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    One WR left: Massington, Samples, Rhodes?

    Which one do you want and why?

    It seems we are taking one more WR in this class along with Oliver and Warrick. We have already offered Samples but he seems not interested for some reason and has a broken foot. He still could commit, but with us looking at Massington and Rhodes now, which one do you want?

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    Rhodes.

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    Rhodes is coming to campus to visit. Massington has impressive speed at his size, but may be raw.

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    Massington -- size and speed is there, still has a year of high school and probably 1-2 years at UT before having to step into the offense

    I'm not sold on Samples, since he got a lot of attention taken away from him by Thomas Johnson. Being the lead man next year will show his true colors.

    Robbie Rhodes, imo, will end up transferring after never seeing the field. I just don't see it in him to get a starting gig. I know I'm not giving much insight on why, but I don't think he's all that good.

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    1a) Samples -- more well-rounded skillset (blocking, carrying, etc) than the others. He's got the best looking routes and he's much more polished than the other two.
    1b) Massington -- the best physical specimen, but he isn't as good running with the ball and his route-running needs a lot of work.
    3) Rhodes -- he's a somewhere between the two. Not as skilled as Samples and not as athletic as Massington. In my opinion, he's the least likely to be a fresh/soph impact player.

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    Massington is starting to remind me of Cobi Hamilton out of Texarkana. I think he'll be a very good college WR, just don't know if he'll be great. I really like Rhodes a lot. I think his talent level is comparable to Kendall Wright. Of the line, he's as good as there is and he creates good separation. And despite his size, his ball skills are elite when it's a jump ball type.

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    Samples is still a heavy Texas lean.
    Massington is size and speed and would be an awesome get
    Rhodes is talented but extremely raw.

    That's my order.

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    good thread topic.

    i think we're still in it for samples too. he's more polished than warrick but they're alot alike in their skill sets i think. massington is mr everything on paper, i'd think he's got the highest ceiling for sure...he would need time with wyatt to become a bigtime player. i like the kendall wright sort of comp for rhodes cause he just eats up cushion like a mother. i think massington could be the same way but his small area quickness isn't the same as rhodes. gonna go w. massington because i think we can afford to gamble on him panning out and he's got the highest ceiling.

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    whoever has the best hands. that's been the ut bug-a-boo, too many great athletes that can't catch trying to play WR.

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    For comparison

    Eldridge Massington


    Robbie Rhodes


    Ra'Shaad Samples

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    Quote Originally Posted by bularry View Post
    whoever has the best hands. that's been the ut bug-a-boo, too many great athletes that can't catch trying to play WR.
    The real bug-a-boo is taking guys who are terrible at getting seperation. Getting seperation is more important than speed.


    IMO Rhodes is better than Samples and Massington off the LOS. He creates as good as seperation as Samples. Massington is the biggest project of the 3.


    Take Rhodes and he will flourish IMO due to seperation and size. He has more bulk than Samples and runs as good as routes as him.

    On a side not Rhodes QB is $#@!ing terrible.
    Last edited by BurntOrange&White; 04-26-2012 at 12:36 PM.

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    Tough to compare a slot WR with and SE

    Seems like every play on most of those videos was a simple go or post route. Only Samples had out routes and comebacks. Those are the types of receivers we need. Some one who can get open. Not someone who jogs down the field and wins a jump ball (not a slight of anyone, but just an observation of highlights).

    Massington reminds me of a fast John Harris (blocking ability is there given his size).

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    I read on another site (BON maybe?) that Massington is originally from California and is really really really wanting a USC offer and that he'll be theirs the second if he's offered. Even if committed to someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everybodygodeep View Post
    Tough to compare a slot WR with and SE
    Rhodes would make the best SE as of now because he's better off the line than Massington and bigger than Samples.

    But this is why we have Jake Oliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmatt View Post
    I read on another site (BON maybe?) that Massington is originally from California and is really really really wanting a USC offer and that he'll be theirs the second if he's offered. Even if committed to someone else.
    Gerry clarified that this morning. He has family in Cali and really like USC, but he's not from there.

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    1. Rhodes
    2. Massington
    3. Samples

    I just don't see it with Samples. Granted my opinion is based off grainy highlight film, but Rhodes looks explosive and natural catching the ball...even when the ball is thrown behind him or 5 yards off target.

    Samples just looks awkward when catching the ball (hand placement, etc.).

    I'd take a gamble on Massington before Samples just to see what he can grow into. That and the fact his name is Eldridge Massington. That's a tea sipper right there.

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    How does the competition they play against stack up? All 5A?

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    Here's my beef, if we want(ed) Samples, why did we offer Warrick? Both are prototypical 5'11 slot guys. I just don't get it. I know they are quick and have moves but do we really need more slot receivers that won't have much of a chance to be an every down guy? We got Daje last year and 5'10 who will most probably play there due to his size/speed but also to set up jet sweeps and other trickery, then we also have Shipley/Sander (both 6'1) and Davis (6'2) who could take over that spot too. And while I like Onyegbule, Harris, and Jackson; does anyone really see them as an every down solution?

    M Johnson, C. Jones, and Oliver will help fill in that gap but I'd love to get another tall receiver as our number 3 (4 if you count RSJ) to help. Which is why I think 6'3 Massington over 5'11 Samples is a no brainer. NTM the fact that Samples seems to enjoy the spotlight a bit too much and may want to have a big NSD deal and/or will decommit (like TJ) after he stops getting all the love from our fans. While most HS kids love the attention, he's taking it to a new level, just check out his twitter if you want to know what I'm talking about, it just reeks of narcissism.

    If its true that Massington will bolt for USC then I'd have to rethink this, and honestly I haven't done enough research on Rhodes to choose one over the other but if it was simply Massington v Samples I think we need to go for the big wide out and not the quick slot guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVegasHorn26 View Post
    How does the competition they play against stack up? All 5A?
    Not all 5A, but the competition is about the same.

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    Massington says it's not too late for Texas, but they've gotta repair relationship. He felt "disrespected" by not getting offered at JD2.
    19 minutes ago

    When USC doesn't offer immediately, it's understandable. When Texas doesn't, it's "disrespect." what a punk.

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    I'll take Lord Eldridge of Massington and give him a bottle of Massengil to wash that sand out of his pussy. Then watch him become a faster Limas Sweed. Also, based on those highlights I would never throw a bubble screen to him.

    I don't like the Samples offer. Duplicates Warrick's skillset but with less speed. Not sure he gets the early offer if his dad's not a coach.

    Rhodes might also duplicate Warrick, but if Case McCoy is ever again throwing passes in a game, he'd have instant chemistry because his HS QB looks like a southpaw version of ol' noodle arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urinal Cake View Post
    Massington says it's not too late for Texas, but they've gotta repair relationship. He felt "disrespected" by not getting offered at JD2.
    19 minutes ago
    Where's this from? I remember some quotes immediately after the JD2 trip stating that the no offer didn't bother him and he was excited to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Flood View Post
    Where's this from? I remember some quotes immediately after the JD2 trip stating that the no offer didn't bother him and he was excited to be there.
    Max Olson twitter

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    Samples is good but he just screams "injury prone career." He just about destroyed his ankle in a non-contact drill at nike camp. Not a good sign.

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    Samples is good but he just screams "injury prone career." He just about destroyed his ankle in a non-contact drill at nike camp. Not a good sign.
    He's broken the same ankle twice in high school.

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    Samples, mainly because of his dad. Though there is a downside to that as well...

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    Best case then: Samples goes to OU and finds that he hates playing hurt and eating vomit. Papa turned off by whole loam pilfering experience. Meanwhile we "settle" for Massington who goes on to tear it up.

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    I think we can afford the gamble on Massington. The guy is a physical freak. However, I wouldn't be upset if we offered Rhodes instead. No disrespect to Samples, but I just don't see it. A 5'11 160lb receiver that has already had 2 very severe ankles injuries.... no thank you.

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    Every coach who went o see tj came away loving samples. Thet just feel he has it. Warrick could play db.

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    Aren't there some out of staters that have size, speed and route running ability? Maybe in state we already have the two best and then see a falloff.

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    I want Samples as I am not impressed at all by the other two receivers. I'm so sick of us going all out for "potential" or "freakishness" and then the jackass can't even catch the ball. Samples has hands and can run routes, this is all I want and its all we need.

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    I put my thoughts out there on this topic on Hookem.com in February at the link below, but I'll repeat them here since Texas needs WR help and they're not aggressively addressing it.


    "Seems like neither Rhodes or Samples are accomplished on route running, which is no surprise. They seem like similar players and not that dissimilar to Warrick in Houston. I like Rhodes more than Samples, by a lot, really, but what Samples brings to the table in regard to the pipeline and such cannot be denied. I think Samples is James Kirkendoll at the top end in college, which would enthuse some folks, but not me. As a 5th receiver or a guy off the bench with a good depth chart, it's easy to say he'd be fine at Texas. If he ever had to start, it would be disconcerting. Rhodes looks like he has a higher ceiling, better quicks, more tenacity. Like I said, though, I'd take them both.

    As to Massington, well, he can certainly run a go route. Geez. That's 75% of his film. I see a Bobby Kennedy recruit, based on the limited Hudl footage. I don't think I am being reactionary. He's not particularly fast, he's big, he has good high point ball skills it seems, and he's flawed in other ways. He is frequently given the inside read by the corner covering him, yet he prefers to stay outside. I don't know if the route is perhaps not a read, but I doubt it. He's the X receiver in single coverage and the first option on a number of those plays. It's a read. The CB opens his shoulder & hips to the outside, begging for the inside post to be run, and Massington stays outside and simply tries to outrun and outhop the DB. No thanks. That isn't a matter of not knowing how to run the right route, that is preferring to avoid hearing the footsteps of a safety before a head-on collision. Maybe that is harsh, but that's what I see. I would prefer Texas look elsewhere than ever offer this guy. I am sure he'll be fine for the right team, though."


    http://texas.247sports.com/Board/21/...oard-8143940/1

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    Massington's film reminds me of Jeff Fuller. If I was paid 5 mil per year to coach football, that's who I'd take.

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    Take the one with the basketball phenom brother - Rick needs some help.

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    I completely agree. Judging from those films alone I think Rhodes is #1 and it's not that close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TULAUS View Post
    Massington's film reminds me of Jeff Fuller. If I was paid 5 mil per year to coach football, that's who I'd take.
    The guy who went undrafted today?

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    Another recent quote from Massington re: Texas.

    “They'd have some work to do if they offered,” Massington said. “The main thing I'd want to know is why. Why wait until now to possibly offer me? That's what I'd really want to know.”

    The more this kid opens his mouth, the more I hope we don't offer him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVegasHorn26 View Post
    Another recent quote from Massington re: Texas.

    “They'd have some work to do if they offered,” Massington said. “The main thing I'd want to know is why. Why wait until now to possibly offer me? That's what I'd really want to know.”

    The more this kid opens his mouth, the more I hope we don't offer him.
    Agreed, and it's part of why I think they wind up with Rhodes. Texas needs to hard sell Rhodes and lock the guy up.

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    USC is visiting Massington today per IT.

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    Honestly, none of the three impresses me very much, but if pressed, I say go with Rhodes.

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    Again, why are we not going out of state for the 3rd WR in the class? If we just had 2 commitments, we wouldn't be lost. So, in my opinion, we should go for an elite OOS or JUCO.

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    For #USC fans, I think the #Trojans offer Rivals250 WR Eldridge Massington soon and I think he commits on the spot. That's his clear No. 1

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    BAMA and USC offered Massington today

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