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    Rule change? Is a kickoff into the end zone still a live ball?

    Second half kickoff bounced in the ousux end zone and the whistle blew--it didn't go out the end or off to the sideline and no one touched it. When I played--not quite the leather helmet era--a kickoff was a live ball 'til downed. Under the old rule, a Horn could have jumped on it and got 6 points.
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    Think if it lands in field of play and then rolls into the end zone it is live but if it just lands in end zone it isn't.

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    Shouldn't be, but they do that bull$#@! in the secsecsec all the time! LIVE BALL TILL DOWNED OR RETURNED!

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    If the ball is untouched and bounces into the end zone, it's dead.

    source: I play lots of NCAA Football and assume it's accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Fite View Post
    If the ball is untouched and bounces into the end zone, it's dead.

    source: I play lots of NCAA Football and assume it's accurate.
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    I never remember it being a live ball if it lands in the endzone without anyone touching it. Once it lands there, it's automatically dead. Kickoff team can't recover for a TD and the receiving team can't then pick it up and run. I think.

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    That's weird. I saw the the exact same thing at a high school game Friday night and asked my friend when they changed the rule.

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    Must have been a rule change then.

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    I have a vague memory of an aggy RB in the early 90s that let a kick off bounce over his head into the end zone which was recovered for a TD. It was an NFL game so maybe it's a live ball at that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CooterBrown View Post
    I have a vague memory of an aggy RB in the early 90s that let a kick off bounce over his head into the end zone which was recovered for a TD. It was an NFL game so maybe it's a live ball at that level.
    It used to be the rule. It was live until downed. Making allowances for stupid players, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Fite View Post
    If the ball is untouched and bounces into the end zone, it's dead.

    source: I play lots of NCAA Football and assume it's accurate.
    Diaz is that you?

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    I thought the rule now was that if it ever crossed the goalline on a placekick or a punt, whether it bounced first or not, it goes for a touchback.

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    ARTICLE 7. a. When a free kick untouched by Team B touches the ground on
    or behind Team B’s goal line, the ball becomes dead and belongs to Team B.

    ARTICLE 9. The ball becomes dead and belongs to the team defending its goal
    line when a scrimmage kick that has crossed the neutral zone is subsequently
    untouched by Team B before touching the ground on or behind Team B’s goal
    line (Rule 8-4-2-b) (A.R. 6-3-9-I-II).


    This has been the rule for at least 15 years (most likely longer). The NFL rule is different.

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    Its a live ball in the NFL, not in college, been that way for at least a few years, if not longer.

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    It's never been a live ball in college. Dead ball. Been that way for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Banner Year View Post
    Its a live ball in the NFL, not in college, been that way for at least a few years, if not longer.

    This is correct, and has always been correct.

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    I thought I remembered it being a live ball in college at one time but I could be wrong. Below is my favorite example of this kind of play. Watch how close the 2nd bounce is to the end line. Also, it looked like it should have been called back because about 10 extra rams were already walking onto the field to play defense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WBT View Post
    I thought I remembered it being a live ball in college at one time but I could be wrong. Below is my favorite example of this kind of play. Watch how close the 2nd bounce is to the end line. Also, it looked like it should have been called back because about 10 extra rams were already walking onto the field to play defense.

    I think we're talking about kickoffs, not punts.

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    Yes, live in the NFL. Today, a Phil Dawson kickoff landed in the end zone, the player looked at the ref, and the ref just looked back at him, waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CooterBrown View Post
    I have a vague memory of an aggy RB in the early 90s that let a kick off bounce over his head into the end zone which was recovered for a TD. It was an NFL game so maybe it's a live ball at that level.
    Happened to Barry Foster his rookie year for the Steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refball View Post
    I thought the rule now was that if it ever crossed the goalline on a placekick or a punt, whether it bounced first or not, it goes for a touchback.
    Quote Originally Posted by sessamoid View Post
    I think we're talking about kickoffs, not punts.
    Well that's how the thread started. But then punts were brought up later. And I felt like sharing a cool play.
    Last edited by WBT; 10-13-2013 at 10:26 PM.

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    OK, I looked it up. The rule changed in 1971 for punts and in 1972 for kickoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CooterBrown View Post
    I have a vague memory of an aggy RB in the early 90s that let a kick off bounce over his head into the end zone which was recovered for a TD. It was an NFL game so maybe it's a live ball at that level.
    I remember this play, it bounced on the back of end zone toward the field, everyone gave up on the play but one guy picked up the ball and ran it back for a TD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r2k3982 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by WBT View Post
    I thought I remembered it being a live ball in college at one time but I could be wrong. Below is my favorite example of this kind of play. Watch how close the 2nd bounce is to the end line. Also, it looked like it should have been called back because about 10 extra rams were already walking onto the field to play defense.

    I love how Jim Mora Sr. is on the wrong end of this play. Poor bastard was cursed or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroccoliD View Post
    I love how Jim Mora Sr. is on the wrong end of this play. Poor bastard was cursed or something.
    Was he talking about playoffs?

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