Now I'm seriously convinced that VY is DONE as an NFL football player

[Derka Derka]

Bill Polian, who has been a tremendous success as President and GM of the Colts, just said some $#@! on ESPN that I really can't get over. Like, I've calmed down, and then I keep going back and watching it, and while I don't get as mad now when I watch it as I got in the video, I feel justified in my anger, because.....well, here, watch:

[RB Version of HenryMelton]

Can't watch video right now...

cliffnotes?

[BaylorHistory]

Yeah! $#@!!

[HenryJames]

Is there anyone we should PM about this?

[Derka Derka]

Can't watch video right now...

cliffnotes?

Bill Polian has VY in the same class as JaMarcus Russell and JP Losman, and behind Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, David Carr, etc, etc, based on their career accomplishments.

[Sleepygrad]

I'm curious to see what comments you get on youtube

[Esque]

Whoever is talking in the video pretty much laid a whole lot of truth down for a few minutes there.

[Derka Derka]

I'm curious to see what comments you get on youtube

Well, it was a knee jerk reaction video, and if I had time I'd go back and re-do it more professionally. I was so damn heated when I saw it. I'll probably disable comments now, and maybe even go back and redo it when I have time. Still just can't believe it.

[ChrisApplewhite]

I'm curious to see what comments you get on youtube

Over/under on "$#@!" is 670.5

[Greenspointexas]

Derka (just replace SI with P-Ville):

[da_clean_up_man]

Racist? Really?

[Degenerate Gardener]

Time to pick nits, because I want to avoid the depressing argument that VY is done:

Behind Matt Leinart? What has he done anywhere?

[HornsN04]

Is there anyone we should PM about this?

Devin The Dude

[Sleepygrad]

Well, it was a knee jerk reaction video, and if I had time I'd go back and re-do it more professionally. I was so damn heated when I saw it. I'll probably disable comments now, and maybe even go back and redo it when I have time. Still just can't believe it.

knee jerk doesn't mean incorrect....maybe Bill Polian jerks off to pictures of Jeff Fisher

[Lerka Lerka]

Cusswords, just let em know. Motherfuckin $#@!, God damn ass hoe. Cusswords, just don't quit. Mother$#@! you damn $#@!head bitch.

[da_clean_up_man]

There is no question that the rating is ridciulous though.

[EvilCaseMcCoy]

GMs don't know $#@!... they're just figureheads. Some intern put this $#@! together for him.

[MNLonghorn10]

while the race card was stupid....i think vince young is a C and probably will never be higher...

the D list and F list should almost be completely flipped.

[aggie08]

Dude in the video needs a life.

[mulletpelini]

is the use of the word "convince" in the title and the 2 min mark some kind of hidden massage?

[Traffic]

its the initial dismantling of a reputation based upon a bad prick as the head coach. This is all about Jeff Fisher.

[atllonghorn]

David Carr: 23-56 record, 59.7 comp pct, 65 TD, 71 INT, 74.9 rating
Brady Quinn: 3-9 record , 52.1 comp pct, 10 TD, 9 INT, 66.8 rating
Matt Leinart: 8-10 record , 57.6 comp pct, 15 TD, 20 INT, 71.6 rating
Vince Young: 31-19 record, 57.9 com pct, 46 TD, 51 INT, 74.4 rating

To say David Carr has had a better career than Vince Young is embarrassing. To say Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart have had better careers than Vince Young is just mind-numbingly stupid.

[Mizzou415]

There is no question that the rating is ridciulous though.

Agreed. I think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of Vince as an NFL QB and I think he's generally vasty overrated as an NFL QB on this board but based on the players listed, he should have been a 'C'. Rating him an 'F' is absurd.

[cale]

Don't worry about it, nobody thinks Bill Polian knows anything.

[Mike_Tyson]

You lesserthans! I'm old south!

That D list is a joke in juxtaposition with Vince being in the F. I suppose ROY and Pro-Bowl appearances do not count for much. Ryan and Stafford should both be Bs.

[borna_horn]

What do you expect from the guy who gave Kerry Collins a starting job last year.

[H34TX]

never heard of the guy. If he dies, will anyone care?

[WhoooTex]

is the use of the word "convince" in the title and the 2 min mark some kind of hidden massage?

i'd like a hidden massage

[HousHorn09]

$#@! Bill Polian. No seriously... $#@! him.

[Wade Garrett]

Care? They'll burn cars and loot stores.

[VY_myHero]

I thoroughly enjoyed that. Well done, Derka.

[Bevo14]

Jesus Tittyfuckin Christ, that list is an abomination

[VYFanboy]

As successful as Polian has been, it's not like he's had to evaluate many starting QBs. He came to Buffalo as the USFL folded and their #1 pick from three years earlier finally showed up (Jim Kelly). He picked Kerry Collins in Carolina. To be fair, he didn't miss on any big QB with that one. Finally, he chose right between Peyton and Ryan Leaf.

In his two biggest stops as GM, he basically walked into a Hall of Fame, Franchise QB.

Of course the list is stupid. VY will get his shot.

[da_clean_up_man]

Agreed. I think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of Vince as an NFL QB and I think he's generally vasty overrated as an NFL QB on this board but based on the players listed, he should have been a 'C'. Rating him an 'F' is absurd.

Yep, no need to discuss it further or get all up in arms about it. We can all agree on the F being just plain stupid.

[Pistol Pete's Mustache]

He mad.

But seriously, that list is pretty messed up. VY is a C at worst with regard to the names on that list. Should probably be a b. Jamarcus Russell needs a ranking of his own. It's not fair for anyone to be on a list with him.

[da_clean_up_man]

He mad.

But seriously, that list is pretty messed up. VY is a C at worst with regard to the names on that list. Should probably be a b. Jamarcus Russell needs a ranking of his own. It's not fair for anyone to be on a list with him.

Yep, VY should be somewhere between B/C

Agree on Russell. He should be a S for Sizzurp

[Chad]

Time to pick nits, because I want to avoid the depressing argument that VY is done:

Behind Matt Leinart? What has he done anywhere?

Sucked $#@! and got benched for a 40 year old QB and that's about it.

[Ruffian]

Would watch again. And Derka, my dear, you are never "at a loss for words."

[catdaddyhorn]

Bill Polian, who has been a tremendous success as President and GM of the Colts, just said some $#@! on ESPN that I really can't get over. Like, I've calmed down, and then I keep going back and watching it, and while I don't get as mad now when I watch it as I got in the video, I feel justified in my anger, because.....well, here, watch:

How the hell did he give Carson Palmer an A? I swear "certain QBs" get so much latitude and benefit of the doubt irrespective of what they actually do on the field that it's a wonder whether or not we're watching the same sport.

[FCHorn]

i'd like a hidden massage

Keep those hands in your pants then...you'll receive a magic gift in just under 2 minutes...

[Brock Rockswell]

GMs don't know $#@!... they're just figureheads. Some intern put this $#@! together for him.

[Tyrone Biggums]

VY will be on another team once the nfl draft is over. Thats all im waiting for right now.

[longhornsgirl]

Great job Derka, I loved the commentary. Although I disagree with you on Sanchez, a C is about right for him.

[VYFanboy]

I'm pretty sure the whole segment was just a ruse to list Tebow as incomplete.

[Gurrry]

100% agree derka. keep preaching, playa.

theres no $#@!ing way that VY is worse than a C.

[slorch]

Well, it was a knee jerk reaction video, and if I had time I'd go back and re-do it more professionally. I was so damn heated when I saw it. I'll probably disable comments now, and maybe even go back and redo it when I have time. Still just can't believe it.

You might have a face for radio, but pretty damned good voice. More intelligent than I expected...

If he's an idiot, he's an idiot. It's not racism.

Hard to argue with Polian's results. He's probably just really lucky, as in- the anti-Jerrah GM.

[catdaddyhorn]

You might have a face for radio, but pretty damned good voice. More intelligent than I expected...

If he's an idiot, he's an idiot. It's not racism.

Hard to argue with Polian's results. He's probably just really lucky, as in- the anti-Jerrah GM.

We're seeing Polian's results right now in Indy. Peyton carried that deficient roster for 10 years.

[slorch]

Joe Montana carried Bill Walsh.

See how that works?

[Austin]

How the hell did he give Carson Palmer an A? I swear "certain QBs" get so much latitude and benefit of the doubt irrespective of what they actually do on the field that it's a wonder whether or not we're watching the same sport.

My thoughts as well. Even Joe Flacco. Yes Flacco took his teams to the playoffs, but that was more due to the sick D and Ray Rice. Would anyone in the NFL have Flacco over Stafford? (Who he rated a C) List makes absolutely no sense.

[Dutchrudder]

Wow, that list is retarded. The A listers are just stupid. He has Super Bowl winners Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Ben Rothlesberger in the same group as Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler, Carson Palmer and Phillip Rivers. Matt Ryan has completely failed in the playoffs so far, Flacco hasn't done much (though his defense did well), Cutler is 1-1, Palmer is 0-2, and Rivers beat the Colts a few times when it counted. Guys like that belong in the next group down in my opinion. I think Rivers is the only one who should be in discussion for an A grade.

I have been noticing a trend among NFL analysts though, they tend to smudge the line between elite and good QBs to include a bunch of QBs that don't deserve it. Polian is clearly giving guys like Cutler and Ryan some points for potential, which is unnecessary. Either they have "it" or they don't, and I don't think either one has "it." All those guys should be B's at best, and Stafford should be bumped up to B with potential to move up. VY should be at least a C at worst, Lienart F, Quinn F, Leftwich F, Carr F, and Polian gets an F. No wonder the Colts fired him, he probably had Tannehill as the #1 QB in this draft.