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    Scott Brown's opponent in Massachusetts

    apparently is an affirmative action fraud....but her colleagues are trying to cover for her:

    http://bostonherald.com/news/us_poli...eid=1061128421



    Elizabeth Warren’s embattled campaign: Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago
    Cherokee tie found 5 generations ago

    By Hillary Chabot | Tuesday, May 1, 2012 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Election 2012

    Photo by Chitose Suzuki


    Desperately scrambling to validate Democrat Elizabeth Warren’s Native American heritage amid questions about whether she used her minority status to further her career, the Harvard Law professor’s campaign last night finally came up with what they claim is a Cherokee connection — her great-great-great-grandmother.
    “She would be 1⁄32nd of Elizabeth Warren’s total ancestry,” noted genealogist Christopher Child said, referring to the candidate’s great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, who is listed on an Oklahoma marriage certificate as Cherokee. Smith is an ancestor on Warren’s mother’s side, Child said.
    The missing link comes after Warren’s embattled campaign faced sharp questions about her Native American background in the wake of Herald stories that showed both Harvard Law School and Warren herself had touted her tribal lineage and claimed she was a member of a minority for years.
    Warren’s shaken campaign faced another crisis yesterday when it was revealed that beginning in 1986 and continuing through 1995, Warren had listed herself as a minority professor in the Association of American Law Schools desk book, a directory of law professors from participating schools.


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    Warren had flatly denied that she ever touted her Native American background professionally.
    Child — who originally could find no Native American lineage in Warren’s family when the Herald broke the story last Friday — said he uncovered a marriage certificate at 4 p.m. yesterday after fielding calls from countless media outlets and even Warren’s own campaign.
    Child said he plans on further verifying the records today. “There is a possibility that their Native American ancestry could have been hidden at one point,” he said.
    The campaign also hastily produced an undated newspaper clip last night from the Muskogee Sunday Phoenix detailing a “Mrs. James P. Rowsey” — who they said is Warren’s cousin — and her involvement with the Five Civilized Tribes Museum, which is dedicated to preserving Native American art.
    “Mrs. James P. Rowsey was Elizabeth’s first cousin — shared the grandparents in question,” a campaign official said in the statement.
    Meanwhile, Warren’s camp issued statements from five faculty members at the four universities where she’s taught, including Harvard Law School and University of Pennsylvania, to knock down any suggestion she used her Native American background to get hired.
    “To suggest that she needed some special advantage to be hired here or anywhere is just silly. She was hired for her great abilities as a teacher and a scholar. Her family tree had nothing to do with it,” wrote Jay Westbrook, chairman of the business law school at the University of Texas at Austin, who hired Warren.
    Suzan Shown Harjo, a former executive director of the National Congress of American Indians, expressed outrage yesterday after learning that Warren had identified herself as a Native American on law school records without documentation.
    “If you believe you are these things then that’s fine and dandy, but that doesn’t give you the right to claim yourself as Native American,” said Harjo, who said Warren might have taken a job another Native American could have received.
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    She's apparently being accused of being an affirmative action fraud. I'm sure that's what you meant to say as you wait until all the facts are in, as I'm sure you wouldn't want to rush to judgment.

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    only one way to tell if she's really an indian. Give her a pint of whiskey and see what happens.

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    The Missing Link comes after Warren...
    Slanderous

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    Scott Brown's still going to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NameAlreadyInUse View Post
    Scott Brown's still going to lose.
    You'd think. It is Mass after all.

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    Nobody, and I mean nobody, has gotten a worse deal than Indians. Not African-Americans, not Hispanics, not Japanese Americans who lived through internment camps. No group met a more horrific fate than these folks. However, I think I'm done with the term Native Americans. That term implies they were always here. Now, were they here first? And by a tens of thousands of years? Yep. Absolutely. And credence be given to this fact-YES! However, let's not act like every ethnic group and/or color of human spontaneously appeared all over the globe at the exact same time. Every group displaced the group they found when they got where they were headed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCruiser View Post
    Nobody, and I mean nobody, has gotten a worse deal than Indians. Not African-Americans, not Hispanics, not Japanese Americans who lived through internment camps. No group met a more horrific fate than these folks. However, I think I'm done with the term Native Americans. That term implies they were always here. Now, were they here first? And by a tens of thousands of years? Yep. Absolutely. And credence be given to this fact-YES! However, let's not act like every ethnic group and/or color of human spontaneously appeared all over the globe at the exact same time. Every group displaced the group they found when they got where they were headed.
    So 500 years is your cutoff point?

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    To be "native", I think you'd have to have been somewhere for at least 5,000 years. Now, if you want to be "Primary Americans", meaning you were hear before the current field of "Others", I think just a few centuries would qualify. Spaniards would be Secondary Americans. Brits and French would be tertiary americans. And then, I lose count...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Knight View Post
    So 500 years is your cutoff point?
    Bad cutoff. I'm pretty sure no one here 500 years ago is still alive.

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    that bitch can suck my $#@!ing peace pipe. my grandmother was 100% native/primary/whatever american but wouldn't allow any of her lineage to get a tribe i.d. because she was adopted. she pretty much made it clear that only a $#@!et would try to capitalize on the hardships of a culture that we ourselves would never even remotely experience. but hey... good for the whore that may or may not be 1/32 cherokee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NameAlreadyInUse View Post
    Scott Brown's still going to lose.
    maybe so, maybe no.

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    My SIL is 1/8 injun, but she's never registered with her grandma's tribe.

    She could get a lot of free $#@! if she did, but she probably agrees with Angus's grandma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armybrat View Post
    My SIL is 1/8 injun, but she's never registered with her grandma's tribe.

    She could get a lot of free $#@! if she did, but she probably agrees with Angus's grandma.
    she should start a casino. you'd probably be her best customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armybrat View Post
    My SIL is 1/8 injun, but she's never registered with her grandma's tribe.

    She could get a lot of free $#@! if she did, but she probably agrees with Angus's grandma.
    I'm 1/16. Maybe I should register and get that $#@!in' paper!

    Seriously, though, I haven't registered because I recently found out and think receiving any kind of compensation for it, while I don't identify as a native American nor have I met any of my ancestors, would feel fraudulent.

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    Clearly, she isn't really Native American (enough) or else her campaign would have accused Brown of being racist instead of just sexist:

    Warren’s campaign manager, Mindy Myers, suggested that Brown was trying to gain political points, and insinuated that there was a sexist aspect to these questions about Warren’s ancestry- though she stopped short of lobbing the accusation outright.

    “Once again, the qualifications and ability of a woman are being called into question by Scott Brown who did the same thing with the Supreme Court nomination of Elena Kagan. It’s outrageous,” Myers said in a statement.
    Last edited by longhornmatt; 05-01-2012 at 03:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhornmatt View Post
    Warren’s campaign manager, Mindy Myers, suggested that Brown was trying to gain political points, and insinuated that there was a sexist aspect to these questions about Warren’s ancestry- though she stopped short of lobbing the accusation outright.

    “Once again, the qualifications and ability of a woman are being called into question by Scott Brown who did the same thing with the Supreme Court nomination of Elena Kagan. It’s outrageous,” Myers said in a statement.
    Was this $#@! complaining three years ago when her side torched Palin in to oblivion? Prrooobbbably not. The sexist/racist card by the left has to be too worn out to even read at some point.

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    Maybe I'll send Warren a squawbuck for her campaign.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NameAlreadyInUse View Post
    Scott Brown's still going to lose.
    Where are the polls at?

    And by polls I mean ones that don't over sample Dems by 20% and claim it as legit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Bang View Post
    only one way to tell if she's really an indian. Give her a pint of whiskey and see what happens.
    +1

    Warren is from Oklahoma originally so she probably is Indian. Besides, the bar to be considered legally Indian is fairly low.

    Where's the controversy here?

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    If she's Indian why don't she have one a dem red polker-dots on her forehead?

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    Under the City of Austin's MBE policy they consider either 1/16 or 1/32 enough of a taint to make you a minority. I can't remember which.

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    Pictured: a wild-eyed savage delighting in the destruction of the civilization of the West; and a Cherokee warrior, ca. 1836

    (h/t ace of spades)

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    ^^^^^

    Not sure if serious. He is an actor with no injun blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua Buddha View Post
    +1

    Warren is from Oklahoma originally so she probably is Indian. Besides, the bar to be considered legally Indian is fairly low.

    Where's the controversy here?
    Apparently you didn't read the article.

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    Warren had a genuine opportunity to stick it to those (in both parties) that $#@!ed this country up royally. Rather than going the Ron Paul route, she started toeing the Blue Team party line. It's a shame.

    As for her Native American claim, it's not exactly the same as what Ward Churchill pretended to be - so I don't care.

    The bigger shame is her running away from what she could have been (even if I don't agree with her solutions, she understood the problem).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armybrat View Post
    Apparently you didn't read the article.
    Yes I did and she's Indian. The bar is lower than you think.

    “She would be 1⁄32nd of Elizabeth Warren’s total ancestry,” noted genealogist Christopher Child said, referring to the candidate’s great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, who is listed on an Oklahoma marriage certificate as Cherokee. Smith is an ancestor on Warren’s mother’s side, Child said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua Buddha View Post
    Yes I did and she's Indian. The bar is lower than you think.
    I think you need to read a little further into the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua Buddha View Post
    Yes I did and she's Indian. The bar is lower than you think.
    She's Indian??? really?

    Pray tell her voluminous Indian background and works and whatnot?

    Jesus $#@!ing Christ talk about a fraud of the first order and you defend her like it's a family member...she's a $#@!ing fraud...know when to call it quits...

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    GW Bush & Obama are cousins. So when's the family reunion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua Buddha View Post
    Yes I did and she's Indian. The bar is lower than you think.
    Holy $#@!. That mean's I'm an Indian. 1/64th Choctaw, baby. Where's my check?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clear lake horn View Post
    Holy $#@!. That mean's I'm an Indian. 1/64th Choctaw, baby. Where's my check?
    It's on its way. Just wait there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FCHorn View Post
    She's Indian??? really?

    Pray tell her voluminous Indian background and works and whatnot?

    Jesus $#@!ing Christ talk about a fraud of the first order and you defend her like it's a family member...she's a $#@!ing fraud...know when to call it quits...
    yea i'm gonna have to agree with this guy^^ i dunno... maybe the bar has been lowered since my grandmother explained the tribal registration (or whatever it's called), but i don't think anything under 1/16 would qualify for cherokee. and i'm $#@!ing 100% positive if you utilize the full resources of a campaign staff and the best you can come up with is maybe 1/32 then you probably should have just left that box unchecked.

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    So we now have White Hispanics and White Indians?

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    One of my college roommates was one half Commanche and he received all kinds of government bennies including free college. I am 1/64th Cherokee so I was interested in qualifying. No such luck. You had to be on the government Indian Roll. To get on it you had to me a member of a qualifying tribe, and each tribe had rules. I was never clear what rules were set by tribes and what rules were set by the government but generally you had to be descended from somebody on the Indian Roll, and at least one fourth Indian. (Everybody said Indian, including my roommate, his dad and his Indian buddies.) You could be one hundred percent Indian but if your ancestors lived off the reservation when the Indian Rolls were created you were $#@! out of luck. This was about 1971 so I'm sure it's all changed, but at the time those on the Indian Roll were interested in ensuring that their progeny got bennies but weren't interested in expanding to include all the TahoeHorns and Elizabeth Warrens out there.

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    Anything that shines light on what a farce academia is is good. I had Westbrook in law school, and don't doubt he's telling the truth about her (though being a good teacher by law school standards is a low bar indeed). But when academia becomes about PC - and legal academia is regular academia on steroids - then there will be absurdities like this.

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    They are now referring to Elizabeth Warren as faux-cahontas.

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    Or Taxawagea.

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    Geroni-ho?

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Foosters Galore again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Bang View Post
    only one way to tell if she's really an indian. Give her a pint of whiskey and see what happens.
    Thats racist against us Irish people. We're brutal drunks too.

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    If she calls it fire water she might be legit...otherwise she's white as me.

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    Stupid things Democrats think and say.

    Warren: My Grandfather Had High Cheekbones 'Like All the Indians Do'

    Speaking to a reporter on a local news station in Boston, Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts cited her ancestor's "high cheekbones" (quoting an aunt) as evidence of her Native American heritage
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...do_643103.html

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    High cheekbones....low moral standards....

    What a joke she is...

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    Jeezuz, this Warren chick is a case. What's the difference between:


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