both cities are $#@! holes for very different reasons.
fat $#@!s every where in SA
inbred $#@!s everywhere in OKC
both cities are $#@! holes for very different reasons.
fat $#@!s every where in SA
inbred $#@!s everywhere in OKC
Kobe Bryant never once complained about Bruce Bowen's play. Not one $#@!ing time. And those guys had some big-time wars. Ray Allen was the one that did most of the bitching.
Seriously? The part where multiple players are cited as saying he does the $#@! on purpose. You cut out only the part where the execs claim "he is as clean as can be"......lol. You guys are a bunch of Spurs homers! Everyone knows Bowen was dirty except y'all. Let me help you out. All you have to do is google or you tube "Bruce Bowen dirty player", and you are rewarded with pages of items. So since there are so many homers here who think I am just making this $#@! up, I put a few selections here for you to enjoy. Take special not of the close outs in the first video and watch his feet. Then come back here and tell me that all those were "accidental", and defend the many players who have said he was dirty, including Berry who was his teammate.
You know how I know when flopping started? I think of the floppers from before around 1998. Then I think of the ones from after that era. Name me floppers from the Jordan era or before. Name a bunch of floppers from before manu got here. You can't, because it was around the time that Manu got here that flopping became a widespread epidemic.
There weren't that many Europeans in the NBA in the 90's. I think the statistic is around 2% foreigners. Now the number has at least tripled.
those videos do show Bowen unnaturally extending his leg to miraculously be on the very spot where the offensive player will land.
Are we really at the Bown is dirty argument? He's not even on the $#@!ing team anymore.
Two things I've learned over the years: The NBA has a weird thing about it where every team besides yours is full of bitches, $#@!s, cheaters, whiners, floppers, and $#@!s. Also, when the bitching about the Spurs gets to be the highest is when we are on championship runs. I'll take it.
The weird thing about this series for me is I don't have the typical hate for the Thunder except realizing that their fans are made up of 90% Sooner $#@!bags. I'm very curious to see how this plays out starting tomorrow. In celebration, I'm getting drunk now and putting on a brisket in about 30.
I am glad you see the light my man. I am happy you came back to own up. Many will not. It's not a big deal man, just an old athlete who recognizes those tactics. I don't know all there is to know about basketball, but there used to be a dude down at the Fonde rec center that used to pull that bull$#@!. Along with poking you in the stomach on your jumpshot, and ducking and running past you when you elevated. All of which would make you flinch just enough to throw you off.
OKC beating the Spurs depends on these few things. If OKC can continue not turning the ball over. Westbrook can continue to play under control. If they can defend Duncan one on one.
The Spurs ball movement starts when you have to help on Parker on the pick and roll, or Duncan in the post. They go inside then kick it out, and swing, swing, and swing until they get a wide open look. If they aren't helping on Tim then it will be hard to get those looks.
Also, the Spurs players have to continue to perform. They haven't had to work too hard to defend the teams they have played so far. Now, they will be chasing really good offensive players around all game. The guys who are defending Durant, Westbrook, and Harden may start to get tired. If that happens, look for those shots to stop falling. I am interested to see if the role players continue to play well when they have to chase OKC around for 7 games. It's one thing to get them here and there a few times a year. It's a whole other level to do it night after night. Good offensive players start to figure you out. That's what happened to the Pacers.
Danny Ainge flopped. Vlade flopped in his rookie season until the day he retired. Bill Lambier flopped. Reggie Miller was the king of flopping. John Stockton was a flopping $#@!. Mutombo flopped. Sabonis flopped. All of those are pre-Manu. Now go eat a $#@!.
And the $#@! you mentioned before as not being flopping, is considered flopping. The $#@! about being breathed on and flying into the stands? I've never seen Manu do that. Dude flops, but he takes contact like your mom takes $#@!. Hard.
game day bitches
i'm floating the comal river tomorrow with some friends so i'll be nice and wasted by 7:30
Last edited by AuwstinTexasBaby; 05-27-2012 at 02:34 AM.
It took a couple of pages for this thread to finally live up to the thread title.
though thunder fans are showing they are newbies in the nba title contention talking $#@! world if they bring up bruce bowen who hasn't been a Spur for several seasons .....
Last edited by To be named later; 05-27-2012 at 03:23 AM.
Game day baby.. GSG. KD, drop thirty but don't beat us.
More like San Antoldyaso. Heyo!!
Look $#@!, the point is that flopping on an every play basis didn't come around until around 2000 $#@!. Almost every single player flops now. That happened because of the influx of Euro style players and American players seeing how affective it is. Now you have guys like Chris Paul, James, Wade, and Pierce flopping too, and why shouldn't they?
Also, if throwing your hands in there air when you get hit across the arms while driving is a flop, then I've been flopping since high school. Flopping isn't getting fouled you never played any sport $#@!. Flopping is when you didn't get fouled and you show body action like someone just clubbed you. You guys are some morons, seriously!
Jesus dude. Shut the $#@! up with your, we are deeper than our big 3 bull$#@!! It doesn't matter how much deeper you are when the kids you are playing can play the whole game. They are all 22-23 years old, and can play all game every game without wearing down. They are $#@!ing kids compared to Duncan who had to be spared games half the season just to be in good shape before the playoffs.
The Spurs are almost automatic when winning game 1 of a best of 7 (they've lost just twice under Pop after winning game 1 of a best of seven since he got there...04 Lakers and 06 Dallas). But they've LOST four of their last five best of sevens when losing game 1. I'm saying it again, this is a big game, TONIGHT.
$#@! the spurs and all their douchebitch fans
Spurs fans, your team is going to lose tonight, and you are going to be all sad. I will be happy. Otherwise, I hope you have a pleasant day.
Kevin Durant fans going all Mav fan on us in here.
Did P just say that Stockton didn't flop and that depth doesn't matter? lo-$#@!ing l
"He's one of the great floppers in the league," longtime NBA analyst Steve Jones told the Salt Lake Tribune in 2001. "He knows how to get into a guy's head."
Even Divac tried to defer to Stockton in the art of the flop: "John's the best," Divac told a Sacramento radio station in 2003. "They told me I'm the Oscar winner for flopping, but hey, everything goes to John!"
Last edited by cajunhorn; 05-27-2012 at 03:36 PM.
I just stopped by the Academy at 63rd and NW Expressway for some swag. You would have thought it was free syringe day. Oh lawdy
Got to be ready for the away game?
The Pacers go ten deep and just got beat in 6 by a team with no $#@!ing bench at all. That same team had a worse bench last year, Mike Bibby starting, and almost won the NBA title. The bench only matters if your starters don't hold up. OKC has exactly one decent bench guy, and yet here they are in the WCF having only lost one game to the lakers and having swept the defending champs. The bench isn't as important as you $#@!s think it is.
P.S. John Stockton wasn't known as a flopper. Has he flopped? Yes, as most people have at one point in time. But he wasn't out there diving on the ground every time he made a move toward the hoop like Manu does.
From Salt Lake Hoops...
For someone who likes to point out where others are missing the obvious, you've sure got quite the mental blank spot yourself.Let’s start with the best acting performances of the past season. Mainly Flops. Flopping as an art and a stagecraft, a la Vlade Divac. It is a total acting commitment. Or as Stanislavski would say, it requires you to act as though you’re “in the moment.” I’ll be analyzing a few flops from the best Flop Artists of today: Manu Ginobli, Amar’e Stoudemire, Pau Gasol, Derek Fisher, and Paul Pierce. Then I’ll compare these flopping legends of the present to all-time Jazz great John Stockton. It is often said in NBA circles that John was quite the flopper so we’ll see if he matches up against these Flopper Extraordinaries.
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For good measure...
Basketball / NBA : Bleacher Report - NBA
Perhaps the most unfortunate development in basketball over the last 10 years has been the rise in flopping. While the 80's and 90's had notable floppers like Bill Laimbeer, John Stockton, Vlade Divac and Reggie Miller...Below is a ranking of the NBA’s greatest floppers of all time. (This ranking does not include any current NBA players, for the ranking of the NBA’s Top 10 floppers of the 2012 season start the slide show)
1, Vlade Divac
Divac was the forefather of the European flop movement, a man ahead of his time. He entered the NBA in 1989 as a horrible defender, and his Lakers teammates — most notably Magic Johnson — demanded improvement. “Most of the time, I flopped because I wasn’t strong enough to stand up against everybody who was so physical,” Divac told the Orange County Register in 1995, referring to his early NBA career.
The Lakers benefited from Divac’s flops through the 1995-96 season, after which he was traded to the Hornets for the rights to Kobe Bryant. But they soon found the tables turned when Divac joined the Sacramento Kings in 1998. Who could forget the images of Divac’s body flying to and fro in a flopping fiesta in the 2002 Western Conference finals? “I don’t know what is flopping,” Divac said in a 2002 ESPN.com article by Marc Stein. “I think Derek Fisher does a better job of that than I do. It’s taking a charge. It’s for the refs to decide. … I’m going to play like I’ve been playing my whole career.”
2, Bill Laimbeer
A cornerstone of the famed “Bad Boys” championship teams in Detroit, Laimbeer was vilified around the league for his aggressive play, head games and the trademark “Laimbeer flop.” He was the most hated player in the league during his heyday. Legendary Celtics broadcaster Johnny Most dubbed him, simply, “The Flopper.”
3, Reggie Miller
Miller is unquestionably the greatest offensive flopper in NBA history, and also the most vocal member of this list.
He spent almost as much time lobbying the officials as he did feigning victimization. Miller perfected the art of drawing contact in midair — sometimes with an extra little kick at the end of a jumper — and often found his way to the floor despite barely being grazed.
Said former NBA guard Rex Chapman during a 2004 TNT telecast: “Reggie is, without a doubt, now that John Stockton has retired, the best flopper in the game.”
4, John Stockton
“He’s one of the great floppers in the league,” longtime NBA analyst Steve Jones told the Salt Lake Tribune in 2001. “He knows how to get into a guy’s head.”
Even Divac tried to defer to Stockton in the art of the flop: “John’s the best,” Divac told a Sacramento radio station in 2003. “They told me I’m the Oscar winner for flopping, but hey, everything goes to John!”
Last edited by cajunhorn; 05-27-2012 at 05:53 PM.
Is this the "Argue about John Stockton like $#@!gots" thread?
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