011, 8 Missouri high schoolers were drafted from Mizzou versus 2 from Big 10 schools and 0 from Nebraska.
Texas recruits certainly helped, but that right there is the primary reason for Mizzou's vast improvement over the last 7-8 years over the 20 years prior.
"We are going to get beat by the best of the best of the best, SIR!"
Does it reflect in any way on aggie success that you have been in a conference (Big 12)that has represented 7 times in the championship game in the BSC era? How has being a flagship ]institution (#2) in the best football state, in the second best conference in the land, earning you a near .590 record during that time, a 2-9 bowl record and an average finish in the Big12 of 6th place advanced your status? I'm waiting...
But somehow all that will change when you become the SEC's step child?
Your delusion is based on the irrational world view, instilled at fish camp, that your rightful place in this world is to rule the state of Texas and the world. You need not earn this, because it's somehow your birthright, stolen by the sips....all that "Aggie spirit" and "first state institution" blather.
I tried to look up my question on NFL.com but they appear to have incomplete birthplace information and no high school information where I was looking.
From 1988-2005, they reported 1 draftee from Missouri born in Texas (Victor Bailey, 1993 second round).
From 2006-2011, the number is 3 (Stryker Sulak 2009 6th round, Ziggy Hood 2009 1st round, Sean Weatherspoon 2010 1st round (high school information)). Recent players have high school information.
So the Missouri based draftee rate went up 100% while the Texas draftee rate went up 500%. In raw numbers, the Missouri rate went up by 2/3 of a player drafted per year and the Texas rate went up by 5/9 of a player per year. When you add in roster composition (35 Texas HS players last year I think), it's hard to argue that the influence of dominating Missouri recruiting was clearly more influential than Texas recruiting.
Purdue, Cal, Arizona State, Navy, Boise State, UCLA, Utah, Colorado, and Vanderbilt all signed kids in the Texas Top 100 last year so this idea that the type of Texas kids Pinkel has tended to sign (i.e. 2 and 3 star Texas recruits without offers from Texas, A&M, or Tech) will only go to schools who play annual conference games in Texas is asinine.
Do you actually believe that the quantity and/or quality of recruits Missouri gets from Texas won't decrease? We can revisit your roster composition in 2017 if we remember.
And what factors would suggest a possible quality increase?
I don't think it's a certified death blow to Missouri's football program by any means. But there is no doubt that the move brings a lot of risk to the program. Missouri's Texas-based talent is not irreplaceable, but it does indeed need to be replaced. I don't see the Tigers ever being a national recruiting power, so they need to get new pipelines going somewhere. The problem is that no pipeline state worth having is set up to be as easy to access as Texas was in the Big 12. A kid from Florida may realize that Missouri is in Florida's conference, but that state is not as strong a single conference state as Texas was. Missouri will play two conference games in Florida every four years, half as many as they played in Texas. Furthermore, local college football coverage is going to be about national goings-on and the ACC as much as it is about the SEC.
Missouri has some work to do in order to adapt to the new situation. It is not nearly as dire as some on here are acting, but it is also not nearly as simply as you make it sound.
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