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    JetBlue Pilot Tries To Take Down Plane

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    A JetBlue pilot is now in FBI custody after suffering some form of mental break down on a flight from New York to Las Vegas. The co-pilot allegedly kicked the pilot out of the $#@!pit and passengers tackled him.

    Flight 191 from JFK to Las Vegas was diverted two hours ago to Amarillo because of the pilot's panic attack. According to Twitter user Grant F. Heppes who was on the flight, the pilot "tried to take down the plane" before being apprehended by passnegers.

    JFK issues a statement saying the plane was diverted "for a medical situation involving the Captain" and that a pilot on the plane who was dead-heading took over command.

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    I'm not sure what psych evals JetBlue does on staff but between this and the flight attendant incident, they may want to re-evaluate them.

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    JetBlue is quickly getting a rep for having employees go crazy.

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    A JetBlue captain Tuesday raced inside an airliner screaming obscenities and shouting about threats from al-Qaida and bombs aboard the aircraft, forcing an emergency landing in Amarillo, passengers said.

    A half-dozen to 10 passengers jumped atop the pilot and pinned him to the floor, passengers said. Flight 191 landed at Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport at 10:11 a.m., JetBlue said in a statement. The aircraft was carrying people bound from New York to Las Vegas, Nev., for a security convention, passengers said. The pilot went to a restroom, then emerged, “shouting, ‘Iraq, al-Qaida, terrorism, we’re all going down.’

    It seemed like he went crazy,” said Gabriel Schonzeit, of New York City, who was seated in the third row and traveling to the security convention. JetBlue and Transportation Security Administration officials described the pilot as having a medical condition.

    He was transported to Northwest Texas Hospital, officials said. He has not been identified. The crew kicked the pilot out of the $#@!pit, and he turned unruly, attempting to use the intercom system, which had been disabled, said Josh Re$#@!, 41, of New York. The pilot later attempted to re-enter the $#@!pit, but his security code appeared to have been changed, Schonzeit said.

    When the pilot began pounding on the $#@!pit door, a former prison security guard grabbed him by the neck and choked the captain until he collapsed, Schonzeit said. “We all knew in the front rows if he got back in the $#@!pit, we were going down,” Schonzeit said. The captain started pounding on the door when another passenger, a former prison security guard, grabbed the pilot by the neck and choked him until he collapsed.

    “The pilot was a very large man, bigger than me,” said Schonzeit, who stands 6 feet, 3 inches and weighs 250 pounds. A flight attendant was elbowed in the ribs during the struggle to keep the captain subdued, Schonzeit said. The passengers tried to bind the captain’s wrists behind his back with a zip tie, but he broke it, Schonzeit said. “I couldn’t have broken those,” Schonzeit said.

    Passengers handed over their belts to bind the pilot’s arms, Schonzeit said. Another Captain, traveling off duty on Flight 191, entered the flight deck prior to landing at Amarillo, and took over the duties of the ill crewmember once on the ground,” JetBlue’s statement said. The Airbus A320 jet departed at 7:28 a.m. from New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport Airport, JetBlue said.

    Passengers deplaned and went through security checks with their carry-on luggage. During the check, authorities brought in a drug dog to search a passenger's bags. JetBlue said the passengers will continue their trip on another plane. Federal airport officials are directing all inquiries to JetBlue, TSA spokesman Luis Casanova said. The FBI is investigating. “It seems to be more of a medical issue than a security issue at this point,” he said.

    The exact convention to which some of the passengers were headed is unknown.

    International Security Conference West 2012 gets under way in Las Vegas with a bonus education event Tuesday. The conference draws more than 900 international and domestic security manufacturing companies and more than 23,000 security professionals to Las Vegas each year, according to convention sponsor Security Industry Association. The conference is set for Wednesday through Friday at the Sands Expo and Convention Center, according to the ISC West 2012 website.

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    So...drug dog sniffing the bags? Just cause?

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    Wow. JetBlue's got some 'splaining to do.

    What is most interesting to me about this story is the reaction from the passengers. The world completely changed after 9/11. Now, anytime something jacked-up happens on an airplane you have passengers just looking for reason to jump out of their seats and tackle the problem head-on. I think this is a great thing, because in most cases it makes air travel more secure. The air marshalls don't even need to be there, because you can be damn sure there will a contingent of men (and women in some cases) ready to assist the flight crew in any way necessary.

    There is a hyper-awareness and readiness that is there now, on every flight, and it will keep the 9/11 attacks (in that form) from ever being repeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homercles View Post
    So...drug dog sniffing the bags? Just cause?
    I thought that was odd as well. What a $#@!ty way to get busted if anyone did

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxArch View Post
    Jeezus $#@! balls, I sharted just watching that. Plane crashes and fire have to be the worst ways to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by updawg View Post
    I thought that was odd as well. What a $#@!ty way to get busted if anyone did
    Anyone dumb enough to bring drugs onto an airplane probably deserves to go to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOR View Post
    Jeezus $#@! balls, I sharted just watching that. Plane crashes and fire have to be the worst ways to go.
    Plane crashes probably aren't that bad, its over pretty quick and relatively painless unless you survive the impact for a while. I can think of a lot worse ways to go than a plane crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisketexan View Post
    Well, I DO have one big question . . . .

    Which Shaggy poster was this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellraiser97 View Post
    Plane crashes probably aren't that bad, its over pretty quick and relatively painless unless you survive the impact for a while. I can think of a lot worse ways to go than a plane crash.
    While the death may be quick and painless, depending on the nature of the crash, you're given a relatively long time to ponder your imminent death and be scared $#@!less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellraiser97 View Post
    Plane crashes probably aren't that bad, its over pretty quick and relatively painless unless you survive the impact for a while. I can think of a lot worse ways to go than a plane crash.
    The end would go quickly. The minutes leading up to it where you know you are probably going to die would suck.

    Edit: What Mizzou said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellraiser97 View Post
    Plane crashes probably aren't that bad, its over pretty quick and relatively painless unless you survive the impact for a while. I can think of a lot worse ways to go than a plane crash.
    I think the worst part is the roughly one minute or so that you might have knowing you are about to crash.

    Vs. getting slammed in the car door by a bus @ 60 mph & it's instantaneous (you hope).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashMaster G View Post
    Wow. JetBlue's got some 'splaining to do.

    What is most interesting to me about this story is the reaction from the passengers. The world completely changed after 9/11. Now, anytime something jacked-up happens on an airplane you have passengers just looking for reason to jump out of their seats and tackle the problem head-on. I think this is a great thing, because in most cases it makes air travel more secure. The air marshalls don't even need to be there, because you can be damn sure there will a contingent of men (and women in some cases) ready to assist the flight crew in any way necessary.

    There is a hyper-awareness and readiness that is there now, on every flight, and it will keep the 9/11 attacks (in that form) from ever being repeated.
    I think this part was quite interesting, too:

    Another Captain, traveling off duty on Flight 191, entered the flight deck prior to landing at Amarillo, and took over the duties of the ill crewmember once on the ground,” JetBlue’s statement said. The Airbus A320 jet departed at 7:28 a.m. from New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport Airport, JetBlue said.
    He was obviously carrying some ID -- or the crew recognized him on site -- but that seemed fairly bold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzou415 View Post
    While the death may be quick and painless, depending on the nature of the crash, you're given a relatively long time to ponder your imminent death and be scared $#@!less.
    yeah those folks on the Air France flight that went down on the trip from Brazil fell 37,000 feet- with the 2 idiot Captain's "successfully" leveling the plane 2 or 3 times after falling 10,000 feet each time. And then losing control because they fought the autopilot. Took something like 5 minutes to fall the whole way- and all they could do was scream and $#@! themselves the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    He was obviously carrying some ID -- or the crew recognized him on site -- but that seemed fairly bold.
    Not bold @ all - this happens all the time. He was Dead Heading, meaning he might live in New York but his hub is out of Vegas. He'll catch a ride to Vegas, work his flight to somewhere like Miami, then go back to NYC on another Dead Head.

    I think it even happens on competing airlines if there is space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashMaster G View Post
    you can be damn sure there will a contingent of men (and women in some cases) ready to assist the flight crew
    Or tackle the flight crew, as the case may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzou415 View Post
    While the death may be quick and painless, depending on the nature of the crash, you're given a relatively long time to ponder your imminent death and be scared $#@!less.
    That's true. Of course if you know death is coming, if you act quick, you can rub it out one last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCAAFBALLROX View Post
    Not bold @ all - this happens all the time. He was Dead Heading, meaning he might live in New York but his hub is out of Vegas. He'll catch a ride to Vegas, work his flight to somewhere like Miami, then go back to NYC on another Dead Head.

    I think it even happens on competing airlines if there is space.
    I think he means it was bold to let him help fly the plane.

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    That was probably a career limiting moment for that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCAAFBALLROX View Post
    Not bold @ all - this happens all the time. He was Dead Heading, meaning he might live in New York but his hub is out of Vegas. He'll catch a ride to Vegas, work his flight to somewhere like Miami, then go back to NYC on another Dead Head.

    I think it even happens on competing airlines if there is space.
    What I find to be bold isn't the off-duty captain ostensibly commuting to his hub (I'm aware of that practice), but rather letting him into the $#@!pit. I know $#@! about flying commercial airliners or their operating and emergency procedures, but if I were the co-pilot and I could have landed the plane by myself, I'm not sure I would have unsecured the $#@!pit door and/or let anyone in after what just happened.

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    He was obviously carrying some ID -- or the crew recognized him on site -- but that seemed fairly bold.
    If he was dead heading he was probably in uniform and had his company ID. Also, given chaos and stress level of the flight attendants anyone who could speak with authority and take control of the situation was probably allowed to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    What I find to be bold isn't the off-duty captain ostensibly commuting to his hub (I'm aware of that practice), but rather letting him into the $#@!pit. I know $#@! about flying commercial airliners or their operating and emergency procedures, but if I were the co-pilot and I could have landed the plane by myself, I'm not sure I would have unsecured the $#@!pit door and/or let anyone in after what just happened.
    Hell, Leonardo DiCaprio deadheaded all the time and he wasn't even a real pilot.

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    Just checked in with my friend who works for JetBlue.

    They, of course, are trying to gather all the information.....but my friend said that a lot of people know this pilot and claim he is a "stand-up guy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    I think this part was quite interesting, too:



    He was obviously carrying some ID -- or the crew recognized him on site -- but that seemed fairly bold.
    It was ok, he stayed at a Holiday Inn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaysOff View Post
    That was probably a career limiting moment for that guy.
    There's always those 'private' flights to and from Mexico to earn some caysh.

    And yeah, it's not the instantaneous death of hitting the ground, it's the 2-3 minutes of sheer terror as you watch the earth come up to smack you in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellraiser97 View Post
    That's true. Of course if you know death is coming, if you act quick, you can rub it out one last time.
    This never occurred to me. Mental note taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaysOff View Post
    That was probably a career limiting moment for that guy.
    prison usually has a way of doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerack View Post
    Just checked in with my friend who works for JetBlue.

    They, of course, are trying to gather all the information.....but my friend said that a lot of people know this pilot and claim he is a "bat$#@!-crazy guy".
    fify

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerack View Post
    Just checked in with my friend who works for JetBlue.

    They, of course, are trying to gather all the information.....but my friend said that a lot of people know this pilot and claim he is a "stand-up guy".
    he was a good kid?

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    I think the AF447 flight that fell into the Atlantic probably wasn't tons of screaming and rioting, the plane was in a flat attitude falling at close to 10,000fpm...once you're in a stable fall there's no feeling of weighlessness or anything. Now when he threw the throttles on takeoff thrust, pulled up and hit the top of that arc before starting the fatal descent...I bet some pants were ruined...but they were already in heavy turbulence so who knows.

    Reading the technical details of how all that transpired is a scary, scary thing

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    Jesus, I can't imagine being stuck in AMA for a long period of time. Those poor passengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxArch View Post
    he was a good kid?
    I'm still waiting to hear if he was wearing a hoodie or not...

    (too soon?)

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    Sounds like he's going to be manning a cargo plane full of rubber dog $#@! out of Hong Kong

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    Another pilot gets to move up the list.

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    OP's thread title is misleading and sensationalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash_davis View Post
    prison usually has a way of doing that.
    The guy is going to a psychiatric ward, not prison.

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    I'm not a sketchy Ca...that's Chuy. I'm the FO.

    This is real strange. I'd like to have heard that $#@!pit conversation that led up to the FO suggesting the Ca go take a leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellraiser97 View Post
    That's true. Of course if you know death is coming, if you act quick, you can rub it out one last time.
    Quote Originally Posted by crackamacgowski View Post
    This never occurred to me. Mental note taken.
    I'd try to get one last $#@! on. Modesty be damned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhero View Post
    I'd try to get one last $#@! on. Modesty be damned.
    Fishstix, you whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowery21 View Post
    I'm not a sketchy Ca...that's Chuy. I'm the FO.

    This is real strange. I'd like to have heard that $#@!pit conversation that led up to the FO suggesting the Ca go take a leak.
    I'm sure it will be on liveatc.net before you know it.

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    If the Captain had just held off a few days longer he could have pawned it off as an 'April Fools!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanson View Post
    Jesus, I can't imagine being stuck in AMA for a long period of time. Those poor passengers.
    no $#@!, especially when the destination is vegas. people been thinking about their vegas vacation/batch party for months and an hour out they get rerouted to amarillo, tx where they undoubtedly got to spend a lot of time sitting, waiting, and talking to authorities about what they saw or did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrashMaster G View Post
    Wow. JetBlue's got some 'splaining to do.

    What is most interesting to me about this story is the reaction from the passengers. The world completely changed after 9/11. Now, anytime something jacked-up happens on an airplane you have passengers just looking for reason to jump out of their seats and tackle the problem head-on. I think this is a great thing, because in most cases it makes air travel more secure. The air marshalls don't even need to be there, because you can be damn sure there will a contingent of men (and women in some cases) ready to assist the flight crew in any way necessary.

    There is a hyper-awareness and readiness that is there now, on every flight, and it will keep the 9/11 attacks (in that form) from ever being repeated.
    Thankfully that whole attitude and ability is icing on the cake as Homeland Security ensures we are all as safe as can be once we pass through security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhero View Post
    I'd try to get one last $#@! on. Modesty be damned.
    So, just curious, but if you are traveling solo would the immediacy of the situation cause you to expand your target age range? On both ends?

    Just wondering if we need to invite Chris Hansen in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lat22 View Post
    I'm sure it will be on liveatc.net before you know it.
    Unlikely, since that records transmissions from ATC to the $#@!pit. It's likely the CVR will be released at some point (at least a transcript).

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    Damn. I flew into KAMA yesterday for some crappy fajita nachos at the cafe next to the FBO. If only it were today I could have gotten one hell of a show!

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