The video and the story telling style of the lyrics of that Danny Brown song reminds me a lot of What's Up Fatlip from like 2000:
Quality $#@!ing sucks, even though it looks like it's on the label's channel.
Last edited by thrillhouse; 06-16-2012 at 08:50 AM.
plus all those rappers you mention who dont put out mixtapes don't release them because they're big names. mixtapes don't exist out of pure ego or just serve as a way for a rapper to get better at their craft, they're as a promotional tool to get their names out there. i mean even kanye put out mixtapes man.
Last edited by thrillhouse; 06-16-2012 at 09:07 AM.
FOR THE DEFENDERS OF OLD SCHOOL RAP, I FINALLY GET IT
I went and saw this award winning documentary Ice T put out that finally had a national release yesterday called 'The Art of Rap'
Here's what I finally get; it's an art form NOT just a form of entertainment. This explains a lot of the butt hurtedness of many real artists and their fans, they can't stand how much attention (and fame/money) a lot of these no talent ass clowns get these days.
What they fail to understand though is that great artistic rap does NOT always equal entertaining rap, and conversely entertaining rap does NOT mean it is great artistically.
This fact will NEVER be reconciled, therefore rappers have to be evaluated on many levels and why these debates end up being a series of circular arguments
Last edited by Derka Derka; 06-16-2012 at 12:17 PM.
Basically, I take from this entire thread that youre not even old enough to drink and have no $#@!ing clue what you're talking about.
Last edited by Derka Derka; 06-16-2012 at 12:19 PM.
or more precisely...For those that think Hov' fingers bling bling'n
Either haven't heard the album or they don't know english
They only know what the single is, and singled that out
to be the meaning of what he is about
And bein I'm about my business, not minglin much
runnin my mouth, that $#@! kept lingerin
But no dummy, that's the $#@! I'm sprinklin
The album width to keep the registers ringin
I dumb down for my audience, double my dollars
Get criticized for it, but they all yell ‘holla’
breaking news: dumb guy says dumb things on the internet about a genre and culture he doesn't fully understand
starts @ :40
Last edited by thrillhouse; 06-17-2012 at 08:15 AM.
I love Meek Mill. I was late on him in that I only started paying attention to him last summer on the MMG "Self Made" (which was solid by the way) but I've really enjoyed what he's been putting out.
It is a shame that on the Drake Club Paradise Tour he had to go on so early as lots of folks missed him and he was way better than $#@!ing J Cole. God I hate J Cole
Purple Swag Htown All Stars was a step in the right direction though. But the Purple Swag song shouldn't have had an official release without a Houston artist on it though.
I know I would rather listen to an artist mixtape before their actual album. Artist normally have 100% creative control of their mixtape. Artist normally have 0-50% control over their official album. Without mixtapes we would have missed a lot of great music from a number of artist. Mixtapes are a good thing.
Last edited by neverwenttoUT; 06-17-2012 at 11:12 AM.
can't let this irony go unsaid any longer but i love how one of derka's favorite recent albums is a mixtape.
Rap going mainstream, along with the internet and it's music downlaoding/sharing capabilities have watered down the genre in a major way. In the 90's you had to depend on record sales to make money, especially with the way all of these young black dudes were getting boned by the Jews running the record companies. So many awful record deals signed in the 90's. Anyway, in the 90's you didn't have every white girl from middle-upper class America aged 11 and up buying rap albums, and having rap as their favorite music. So in the 90's, you had a much smaller market of people who were actually gonna give your $#@! the time of day if you didnt bring it the way Pac, Bone, Biggie, Nas, etc brought it. Now you can rap like a retarded kid on benzos and have a following full of people who "relate" to you. You used to HAVE to be good to be a really popular/successful rapper. That $#@! ended years ago though.
Last edited by Derka Derka; 06-17-2012 at 08:47 PM.
well the one I was talking about is actually A$AP's so i just ignored the rest of that post after i read j cole.
replace J Cole and FNL with ASAP Rock and LLA, and the entire post still stands. And this is what I'm talking about. You think you caught some sort of irony in what I've said, when the reality is that your lack of reading comprehension has come back to bite you in this ass. You said it was ironic that one of my favorite recent albums was a mixtape (completely missing the point, which you would have realized had you kept reading), and instead of taking the time to read my post like an adult, you come back with the exact sort of juvenile retort I accuse of you in my post. All the while, you still don't get that there's nothing ironic at all about liking 2 mixtapes while disliking the takeover of mixtapes over albums.And to expound on an earlier point, I truly don't believe you're beyond your teenage years. You speak as if every opinion of yours is fact, when faced with opposition you rarely try and provide and sort of real opinion or info, instead just telling others their opinion doesnt count, and you display a pretty ridiculous lack of reading comprehension with this perceived "irony" you've discovered but left unsaid.
So anyway, how was prom this year? Did you get laid?
Last edited by Derka Derka; 06-17-2012 at 10:26 PM.
this $#@! keeps going in circles im done with it.
crazy verse from kendrick at the end of this one. i like this maybach music.
Last edited by thrillhouse; 06-17-2012 at 10:44 PM.
If you're actually done acting like a juvenile know-it-all then thank God.
Ultimately it is a personal and emotional opinion on what you value in "art" and that's where I was coming from when I said that at the end of the day, I see your position as too firmly couched in emotion, perspective and taste that "arguing" about it on a messageboard isnt going to be productive. IMO, this is further proven, to me at least, with you and thrillhouse who have taken a musical disagreement (or two) personal and have taken to name calling and derision, for some reason.
tuffest lady going at it right now. love how she's hooking up with british bass music producers too.
i mean i'd say you came with the $#@!ty attitude first, unprovoked, but whatever dude.
A very interesting move. It speaks volumes that Dre wants to work with him but I think he is too raw and if he is bound for success it isn't going to be as an artist but more of a persona. Being young, reppin Chicago, being wild etc etc....
I thought Young Money would have been a no brainer for him, follow in Wayne's footsteps who was signed really young AND have a bunch of artists you can work with and be on one another's $#@!. Oh well, will be interesting to see how his career unfolds.
FWIW if you are a 'hot' unsigned artist right now and just want money I can't see signing with anyone other than MMG or YMCMB because of the buzz you generate with that affiliation
Also, as Derka pointed out earlier, in the big picture the labels don't care who you sign with because it all flows downhill to one of four rich as $#@! jewish guys.
I love how all these "self made" gangstas like Dre, Birdman, Ross, etc etc etc claim to own labels and $#@!. You don't own $#@!. If the old white jew who owns the distribution channel decided to sit on your $#@!, not a damn thing you could do about it. iTunes ain't making the checks out to Rick Ross, $#@! gets skimmed a few times before he gets it.
i mean you posted some incredibly inflammatory $#@! in that post i called ignorant and i mean it totally is an ignorant post.
Last edited by thrillhouse; 06-18-2012 at 02:52 PM.
Real talk. Everybody pretty much knows Jimmy Iovine runs this rap $#@!.Also, as Derka pointed out earlier, in the big picture the labels don't care who you sign with because it all flows downhill to one of four rich as $#@! jewish guys.
Last edited by Hornmatic; 06-18-2012 at 07:17 PM.
This is pretty much the archetype of what people hate about the current hot artists but I love this track and it could be the jam of the summer
French Montana, Drake, Ross, Wayne running a 2LiveCrew beat
This $#@! has me rollin. Good vibe
Trae da truth got shot last night. He is ok though. Dinky D, and Poppa C(members of ABN) were killed though. Violence just seems to find Trae whereever he goes. He just lost Clip D(member of ABN) not to long ago.
Guess folks are mad that he won't step aside.
yeah, just read, $#@! is crazy. RIP.
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