Watching Van der Wiel against the Danes at Euro 2012...kid really loves to attack, and damn near matched Robben for pace on an overlap.
I had just about talked myself into getting on board with Torres as our primary CF next season, and then I watched the end of Spain vs. Italy. On the one hand, he did a good job of creating chances for himself.
On the other hand, he looked like a 13 year old fumbling with his first bra strap every time he tried to finish.
Hulk is a bigger priority in my mind at this point. I had considered him more of a luxury, but I think we flat out need him now. We need a plan B if Fernando is going to $#@! himself every time he has a chance to score.
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As for Muller, I think he's an interesting guy. He'd certainly be a good option as we look to bolster our midfield. I think there are a lot of guys that I'd like to see us take a look at there (M'Vila, Fellaini, Modric, Javi Martinez, Strootman, etc) before next season kicks off. Muller generally plays a more forward position on the pitch, so I'm not sure who's minutes he would end up taking. He basically plays in Mata's spot now, and I don't see him being good to get any regular time with the first time in that spot.
None of those guys (including Muller) would really help calm my nerves as a viable lead striker in the event that Fernando can't shake the yips. Hulk or Falcao would definitely make me feel better. I don't think we can bring Falcao in without losing Torres (which I might be ok with), whereas Hulk is more versatile and can be paired with Torres rather easily. Plus, Hulk is just an overall badass. You can never have too many of those guys on your squad.
Hulk does not have a right foot. He is 100% LEFTY. If you watched the Mexico vs Brazil game, you saw that Mexico always played him to cut in from the right to put the ball on his left foot. Like a VERY Poor Man's Messi or a Poor Man's Arjen Robben, but without nearly the dribbling skills.
On the other hand, Falcao is an out and out scorer. That's all he does is score goals. I would much rather have him than Torres. That being said, in the Argentina game, I did see Hulk playing some on the Left Wing. So he was being used more as someone who would cross the ball from that position rather than take shots on goal. Both the Mexico & Argentina matches were friendlies (as was the Denmark game, but I didn't watch that one), so the coach was probably trying him in different spots to see what he could and couldn't handle. But if you're going to have a guy who always cuts into the middle to put the ball on his strong foot, you have to have a true winger behind him who can overlap and keep the defenders honest. I'm not sure if Chelsea has someone who can do that all game long like Messi does at Barça with Dani Alves. (He kind of has that with Zabaleta for the national team.)
Müller was awesome at the 2010 World Cup, but he seems to have regressed since then. I don't know if players have figured him out or if he's had a dip in form. Either way, he wasn't starting a lot of games this past year for Bayern.
And I've always been a fan of Fellaini. There were rumors a couple of years ago that he might go to Chelsea (I believe), but then he got injured and only now seems to have rounded back into shape. And with Luiz, those two would have some of the biggest hair in all of European Football.
Here's the formula adidas used when coming up with Chelsea's 2012/13 away kit:
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As far as some of the guys you named, they are all lovely options but I don't think Chelsea has really been going after them, except Fellaini. Modric is on everybody's list, especially after the failed United bid just a few hours ago.
We'll have to wait for the Euros to end for the rumors and signings to pick back up. Let's just hope Chelsea doesn't go the Heat route and take all the sexy picks without thinking how they fit together.
I get the point about Hulk being a predominantly left footed player. So is Arjen Robben, but he's still effective in his own right. Like you said, it's about the people you put around him.
At the end of the day, I'll take Falcao and Hulk and send Torres packing. That would be ideal. I also think it's very unlikely to happen, unless we see a lot more of the same from Torres through the rest of the Euro tournament. I suppose the timing is good for Chelsea in that regard. If we don't see him turn things around, then maybe that gives Roman and RDM the shove they need to take drastic action.
Sounds like Porto is plating hard ball on Hulk:
Personally I'm fine if we decide not to add Hulk, so long as we get aggressive in the pursuit of central midfield. If you give me the choice of Fellaini or M'Vila vs. Hulk, I'll take one of the midfield guys. We've got some options at winger.
Yeah smh at Porto coming out with all this "Oh he's wanted all over but doesn't mind staying at Porto" and "he's still here, ain't he?" crap. You know he wants out of Porto and into the EPL where he can make a difference in the soccer world every year rather than 2 or 3 more world cups. The time has come for him to make the move, and he's been linked with Chelsea this whole time. From the way I see it, I think it's going to happen. Whether or not its the right move or the best move, I think it's the move Chelsea makes.
And I agree on Torres. Now is a great time to test him one last time before having to make a final decision. I feel like Roman was sincere in saying that "Torres is our guy", but when you hear that we are still after the likes of Falcao, you gotta start thinking he wasn't 100% committed. I think this is the biggest decision Chelsea will have to make. To Torres or not to Torres. He stays in this funk, and Chelsea looks like a fool in the end.
Gonna be honest, Torres looked pretty $#@!ing good today.
The rest of the tournament will be huge for him. There won't be any more Ireland's on the schedule. He's probably locked up the striker role for the rest of the tournament. Now he needs to keep the momentum going.
I may be in the minority, but I hope CFC give Torres another year. He looked much better during the later part of the season and even when he was struggling to score, he still created chances for teammates. The skill is there.
And am I'm crazy for thinking that he might have been playing through a strained hammy or achilles or something? Because he looked a step slower, then he got left out of the starting 11 a bunch of times around midseason, i.e. got a lot of rest, then came back looking much better when he started just about every match while Drogs was in Africa. It's just a theory.
Either way, with Hazard and Hulk coming in, I think Torres can link up with them very, very well. I hope he gets another shot, and if he struggles badly, Sturridge can get his minutes. After paying 50 mil for him, I think you've got to roll the dice and hope the old Torres is back.
I'm on the fence, though leaning towards agreeing with you. If you assume that the Hulk deal happens, he's going to be surrounded by serious talent (Hazard and Hulk outside and Mata behind him) that should give him the cover he needs to create those chances.
I will be watching every Spain match intently and hoping for continued signs that he's rounding back into shape.
Chelsea are making a move for Victor Moses, but have apparently pissed off Wigan with an insulting offer:
Apparently taking the Mickey means taking a piss.
Either way, he seems like a nice piece that could fill in for what we're losing with Kalou.
Not much going on news wise, but I did find this video on YouTube just now:
So with the Euro being done and dusted, I'm officially nervous about relying on Torres as our primary option at Striker. I can't imagine that he's in a good place mentally after sitting on the bench for more than 80% of the UCL and Euro finals.
Complicating matters further is that Sturridge is currently plan B. There is just nothing special there when I look at his level of skill.
If we truly have eyes on challenging for the league title, we have got to invest in a legitimate goal scorer. Falcao would be my first call, no question. Doumbia would be my 2nd call and I wouldn't want to have to make any more calls than that.
I guess I'm not as nervous as you. What I saw at Euro 2012 was a guy whose coach had very little, if any, confidence in him. But, his movement kept putting him in scoring positions. Sure, he missed a couple of chances against Italy that could've won the game. But he's still coming home with a golden boot. What Torres, and really everybody if you ask me, missed last year was service. They've started addressing that.
I'm predicting at least 25 goals from him if he's healthy.
Or I'm just blinded by the blue-colored glasses.
Well, I did post that before he scored today. Still, one could argue that he won the golden boot by scoring 2 vs. the worst squad at the Euros and getting a goal and an assist vs. a 10 man Italy side that had thrown in the towel.
It's an admittedly pessimistic view, but it's also not untrue.
I just don't know how mentally strong he is. I don't know how he will react to adversity if things don't get off to a great start.
I think we need to bolster the position somehow. I could live with signing a solid #2 striker if that's the way they want to go. Giroud would have been a pretty solid option there, but he opted to go in a different direction.
Rondon is one name that has been out there, and Huntelaar is another name I've seen.
Of course if we can wrap up the Hulk deal (which is really being drawn out), then that might kill two birds with one stone. We can pair him Torres on the wing, which will put more pressure on the D and should free up Torres to make solid runs. At the same time, if Torres craps the bed we can drop Hulk into the striker spot.
Cliffs: Di Matteo says Chelsea isn't done signing players (duh), but won't comment on any names. He also said Malouda may not be done at Chelsea after all (this makes me nervous that the Hulk move may be dead).
I think Chelsea are playing their cards right on Hulk. He's 26, so he's not really young enough to warrant splashing the cash over. They've used the pursuit of Victor Moses as a very public way of telling Porto that they have options outside of Hulk.
I want Hulk, but we can't go for broke for him because we're not going to be selling him for very much towards the end of his next contract when he'll be 30 or so.
Modric is kind of a similar deal, but our need there is more pronounced and he'd be such a perfect fit. I still don't have a good feeling for which way that one is going to work out.
On last time...
Now lets get this started! C'mon you blues!
Getting pumped to watch this friendly against the Sounders. Really excited to get a look at Hazard and the other Belgians.
Hazard, Marin, and Lukaku all starting. I'm hoping to see DeBruyne come on at some point as well.
Good mother of God. Lukaku is a got damned monster. That dude is only 19?
Well, it certainly looks like our first pre-season match. That being said, good to see the new guys (I'm counting Lukaku as new given how little he played last year) getting on the score sheet. Some player thoughts from the 1st half:
Hazard - First touch and ability to turn and go are outstanding. He's clearly the most talented player on the pitch.
Lukaku - He knows how to finish. He's a little more agile than his massive size suggests, but he's still pretty stiff at the end of the day. He's got a lot to learn to be a complete Center Forward, but at least he seems to have the scoring part down (vs. MLS level competition at least).
Marin - Plays about like a right footed Robben, minus the whining doucheyness. His direct runs are encouraging, but he's got to learn to do more with it than cut to his right foot and shoot.
McEachran - Looks pretty good in the deeper CM role, minus that awful pass that lead to their 1st goal. He's had some nice through balls from deep.
Benayoun, Ferreira and Hilario are all different shades of awful and better not be part of our rotation unless we're talking about the Carling cup.
I wish I didn't hate Chel$ea so much, those blue/gold shirts are so dope. I came real close to buying one last night, but just couldn't pull the trigger.
Here's some of the ones I like:
There was a good amount of Chel$ea supporters out last night. I was kind of surprised. Couple groups from Vancouver and some Chelsea Supporters of America or something. Don't mind all the b&w stuff, I was playing around with all the stuff my camera can do that I just figured out last night.
Here's the full set if you're interested:
Damn dude, that's awesome. Thanks for the pics.
P.S. Still not buying NCAA this year. Bye.
Oscar is a done deal:
Azpilicueta looks like a strong possibility to be the next signing. If we lock him up, that only leaves finding a solid 2nd option at CF/ST on the shopping list.
Great summer moves for the Blues this year. Much, much stronger effort than last season.
From the MLS All Star game tonight
Community Shield vs. Man City tomorrow. The season is upon us, but we're still not done in the transfer market.
With Lukaku off to West Brom on loan, we need another option at striker and we still don't have a capable RB to spell Ivanovic. Hopefully we wrap up those two deals quickly, because we have a ton of matches this season.
I'm honestly surprised that the Victor Moses deal isn't done yet, since we don't look like budging on the exorbitant fee demand on Hulk. Thought we'd have a young RB by now as well...maybe RDM feels good using Bertrand or Paulo there in a pinch.
Porto is $#@!ing stupid. Nobody is going to come close to paying what they want for him. Even PSG thinks that's too much.
Hulk is starting to speak out about wanting to leave, and he's going to have do a whole lot more of that if he really wants to push the issue.
Good to see Torres get off to a good start. We need to see plenty more of that.
I'm pissed at Ivanovic for getting sent off in a glorified friendly. He'll miss 3 matches for that bit of stupidity.
So, the usual. Quite the howler from the GK there.
And yeah, good to see Torres on the scoresheet, disappointing to see Brana sent off...not sure what he was thinking.
So it turns out that Ivanovic will not face any suspension for his straight red yesterday. Good news on a Monday morning.
Not the easiest trip to start the season. But still, ready to get this thing started.
I'm thinking 4-2-3-1 to start the season...Cahill/Luiz I still can't get a read on:
Will be eager to see Oscar and Martin off the bench. I don't think either is trusted enough to start alongside Lampard in a deep-lying midfield role just yet.
Martin? Do you mean Marin? He's injured. Hamstring issue.
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