the aroldis chapman appreciation thread

[HenryGandorf]

i know there's a meta thread, i know there's reds thread, but this guy needs his own $#@!.

he is now 4-0 with a 0.00 era. he also has 6 holds and 2 saves.

he has been in 20 games and thrown 24.1 innings.

in those 20 games, 9 times he threw 1 inning, with 0 hits, 0 walks and 2k.

of the remaining 11, four of those times, he pitched 2 innings. in those 8 innings, he has 16 strikeouts.

of 88 batters faced, he has struck out 41.

he keeps anything close to this up, he's gonna be in cy young discussions, at the very least.

[thrillhouse]

with their terrible starters, they can't keep him in the bullpen if he's gonna keep this up.

[YeaTexasFight]

on pace to be the most unhittable pitcher ever.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...573551820.html
As of 5/14: (he's now at 46.6%)

[Derka Derka]

goddammit hg. Not that numbers didnt know that Chapman was awesome already, but the reason I just asked him if he wants Jeter is because I was gonna go after Chapman. Now he gets his own thread. Goddammit.

[HenryGandorf]

on pace to be the most unhittable pitcher ever.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...573551820.html
As of 5/14: (he's now at 46.6%)

is it odd to anyone else that this stat covers the last 90 years, but all of these happened in the last 15, and half of them in the past 3 (2.5) seasons?

[HenryGandorf]

goddammit hg. Not that numbers didnt know that Chapman was awesome already, but the reason I just asked him if he wants Jeter is because I was gonna go after Chapman. Now he gets his own thread. Goddammit.

maybe he doesn't know what chapman has been doing.

[YeaTexasFight]

is it odd to anyone else that this stat covers the last 90 years, but all of these happened in the last 15, and half of them in the past 3 (2.5) seasons?

not really when you consider the proliferation of specialty pitchers (i.e. closers). Helluva lot easier to have a higher K % when you only have to face a batter once as opposed to 2 to 4 times if you were a starter routinely going 7+ innings like they did in the old days.

....I did enjoy seeing Wagner on that list 3 times, and 12 years apart.

[Derka Derka]

I wonder what late 90's/early 2000's Pedro martinez would have done as a closer.

[HenryGandorf]

not really when you consider the proliferation of specialty pitchers (i.e. closers). Helluva lot easier to have a higher K % when you only have to face a batter once as opposed to 2 to 4 times if you were a starter routinely going 7+ innings like they did in the old days.

....I did enjoy seeing Wagner on that list 3 times, and 12 years apart.

obviously the invention of the save and the birth of the specialty guys, the closers, and the subsequent huge contracts that followed have everything to do with it, but you would've thought someone would sneak through. where is the goose when i need him?

[YeaTexasFight]

obviously the invention of the save and the birth of the specialty guys, the closers, and the subsequent huge contracts that followed have everything to do with it, but you would've thought someone would sneak through. where is the goose when i need him?

fair enough...I agree.

[YeaTexasFight]

Then again, to put those %'s in perspective, Nolan Ryan's best season was 31%. Of course, being the all-time BB leader doesn't help that stat.

However, even in the years he led the league in WHIP, he was [i[only[/i] around 30%

[Beau Vine]

I wonder what late 90's/early 2000's Pedro martinez would have done as a closer.

Absolutely heinous $#@!, that's what he would have done.

[YeaTexasFight]

Absolutely heinous $#@!, that's what he would have done.

Yes, yes he would have.

As it were, he STILL managed 37% and 35% in 1999 & 2000 in 213 and 217 IP.

[Derka Derka]

Yes, yes he would have.

As it were, he STILL managed 37% and 35% in 1999 & 2000 in 213 and 217 IP.

That's retarded. And smack dab in the middle of the steroid era no less.

[YeaTexasFight]

That's retarded. And smack dab in the middle of the steroid era no less.

...and in the AL (DH).

[C-Man]

That's retarded. And smack dab in the middle of the steroid era no less.

You can argue that Pedro's 1999 or 2000 season (can't remember which) is the greatest for a pitcher all time. He led the league in ERA and I think was more than two runs lower than the #2 guy.

[HenryGandorf]

if you wanna know what pedro would've done only having to pitch 1-2 innings, go look at what he did at some of those all-star games.

i'm blanking on who it was in some interview, asking about pedro's stuff in the fenway game (i think). he struck out looking, and they asked him why he didn't swing, and he said, "what's the point?"

[YeaTexasFight]

Year Age Tm W L ERA G GS GF CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP SO/9
1999 27 BOS 23 4 2.07 31 29 1 5 1 213.1 160 56 49 9 37 1 313 9 0 6 835 243 0.923 13.2
2000 28 BOS 18 6 1.74 29 29 0 7 4 217 128 44 42 17 32 0 284 14 0 1 817 291 0.737 11.8

[Derka Derka]

Year Age Tm W L ERA G GS GF CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP SO/9
1999 27 BOS 23 4 2.07 31 29 1 5 1 213.1 160 56 49 9 37 1 313 9 0 6 835 243 0.923 13.2
2000 28 BOS 18 6 1.74 29 29 0 7 4 217 128 44 42 17 32 0 284 14 0 1 817 291 0.737 11.8

[TTU13]

I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to convert him into a starter yet this year. I understand how important it is to have a strong bullpen guy (i.e. Ogando), but damn. If he's throwing THIS WELL, you want him going 7 strong every fifth day.

[YeaTexasFight]

yep, only Johnson's 13.4 SO/9 in 2001 was higher all-time for a single season...of course that game in the NL.

[Derka Derka]

I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to convert him into a starter yet this year. I understand how important it is to have a strong bullpen guy (i.e. Ogando), but damn. If he's throwing THIS WELL, you want him going 7 strong every fifth day.

Why $#@! with such a good thing? If it aint broke don't fix it.

[YeaTexasFight]

Why $#@! with such a good thing? If it aint broke don't fix it.

yep...It's working out great for the Horns and Knebel so far.

[Sooner2483]

Chapman will start....It's simply a matter of when.

[BigOrange]

he should probably be starting now, but it is absolutely retarded that he isn't at the very least their everyday closer by now (should have begun the year as the closer if they want him in the pen).

[HenryGandorf]

he is now, but it took a while.

[Sooner2483]

he should probably be starting now, but it is absolutely retarded that he isn't at the very least their everyday closer by now (should have begun the year as the closer if they want him in the pen).

The only reason he isn't starting is because with Bill Bray hurt, Logan Ondrusek would be the only left-handed 'Pen Option. Once Bray is healthy, I believe Chapman will replace Bailey in the rotation.

[Sooner2483]

From John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer: "Aroldis Chapman was OK going on back-to-back days. 1-2-3 ninth, 12 pitches, two strikeouts. His updated line: 24 1/3 innings, 7 hits, 7 walks, 43 strikeouts. That’s just silly."

[HenryGandorf]

The only reason he isn't starting is because with Bill Bray hurt, Logan Ondrusek would be the only left-handed 'Pen Option. Once Bray is healthy, I believe Chapman will replace Bailey in the rotation.

sean marshall?

[Sooner2483]

sean marshall?

Ah, my bad.....given the fact that Marshall has struggled Closing, Gotta leave Chapman in the Closer's role. Though, as I said, I'm sure he'll begin starting once Bray is healthy.

[LonghornSS]

I $#@!ing love Aroldis Chapman. That is all.

[huge]

if you wanna know what pedro would've done only having to pitch 1-2 innings, go look at what he did at some of those all-star games.

i'm blanking on who it was in some interview, asking about pedro's stuff in the fenway game (i think). he struck out looking, and they asked him why he didn't swing, and he said, "what's the point?"

Most dominant pitching I ever saw. No one was close to him and it was all stars.

[TxStArmadillo]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/...pitcher-closer

Here's an article of Aroldis enjoyment on ESPN.

[indaclutch]

Just noticed no one on the strikeout list are American leaguers.

[Duck of Death]

That's retarded. And smack dab in the middle of the steroid era no less.

maybe he was juicing also. the wiry frame gives him away.

[LonghornSS]

Video won't embed, but it's worth a click.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...y_22086787&v=3

[Derka Derka]

If I were the NL manager at the All Star game I'd start him.

[HenryGandorf]

it's larussa. what does he care?

[244335]

maybe he doesn't know what chapman has been doing.

[capnamerca]

Video won't embed, but it's worth a click.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...y_22086787&v=3

Hah hah, that's ridiculous.

"All these pitches to choose from ... let's see what the kid thinks about the old number 1."

[Sooner2483]

Only reason dude FINALLY gave up a couple of Earned Runs is because he threw a Slider.

[indaclutch]

Bump for an AL team styling on him.

[Hold my D]

I was at a Cardinals - Reds game last year. Cards were up big and they brought in Chapman to get some work because he hadn't thrown in a few days. I got all excited but then he only hit 99 mph. Perhaps he wasn't completely loose, or the gun was a bit off.

[Derka Derka]

His ERA vs National League is 0.18 (45g, 49.2ip, 17h, 2r, 1er, 13bb, 96k, 0hr).

And that was before today's perfect 9th. Add 1 IP and 2 K to those stats.

[Dewey Oxburger]

Only Street has more scoreless innings and he's gonna pass Street.

[Sooner2483]

Of the the 13 pitches thrown today, all but one was over 100 MPH

[capnamerca]

His ERA vs National League is 0.18 (45g, 49.2ip, 17h, 2r, 1er, 13bb, 96k, 0hr).

And that was before today's perfect 9th. Add 1 IP and 2 K to those stats.

MLB The Show 2012, real-life edition. $#@!in' hell ...

[Hogssmellgood]

Easy now. The last time one of you $#@!s bumped this thread he blew like 4 saves. We can't afford that now.