Edit: but for the sake of defining "credibility" as a list that mirrors your personal opinion more closely, the site also gives you the option to modify the rankings by picking and choosing a wide variety of best-of lists.
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A punk band being overrated just makes it more punk.
And, no, I'm not a huge Ramones fan. But I have to acknowledge their influence on a bunch of other top bands and punk rock in general.
Last edited by Carl Spackler; 11-20-2013 at 12:40 PM.
The Beatles essentially took the established pop song form and smashed it open with chord progressions and harmonies that broke a bunch of supposed rules. In fact, to this day, there is debate about exactly which chords the Beatles used on some early songs,because they were unusual and often formed by a combination of different instruments and voices, and people have written analyses of why certain things they did sounded so good despite upsetting traditional rules of songwriting. There's a song by song analysis on the Web (I think the guy's name is Alan Pollack) that details the nuts and bolts of how essentially every Beatles song broke new ground. And all the great music that came afterwards developed that ground, which can obscure how different the Beatles were even from the start.
You were saying about absurd suggestions?
Last edited by MajorTexasFan; 11-20-2013 at 12:46 PM.
I'd also like to submit Animal Collective. Pitchfork has such a hardon for these guys that I almost question if the editor isn't their road manager or something. Their music is so repetitive it'd make Philip Glass nauseous, and so weird for the sake of weird that Zappa fans would find it obnoxious.
I always figured the Ramones were influenced by the Beach Boys and the Ronettes.
I realize Cobain wasn't the most talented guitar player but even with his limitations he was able to produce some of the greatest guitar sounds this earth has ever heard. Plus he had a great voice, especially for the style of music he played. Man he died way to young.
Bruce Springsteen. He was before my time, but I don't understand why old people think he's a legend. He had like 2 good songs.
I'd also agree with U2.
even though this is a thread about the most overrated musicians i'm gona add townes van zandt as the most underrated singer/songwriter of all time. A lot of that was his own doing because he wanted no part of fame and the corrupt music industry but he was truly one of the greats of all time
"Blitzkrieg Bop"-- fun song. Nice they added it to the world. Also love the Troggs' cover of "Wild Thing" and Dramarama's "Anything Anything," but I wouldn't put them among the greatest bands of all time either.
I don't like the music you like and since it's a personal taste and is not subject to measurements of quality I will just say it's "overrated".
Music/movies, food, beer/liquor/wine. Sometimes I like to just sit back and enjoy the stupidity of people arguing about that which cannot be measured.
Dexy's Midnight Runners
Without the Ramones, we wouldn't have the movie Rock N Roll High School and Riff Randle. So there.
I'm gonna go on record as being a fan of the Ramons and everything they stand for. Extremely important band and anyone saying otherwise is talking out their ass.
U2 are some no talent ass clowns, no offense to Michael Bolton.
Jeez, I don't know if it is you guys that can't wrap your head around the question and taking a major whiff, or if its me, but....
The correct answer is:
Take your pick
I think the significance of the Ramones is bringing punk to the US. British punk was so anglo-centric that I think it was unapproachable to our great unwashed masses. They are the American Sex Pistols, somewhat less moronic, but less topical. The Clash took punk, musically and lyrically, where it has never been before or since. So $#@!ing good they overshadowed everyone else and its hard to believe, but for the historical record, that they could have been influenced by the Pistols.
So yeah, they were eclipsed, but nevertheless influential.
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1965-1969: A horde of "garage rock" bands, many from the Northwest, best known being the Kingsmen (Louie, Louie)
1969: MC5 and the Stooges (Michigan).
1971: The New York Dolls (New York) --> later birthed the Sex Pistols, who later birthed the Clash.
1974: The Ramones (New York).
The phrase "punk rock" first appeared in 1971, primarily to describe mid-60s garage rock bands. It quickly morphed into a phrase to describe the then-current (1971-and-on) anti-prog-rock movement in NYC, the bands being very similar (in sound) to mid-60s garage rock bands. The Ramones appeared 3 years later. Which is to say, they did not bring punk to the US.
OK, now I'm thinking I might be posting in a troll thread. Either that, or Cascader just turned 20, blew his load to his first Lester Bangs essay, and is now going to school us all on rock&roll.
The Stooges I will buy as being punk. At least Dog.
I stand by my post. The Ramones popularized the actual punk movement in the US. Not protopunk, not prepunk, not some glam metal precursor bull$#@!.
Last edited by TwiceHorn; 11-21-2013 at 06:19 AM.
Also, Rolling Stone is a joke. It's embarrassing seeing the name of that rag on here.
I remember watching some stupid Austin cable access show the night Cobain shot himself. The host was besides himself and so were the callers he was putting on the air. Some guy calls up and is going on and on about depression, drug addiction and how he thinks knows what was going through Kurt's mind when he shot himself. The host asked him "What could have been going through his mind?" The guy screams "Buckshot" and hangs up. $#@!ing hilarious.
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