Texas VS Kentucky - NBA draft

[burntorangeblooded15]

Was watching the draft combine for a little and they were talking bout Kentucky's first round picks then brought up Texas as well.

Who do you take in a 7 game series and why? (since 2000)

Texas:
LaMarcus Aldridge
D.J Augustin
Avery Bradley
Kevin Durant
T.J Ford
Daniel "Boobie" Gibson
Jordan Hamilton
Royal Ivey
Damion James
Dexter Pittman
Tristan Thompson
Chris Mihm
Cory Joseph
P.J Tucker

Kentucky:
Eric Bledsoe
Keith Bogans
DeMarcus Cousins
Josh Harrelson
Chuck Hayes
Brandon Knight
DeAndre Liggins
Jamaal Maglore
Jodie Meeks
Daniel Orton
Patrick Patterson
Tayshawn Prince
Rajon Rondo
John Wall

Starters for Texas (IMO):
Augustin
Bradley
Durant
Thompson
Aldridge

Starters for Kentucky (IMO):
Rondo
Wall
Prince
Patterson
Cousins

I think it would be a damn good series honestly.

[Truck's Son]

I'd start Avery Bradley over Gibson.

[burntorangeblooded15]

Forgot him. +rep for you sir

[The Missing Link]

There's no answer for Durant.

[MNLonghorn10]

kd and aldridge are head and shoulders above the best kentucky player. who knows what anthony davis will turn into, i think he'll be good......but KD is on a whole nother level by himself

[Hank Kingsley]

The best player in the NBA that attended a university is Mr. Kevin Durant. Series over.

[Wulaw Horn]

That texas team wins 50 games, maybe more, and is in the playoffs (in the east anyway). That kentucky team finishes in the lottery and has a chance to draft another uk player. No comparrison right now. Mvp calibre player, all star calibre player, solid pg, promissingwing in bradley really coming on, and thompson would be fine as an effort/ hustle guy surrounded by kd and la.

Depth gets a little hairy. Your 4 off the bench, for the standard 9 man rotation are james, pittman, joseph and gibson. The winning 50 games and making the playoffs thing only happens if the starting 5 stay healthy imo. I think hamilton showed flashes in very limited minutes and can play and play well in this league. Gibson is JAG, joseph aspires to JAG status imo, and dexter pittman is just 6 fould if you need them (or 1 foul and ejected if the situation warrants.

[Mizzou415]

That texas team wins 50 games, maybe more, and is in the playoffs (in the east anyway). That kentucky team finishes in the lottery and has a chance to draft another uk player. No comparrison right now. Mvp calibre player, all star calibre player, solid pg, promissingwing in bradley really coming on, and thompson would be fine as an effort/ hustle guy surrounded by kd and la.

Agreed, which isn't particularly surprising as Texas was the better program from 2000-2009.

[Underdog]

LA & KD could probably beat any UK team by themselves. Rondo and Prince are about as close to superstar status of anyone on that list for UK. A healthy TJ would make it even more lopsided, imo.

[H34TX]

aside from Rondo, Anthony Davis and MKG will be better than the rest of the UK listed

[Atticus]

I see it quite differently. Very deep backcourt compared to Texas. DJ is the 5th best pg on that UK squad. Solid frontcourt with a rebounding advantage. They have alot of athleticism and length to throw at KD, but he would still get his. Pretty top heavy Texas team in terms of scoring. KD and LA would have to shoulder the load with Bradley providing boosts.

How would the UK squad not make the playoffs? Rondo makes most of the other people on the team viable scoring threats. Meeks can hit an open shot, Liggins can hit an open shot and play solid D, Bledsoe, Bogans, and Harrellson have also shown the ability to stroke it when open.


I'm also not sold on MKG at the next level. He can provide energy off the bench, but he can't shoot, has a loose dribble, and lacks counters. He needs someone to get him the ball off his cuts.

[Ignatius]

I'm also not sold on MKG at the next level. He can provide energy off the bench, but he can't shoot, has a loose dribble, and lacks counters. He needs someone to get him the ball off his cuts.

He reminds me of Gerald Wilkins, who could only do a couple of things (drive to his right and play floor defense), but did them very well...

[Mizzou415]

I see it quite differently. Very deep backcourt compared to Texas. DJ is the 5th best pg on that UK squad. Solid frontcourt with a rebounding advantage. They have alot of athleticism and length to throw at KD, but he would still get his. Pretty top heavy Texas team in terms of scoring. KD and LA would have to shoulder the load with Bradley providing boosts.

How would the UK squad not make the playoffs? Rondo makes most of the other people on the team viable scoring threats. Meeks can hit an open shot, Liggins can hit an open shot and play solid D, Bledsoe, Bogans, and Harrellson have also shown the ability to stroke it when open.


I'm also not sold on MKG at the next level. He can provide energy off the bench, but he can't shoot, has a loose dribble, and lacks counters. He needs someone to get him the ball off his cuts.

Point guards just aren't that important in the NBA. Elite scorers and big men have a much higher correlation with winning.

[ThaShark316]

I'm also not sold on MKG at the next level. He can provide energy off the bench, but he can't shoot, has a loose dribble, and lacks counters. He needs someone to get him the ball off his cuts.

MKG's going to be an all-star I think. Kind of an Iguodala type player, except I don't know if he can pass like Iggy.

[Atticus]

Point guards just aren't that important in the NBA. Elite scorers and big men have a much higher correlation with winning.

The Lakers disagree.

[fortyakers]

Is this NBA dexter Pittman or senior year dex?

[burntorangeblooded15]

NBA Dex

[LazyEngineer]

Neither is very impressive.

[Underdog]

I'm also not sold on MKG at the next level. He can provide energy off the bench, but he can't shoot, has a loose dribble, and lacks counters. He needs someone to get him the ball off his cuts.

Love this kid, but don't see him as any type of franchise player like Davis. I'd start Meeks over Wall if you're starting Rondo, both of those could build a whole subdivision with the number of bricks they'd throw up. Although RR seems to be improving his shot.

Might be an indictment against him, but Barnes has brought in some stellar talent to Austin.

[Mizzou415]

The Lakers disagree.

The same Lakers who won 5 NBA titles in 11 years without a good point guard?

Since the Pistons last title in 1990, only one NBA champ has had an all-star point guard (2007 Spurs).

[greggym]

Im biased but that Texas team beats UK 7 out of 10 minimum.

[linux]

The same Lakers who won 5 NBA titles in 11 years without a good point guard?

Since the Pistons last title in 1990, only one NBA champ has had an all-star point guard (2007 Spurs).

Very true, I have said it all along and people think I am crazy (or stupid). PG is the most overrated position in Basketball, I love the scrappy guys without height. But facts are facts in a 7 game series, in the NBA playoffs, you need an elite:

Center
2/3 hybrid guard
Power foward
...
...
...
Pure PG

One and dones are completely different obviously, mostly because in a 7 game series teams adapt.

Another reason is that you need both a scorer AND a clutch player that shoots, there is no point of giving an open man the assist if in pressure packed situations he will choke, what is more shocking is that the champs don't carry an elite PG just out of habit, and there is a long list of elite PG.

[Mizzou415]

Very true, I have said it all along and people think I am crazy (or stupid). PG is the most overrated position in Basketball, I love the scrappy guys without height. But facts are facts in a 7 game series, in the NBA playoffs, you need an elite:

Center
2/3 hybrid guard
Power foward
...
...
...
Pure PG

One and dones are completely different obviously, mostly because in a 7 game series teams adapt.

Another reason is that you need both a scorer AND a clutch player that shoots, there is no point of giving an open man the assist if in pressure packed situations he will choke, what is more shocking is that the champs don't carry an elite PG just out of habit, and there is a long list of elite PG.

There was certainly a period where it did seem important. From 1979-1990, every NBA champion had an all-star point guard (Dennis Johnson, Magic, Archibald, Cheeks, Thomas).

I think the position is still pretty important in college as well (though still less so than an elite big).

[Ignatius]

Very true, I have said it all along and people think I am crazy (or stupid). PG is the most overrated position in Basketball, I love the scrappy guys without height. But facts are facts in a 7 game series, in the NBA playoffs, you need an elite:

Center
2/3 hybrid guard
Power foward
...
...
...
Pure PG

One and dones are completely different obviously, mostly because in a 7 game series teams adapt.

Another reason is that you need both a scorer AND a clutch player that shoots, there is no point of giving an open man the assist if in pressure packed situations he will choke, what is more shocking is that the champs don't carry an elite PG just out of habit, and there is a long list of elite PG.

I wouldn't put center nearly as high on that list. In the last 40 years, how many Hall Of Fame caliber centers have won NBA titles, Kareem, Dream, and Shaq? Tim Duncan is obviously a HOF'er but I'd consider him a 4 rather than a 5...

[H34TX]

I wouldn't put center nearly as high on that list. In the last 40 years, how many Hall Of Fame caliber centers have won NBA titles, Kareem, Dream, and Shaq? Tim Duncan is obviously a HOF'er but I'd consider him a 4 rather than a 5...

Bill Walton, Moses Malone, David Robinson and Robert Parish

[Ignatius]

Bill Walton, Moses Malone, David Robinson and Robert Parish

OK, well, besides those guys too, hah...

Let me rephrase: in the last 17 years, having a dominant center hasn't been nearly as important with respect to winning the NBA title as it had been in the past. Kind of like having a dominant running game in the NFL...

[linux]

It is pretty rare to even think of an elite center with no rings, I think only Patrick Ewing qualifies, and he was one game 7 away. PF you have two Karl Malone and Barkley.

Arguably the greatest PG of all time (Stockton) has none.

[Thaboysareback]

UK has far better back court. UT has vastly superior front court. In the NBA, front courts win championships.

[Thaboysareback]

The same Lakers who won 5 NBA titles in 11 years without a good point guard?

Since the Pistons last title in 1990, only one NBA champ has had an all-star point guard (2007 Spurs).

Are you talking about having an All-star PG the same year?

[Mizzou415]

Are you talking about having an All-star PG the same year?

Yes4

[Derka Derka]

DJ is the 5th best pg on that UK squad.

This is $#@!ing retarded. Name the 4 guys ahead of him.

[burntorangeblooded15]

This is $#@!ing retarded. Name the 4 guys ahead of him.

Rondo is it

[Mizzou415]

Rondo is it

I think you can reasonably say Wall is better but Bledsoe and Knight are a wash at best.

[Eskimohorn]

Maurice Evans is still an active NBAer. I think you have to take Chris Mihm off the list since he's been retired since 2009.

Your starting UT 5 is:

C - Aldridge
PF - Thompson
SF - Durant
SG - Bradley
PG - Augustin

Frontcourt off the bench - Damion James, Maurice Evans, Pittman (going to have to log minutes)
Tweeners - Hamilton
PG - TJ Ford, Corey Joseph (he will be a player), Gibson, Ivey

The problem with this team is health and post depth. That being said, a Durant/Aldridge combo would be lethal.

[MrPhlegm]

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