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    if you are thirsty for rumors, go check out the Tigerdroppings flightaware thread starting here.

    basically, they start to piece together the facts underlying the shuttlesworth theory.
    • saban in bad CRE deal with bama boosters.
    • deal goes south. everyone else declares BK. saban can't declare bk because he's nick saban.
    • texas boosters offer to make saban's financial problems go away if he signs with texas.

    There's an apartment complex in Houston (Watermarke Apartments) that's under water. Your pal Nick Saban is 49.5% owner of AND he is PERSONAL guarantor on the note. He currently pays interest only so the note won't default. If the note defaults that's a $25MM judgement against him.

    A Texas Based bankruptcy firm (Weston Legal) had a very in-depth article up about it until 3 days ago and - BOOM - it's magically disappeared (although a Google Cached version is here: LINK to the cached article.).

    Anyway, if he gets out from under that loan that's an additional seven figures a year that goes back in his pocket from not having to pay the interest AND he gets out from under the impending crush of a $25MM debt.

    This is all public record, courtesy of the Texas Secretary of State (search for Beltway 8 Associates LP) and the Harris County (TX) clerk of court and its one of the most poorly kept secrets in the Baton Rouge Real Estate business community.

    Now the apartment debt is bad enough, but because of Perkins Rowe, Tommy Spinosa had to file Chapter 11 to protect his creditors from seizing his assets, which leaves Nick Squarely in the crosshairs of that $25MM.

    Again, this is all a matter of public record (Bankruptcy filings and mortgages always are public records) should you choose to look it up yourself.
    Thank You, this is it, The loan was owned by Compass Bank and the story in the legal community was whether Compass was going to go after Saban for the 25 million. This was during 2011 near the game of the decade. They obviously sold the loan off to avoid doing that.

    Is that that Bank that Joe Jamal has some ownership in btw?

    Saban is basically insolvent unless this is cleared up. If Texans have the loans, they have their man I would think. Game set and match.
    if it's all true, it makes sense why JS, mcphaul and the ppl they are talking to are so sure about texas' offer. and it esplains why Saban is listening.

    entertainment purposes only. though i can vouch that the weston legal article disappeared mysteriously a few days ago. i read it myself, sent it to a friend, and it was gone by the time he got it.

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    ^^ Cached article that went missing is here.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Here's the bankruptcy filing:
    http://bankrupt.com/misc/beltway8.DS.pdf

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    $#@! Saban.... We need to get our $#@! together and ink Lou Holtz to a five year deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    if you are thirsty for rumors, go check out the Tigerdroppings flightaware thread starting here.

    basically, they start to piece together the facts underlying the shuttlesworth theory.
    • saban in bad CRE deal with bama boosters.
    • deal goes south. everyone else declares BK. saban can't declare bk because he's nick saban.
    • texas boosters offer to make saban's financial problems go away if he signs with texas.


    if it's all true, it makes sense why JS, mcphaul and the ppl they are talking to are so sure about texas' offer. and it esplains why Saban is listening.

    entertainment purposes only. though i can vouch that the weston legal article disappeared mysteriously a few days ago. i read it myself, sent it to a friend, and it was gone by the time he got it.
    Holy $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Mound Horn View Post
    $#@! Saban.... We need to get our $#@! together and ink Lou Holtz to a five year deal
    He'd spend all his time on LHN and not on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRZYHORN View Post
    Holy $#@!.
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    from TD:

    Ok, you guys aren't gonna believe this $#@!e. The Company that bought the debt for the Houston Apt complex from Compass bank, FST-WATERMARKE just disolved a month ago. I assume they got their money.

    LINK

    It was owned by John and Micheal Tonti of Dallas. They are both apparently SMU alumni. They own Tonti properties looks like a real estate group specializing in apartment complexes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuk-Monkey View Post
    ^^ Cached article that went missing is here.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Here's the bankruptcy filing:
    http://bankrupt.com/misc/beltway8.DS.pdf
    Kerchow

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    if you are thirsty for rumors, go check out the Tigerdroppings flightaware thread starting here.

    basically, they start to piece together the facts underlying the shuttlesworth theory.
    • saban in bad CRE deal with bama boosters.
    • deal goes south. everyone else declares BK. saban can't declare bk because he's nick saban.
    • texas boosters offer to make saban's financial problems go away if he signs with texas.





    if it's all true, it makes sense why JS, mcphaul and the ppl they are talking to are so sure about texas' offer. and it esplains why Saban is listening.

    entertainment purposes only. though i can vouch that the weston legal article disappeared mysteriously a few days ago. i read it myself, sent it to a friend, and it was gone by the time he got it.
    Now that is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuk-Monkey View Post
    ^^ Cached article that went missing is here.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Here's the bankruptcy filing:
    http://bankrupt.com/misc/beltway8.DS.pdf
    New light and $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    from TD:
    Ok, you guys aren't gonna believe this $#@!e. The Company that bought the debt for the Houston Apt complex from Compass bank, FST-WATERMARKE just disolved a month ago. I assume they got their money.

    LINK

    It was owned by John and Micheal Tonti of Dallas. They are both apparently SMU alumni. They own Tonti properties looks like a real estate group specializing in apartment complexes.

    Sounds like the plural of Tonto is Tonti.

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    so, OK.

    i'm no expert in these transactions, but it looks like FST watermarke was the secured creditor in the watermarke deal.

    so when the deal went south, nick saban was caught with his pants down owing this watermarke fst llc a cool $25M.

    watermarke FST LLC dissolved 1 month ago.

    Presumably, you don't dissolve the LLC that holds a $25M note when the guy paying the note is nick saban.

    unless someone took the note off your hands. someone like:

    *cue suspenseful music*

    a set of texas boosters that want to moneywhip nick saban into coaching for texas.

    if that $#@! is true, it is the type of brazen plan that only billionaire businessmen hatch.

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    who volunteers to call the former watermarke LLC owners and ask if they can page Nick Saban?

    http://tontiproperties.com/

  19. #5869
    If what you're saying is true I wouldn't say it's the way I would prefer we had (possibly) secured Saban, but I'll take it. It certainly wouldn't surprise me, and falls in line with the rumors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    so, OK.

    i'm no expert in these transactions, but it looks like FST watermarke was the secured creditor in the watermarke deal.

    so when the deal went south, nick saban was caught with his pants down owing this watermarke fst llc a cool $25M.

    watermarke FST LLC dissolved 1 month ago.

    Presumably, you don't dissolve the LLC that holds a $25M note when the guy paying the note is nick saban.

    unless someone took the note off your hands. someone like:

    *cue suspenseful music*

    a set of texas boosters that want to moneywhip nick saban into coaching for texas.

    if that $#@! is true, it is the type of brazen plan that only billionaire businessmen hatch.
    If this is true...does this mean We're Texas again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    a set of texas boosters that want to moneywhip nick saban into coaching for texas.
    Whitemail?

    I guess they're too racist for blackmail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpyhorndog View Post
    If what you're saying is true I wouldn't say it's the way I would prefer we had (possibly) secured Saban, but I'll take it. It certainly wouldn't surprise me, and falls in line with the rumors.
    Funny, that's kind of exactly how I'd prefer we get Saban (should be do so); if you're going to hire a mercenary, make sure he's damn well and good paid for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRZYHORN View Post
    If this is true...does this mean We're Texas again?
    Always have been, since 1883.

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    for all i know bank of america bought the debt from fst watermarke llc and nick is still paying on it.

    and he's listening to texas because austin is such a wonderful city and he wants to rebuild another college football program for the challenge of it.

    but this story makes more sense to me. and it's more entertaining. (it also explains why our insiders are so confident).

    if it's true, it's a pretty sweet move by the texas boosters.
    Last edited by alphahydro; 12-12-2013 at 12:48 AM.

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    $#@!, I was going to bed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleHall View Post
    Funny, that's kind of exactly how I'd prefer we get Saban (should be do so); if you're going to hire a mercenary, make sure he's damn well and good paid for.
    Don't get me wrong, I understand that logic. However, I'd prefer that he came to UT for all of the right reasons and because he had a genuine interest and challenge in rebuilding the program to prominence and was drawn to that and other positive factors the university and Austin present, opposed to being essentially drug here to some degree out of monetary obligation which might result in a lowered level of enthusiasm among other things. Not to mention the ridicule/scrutiny it would open UT up to. Not saying it's not great that we are able to do such a thing and I'll happy take it, but it's not the most preferable avenue to me anyone. Neg away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    for all i know bank of america bought the debt from fst watermarke llc and nick is still paying on it.

    and he's listening to texas because austin is such a wonderful city and he wants to rebuild another college football program for the challenge of it.

    but this story makes more sense to me. and it's more entertaining. (it also explains why our insiders are so confident).

    if it's true, it's a pretty sweet move by the texas boosters.
    Took the words out of my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphahydro View Post
    for all i know bank of america bought the debt from fst watermarke llc and nick is still paying on it.

    and he's listening to texas because austin is such a wonderful city and he wants to rebuild another college football program for the challenge of it.

    but this story makes more sense to me. and it's more entertaining. if it's true, it's a pretty sweet move by the texas boosters.

    Austin is much better than anything in Bama when you think that Austin is the 11th biggest city in the US and is within driving distance of #4, #7, #9, #16 and #50 while Tuscaloosa is not even top 250 and the best that that state has to offer is #100, which is behind 13 cities in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentJay View Post
    Austin is much better than anything in Bama when you think that Austin is the 11th biggest city in the US and is within driving distance of #4, #7, #9, #16 and #50 while Tuscaloosa is not even top 250 and the best that that state has to offer is #100, which is behind 13 cities in Texas.
    yes. but if someone gave you an extra $25M, you could just fly to those big cities (and others).

    edit: i just realized you were being sarcastic. sorry. it's late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpyhorndog View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I understand that logic. However, I'd prefer that he came to UT for all of the right reasons and because he had a genuine interest and challenge in rebuilding the program to prominence and was drawn to that and other positive factors the university and Austin present, opposed to being essentially drug here to some degree out of monetary obligation which might result in a lowered level of enthusiasm among other things. Not to mention the ridicule/scrutiny it would open UT up to. Not saying it's not great that we are able to do such a thing and I'll happy take it, but it's not the most preferable avenue to me anyone. Neg away.
    Not everyone who coaches here will think we are the special snowflake we know we are. If we pay him more and he wants it, who gives a $#@!, that's how promotions work.

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    I'd prefer Saban goes to UT because the boosters are just as evil as him. It makes for a better story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepop View Post
    While I hate how our program cares more about money than football, it feels good to be loaded.
    it's not the program per se, it's the boosters. specifically, we have a bunch of boosters who are really clever, loaded, and into football.

    i know guys/gals whose last names are on buildings at Yale, Stanford, UCLA, and BYU. Not one of them gives a $#@! about football. A lot of the rich alums at Texas care about football. It's why we have our own network and nick saban's ear.

    edit: oregon didn't just randomly become oregon; same for okie state. it really helps to have rich, clever boosters that care about the football program. stanford could become a dangerous school if their alums started caring about football.
    Last edited by alphahydro; 12-12-2013 at 01:03 AM.

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    Anything new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Born View Post
    Not everyone who coaches here will think we are the special snowflake we know we are. If we pay him more and he wants it, who gives a $#@!, that's how promotions work.
    Fair enough. To each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTX24 View Post
    Anything new?
    Yah bro. Land deals, SMU boosters, bankruptcy, and Houston apartment complexes.

    Pretty standard $#@!.

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    This is the point where I should stop lying to myself that I will accomplish anything at work this week.
    Tell me about it. This is finals week and I'm an EE major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foosters Galore View Post
    Yah bro. Land deals, SMU boosters, bankruptcy, and Houston apartment complexes.

    Pretty standard $#@!.
    Damn. The truth is far more sinister....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepop View Post
    Tell me about it. This is finals week and I'm an EE major.
    Law student here. Feel your pain. $#@!.

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    It is sooo $#@!ing happening.

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    bunghole free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares? free=good is probably perfectly normal.  Probably. Maybe. Who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepop View Post
    Tell me about it. This is finals week and I'm an EE major.
    Correction, you were an EE major but thanks to this thread you'll finish up as a lib arts grad. Thank Mack for that one. World needs ditch diggers too...

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    And lets not forget Sabans lake house that was Auctioned off in July. http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/in...lion_lake.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by free=good View Post
    Correction, you were an EE major but thanks to this thread you'll finish up as a lib arts grad. Thank Mack for that one. World needs ditch diggers too...
    It's all good, C's get degrees. And D's get me repeating the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Hat View Post
    It is sooo $#@!ing happening.

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    asshat smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? smax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRZYHORN View Post
    If this is true...does this mean We're TexasThe Joneses again?
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