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That is a long run-on sentence
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/show...-for-this-quotOriginally Posted by SubliminalHorn
just understand that while I do indeed have psychic abilities, I did not foresee this exchange, and did not use the term "$#@!got" in the pejorative as it pertains to homosexuals; it's more in the South Park vein, if that makes you feel any better.
edit: for some reason it wont let me link you directly to my post, but it's post 42.
Last edited by Derka Derka; 04-22-2012 at 04:16 PM.
Derka, you're obviously a big Thunder fan. Good on ya! It's also obvious you can't stand hearing anything negative about them. That's cool. I just happen to think the Spurs match up very well with OKC and will beat them in a 7 game series. You don't agree with me. Cool. I'm just not hat worried about them outside of RW and KD. I'm just not. No, not even nazr.
I really don't care about rep. You seem to, though. I just like to point out its silliness over a damn prediction thread. Whoooooo cares
Where on earth are you getting this from?
I neg repped you because your post deserved it. You insinuated that the Thunder have nothing more than a couple of scorers. I responded in detail, laying out for you 4 paragraphs worth of what the Thunder have. Your response?
If you posted on this board, oh, ever, you'd know my disdain for posters who have strong opinions and never say jack $#@! to back them up, because this board is dominated by those kinds of posters. You aren't even attempting to discuss basketball, you're just screaming, "yay Spurs!". You're posting like lhg, circa 2009. THAT is why I neg repped you, not because I disagree with your opinion. It's pretty simple: Talk basketball. make posts that are fact based, stat filled, and longer than one sentence. Dont just show up once in a blue moon with retarded drive-by inanities.
I post on the only thread I care about. The Spurs thread. I really don't give a $#@! what you "disdain" on this board. You're not the arbiter of this board, no matter how much you think you are. I made a fact-based post, which is the Spurs have trouble with big, physical centers and forwards. I should have added that they should also be pretty good scorers as well. I don't believe that OKC presents this problem for the Spurs like, say, Memphis would. Will theSpurs sweep OKC? Of course not. I'm sure they'll win at least 1.........
The Spurs have dominated the Thunder this year, and really every year since KD arrived. It's a great matchup for the Spurs as their pick and roll offense is extremely effective with OKC not having the ability to clog the lane and close on shooters.
Who comes out of the West now likely depends on seeding/matchups. If the Thunder dodge the Spurs they will likely be in the finals. Same goes for the Spurs dodging the Lakers.
I'm not sure if either SA or OKC can beat the Heat/Bulls in the finals.
I'm worried about the Bulls. That defense is nasty.
I'm worried about them, too. And Miami. But then, I'm worried about the first round, regardless of how it ultimately turns out.
well, I might need to change my pick is Harden is out for any extended period of time. $#@! Ron Artest, $#@!ing piece of $#@!.
Yep. I was gonna add on that there's still a lot of basketball to be played to be worried about the Bulls right now
The Bulls have no chance if Rose isn't completely healthy
OKC looks really good today. But the Lakers are continuing a string of pretty weak play. Gasol looks soft and clueless; Kobe looks rusty. And those long offensive boards for OKC are killing them.
This game could pretty much seal the #1 seed for the Spurs
especially if Harden has to miss a few games.
Westbrook playing like he did last year in the playoffs
Uh...what was I saying again?
so now OKC has to win game 7 @ SA
Not a problem. Stern will take care of it. San Antonio's old ass winning another championship? BO-RING. No one wants to see Frenchie's like Parker and Euro's like Manu, and swimmers like Tim Duncan win. They wanna See KD and RW vs the Big 3 or D Rose. it's in the bag baby.
Is Argentina in Europe?
also Pops has the edge over Kenny Smith's backup
OK, that was pretty funny.
I won't make any predictions until the end of the regular season because of what happened in the last regular season game last year and what happened today with Artest and Harden.
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/show...ht=Manu+Europe
linking to an exact post isnt working for some reason, but it's here, post 59:
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/show...ht=Manu+Europe
what? I dont follow what youre saying here.
Also, how did you get it to link to Hoosier's post? it's not working for me when I try, and it's something Ive done plenty of times before (clicking on the post number to get the post-specific url).
The Spurs are a better overall team than OKC. The Spurs' big 3 produce with the type of efficiency (rather than volume) that only Durant can claim on OKC. RW is prone to the sort of accuracy and composure lapses (3-22 today, when it mattered) that used to happen to TP in the playoffs. TP has a killer $#@!ing instinct this year, and RW knows it (see:42 pt game in RW's face).
Not to be overlooked is OKC's propensity to turn it over (last in the league), which as they showed today can swing a game really quickly out of their favor.
Harden is a scoring machine. OKC scores more points/100 minutes with Harden on the floor than any other player can claim. You may find it interesting that Manu is right behind him in that category.
Ultimately though, an OKC-SA series will come down to SA's superior depth. Our second team could kick the $#@! out of about 1/3 of the leage's starting squads. And with random dudes like Green, Neal, Bonner, Sjax and Splitter benefiting from Manu's creativity with the first teams on the bench, I don't see OKC making up for that disadvantage over the course of a series.
Our team is clicking at the right time, with tons of championship leadership. If this series comes to be I'll be wagering on Spurs in 6.
To the topic, I'm hoping for SA>CHI in 7. Should be an awesome playoffs all around.
I was amazed at how Jordan Hill controlled the glass in the face of high priced talent like Perkins , Ibaka, etc. To DD, forget the link business, the big picture is that OKC will have to win 1, probably 2 games in SA since SA will likely win 1 @ OKC. That's hard to do, almost impossible. Harden is the Yoda of that team, RW is the unruly idiot savant who needs guidance. Without Harden, the team collapses.
so why do the spurs beat the grizzlies in the 2nd round this year?
Tiago Splitter will play alongside Duncan to match size. The Spurs have added three extremely long, athletic wing players that spread the floor and play great D. Most importantly, Duncan and Ginobili are healthy right now (knocks on wood)
Also, the spurs went into the playoffs last year losing 6 in a row, playing by far their worst ball of the season, and then Manu gets injured in the final regular season game. We are more or less blowing out everyone right now, at home or on the road.
Memphis still provides matchup problems, which I referred to a few posts above yours. It would be a good series. None of that matters if Memphis can't get past LAC, who would get run out of the building by SA.
Should have added that Jefferson no longer taking up minutes and Blair effectively out of the starting rotation against large front lines have been huge for this team as well.
Spurs vs. Heat in Finals.
As a Spurs fan, I $#@!ing love the idea of the Spurs seeing the Clippers in the 2nd round.
didn't Chicago win @ SA ?
yep4
Yep. 96-89, Febraury 29th.
A wonderful breakdown of a very good team that should indeed benefit from the more physical intensity of the playoffs when it comes to bigs playing defense, but the bigs for the Spurs don't really do the scoring. I mean, they score, but they aren't relied on for their offense. They're relied on for their knowledge of the system and ability to pass the ball and finish on the pick and roll."A couple prolific scorers"? Yeah, and Adriana Lima is OK looking.They have the best scorer (and maybe player) in the game, to go along with the best scoring guard in the game, as well as the 6th man of the year who is also an elite scorer. They have surrounded these 3 guys with a great complement of role players. Who else do they have, you ask? Here's who they have:
Serge Ibaka- The best defensive PF in the league, the best shot blocker in the league, and at worst, the 2nd best defensive C in the league. Also a really good offensive rebounder, with a decent enough mid range game. Can score on occasion.
Thabo Sefalosha, Royal Ivey, Derek Fisher: You have two long, athletic guards who specialize in defense and 3 pointers. Royal was even a dependable 3 point shooter for OKC when he got minutes, shooting about 39% in January and February when he got regular playing time. You also have Derek Fisher, one of the most playoff-experienced guards in the league. He's at home in the playoffs.
Nick Collison, Nazr Mohammed, Kendrick Perkins: 3 big, physical guys, all guys who know how to defend the paint and rebound. These guy sdont even try to score, they just thug it up in the lane, frustrating opponent's post men, and making sure the opponent knows that OKC is not a soft, finesse team. Do not sleep on these guys, they have a role and they play it well.
Think about the Bulls of the 90's, or the Lakers and Spurs of the 2000's. What did they have? MJ, Pippen, and then a bunch of role players. The Spurs had 2 or 3 stars and a bunch of role players. The Lakers had Kobe, Shaq, and ten a bunch of role players. John Paxson, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Avery Johnson, all of these guys playoff heroes who weren't the headliners of their team. OKC has the best record (or is fighting for it) for a reason. They have the 3 core guys, and then a bunch of role players who simply do what is asked of them. Oh, they also take more FT's than anyone in the NBA, and are no.1 in FT% as a team. OKC is built to make a deep playoff run, and it's an insult to insinuate that they have "a couple prolific scorers" and not much else.
This is just off the top of my head, but I'd venture to say that the Spurs big men (Duncan, Diaw, Splitter) are easily the best passing big men in the league. They are all completely unselfish, experienced and don't $#@! around. And don't tell me Tiago Splitter isn't experienced. He's a few years removed from being the MVP of the Europe league. He has signature moves around the rim and is money on the pick and roll. His minutes and effectiveness have drastically increased this year and Pop is looking like a genius for bringing him along so slowly. Tiago Splitter is perhaps the biggest X factor in the entire NBA playoffs. If he plays well, I think the Spurs are a lock to win it all. I know Duncan and Diaw will play well. Would also like to mention that Diaw is a legit threat from 3 land, and Duncan's top of the key jumper is as pure as ever. DeJuan Blair probably won't play much, but you mentioned Nazr, so I think it's fair to throw him in the conversation.
And they all play pretty stout defense themselves. Ibaka is the only big man on OKC worth a $#@! on both sides of the ball. They aren't involved on offense, and when they touch the ball, they are poison to it. There's no doubt about that for any 3 of them, especially considering that KD, RW and Harden are out there too.
But Tony Parker has something to say about Russell Westbrook being the best scoring guard in the game. Ginobili says hi to Harden. Kwhai Leonard, Stephen Jackson and Danny Green are all scrappy, long defenders that can possibly $#@! with Durant by committee, as well as help handle Westbrook and Harden. I just like the matchup in every way for the Spurs. Gary Neal is a complete baller, as I'm sure you know Derka. Matt Bonner scares me, but I'm sure his leash will get shorter as we go deeper into the playoffs and meet more athletic, physical teams like OKC.
Would be a long series though, at least 6, probably 7 games. I just see the Spurs pulling it out.
I agree. I don't know the most recent updates on his health, but if he isnt 100% they are doomed. I don't care how many games they can win during the regular season without him, its a different game in the playoffs. I guarantee both Boston and Miami are going to be different teams in the playoffs. Rose carried the bulls by himself a few games in the playoffs last year, and he isn't doing that if he's not 100%.
Why is no one talking about the Celtics out of the East?
No disrespect to the Thunder, but they had a great draw last year. They beat the Nuggets who had a completely revamped team after the Melo trade and then they beat the 8th seed Griz in 7 games to make the WCF, where the Mavs dusted them in 5. It wasn't exactly a playoff run for the ages. Kevin Durant has a total of 23 playoff games on his resume. For comparison, Tim Duncan played 24 playoff games in the 2003 season alone. I love KD. I love the Thunder. I just don't see them as being ready to take the next step. I also don't trust Westbrook's decision making and I don't think they have enough inside scoring.
I'm not going to get into the Spurs/Thunder matchups... somebody else has already done that. But I will say that there are 3 significant differences between the Spurs of this year and last:
1. Tim Duncan is playing at his highest level in about 3 or 4 years. Whatever that dude did to his knees in Germany over the Summer worked.
2. Manu Ginobili broke his arm in the final game of the regular season last year. He's finally healthy (knock on wood) and is playing at an unbelievable level.
3. The bench is loaded. They can match up with anyone and they aren't necessarily dependent on any particular player or mix. If someone is struggling (I'm looking at you, you choke artist Matt Bonner), they can pull him and get somebody in there that is effective or ride the hot hand.
the highly erratic nature of Westbrook is the OKC's perpetual downfall. This negative can be offset by Harden taking the reigns, but will that ideal chemistry be reached on a consistent basis?
The 1st. Round will last a month, that's my prediction.
Spurs>Celtics in 6
i'll probably get neg'd, but durant shooting every 3 pointer and long 2 he ever saw is the yin to westbrook's yang.
i predict the Suns beating the Pacers in 6 in the Finals.
However, the Pacers will not make the Finals, because when they're up 3-2 against the Heat, the writing will be on the wall. Pat Riley and LeBron will make the call, and that will be that...
$#@!'s fixed.
this, Mavs has screwed the pooch this year.
I agree with this as well.
My picks...
BOS > MIA - 6 games
SA > OKC - 5 games
SA > BOS - 6 games
Last edited by hornfan785; 04-27-2012 at 12:17 AM. Reason: added # games
chicago over philly in 5
boston over atlanta in 6
indiana over orlando in 6
miami over new york in 5
san antonio over utah in 5
memphis over the clippers in 6
lakers over denver in 6
okc over dallas in 7
boston over chicago in 7
miami over indiana in 6
memphis over san antonio in 6
okc over la in 7
miami over boston in 6
okc over memphis in 7
miami over okc in 6
Chicago over Philly, obviously
Boston over Atlanta because Beantown ain't done yet, they've got a much better coach, and AB
Indiana over Orlando because the Other Van Gundy sucks and no Dwight
Miami over New York, obviously
SA over Utah, obviously
Memphis over the Clippers because Memphis rules
Denver over the Lakers because they have J-Ham among others
Oklahoma City over Dallas and Cuban's random $#@!heads of the year. Not even Dirk can overcome this.
Chicago over Boston because they have Noah who's a straight G.
Miami over Indy, obviously.
San Antonio over Memphis for revenge and they have Tony Parker.
Oklahoma City over Denver because they have KD
Miami over Chicago because LeBron ain't havin $#@! this year
OkC over SA because Durant rules
OkC over Miami because LeBron will never win a title and KD is the best player on Earth.
Them's the truth yall
Anyone have a link to the preseason picks thread?
Mavs are running out at 40:1 to win the championship. You'd be an idiot not to drop some dough on that.
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