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    Quote Originally Posted by Unpainted Huffines View Post
    8 pages and counting, plus multiple 500+ word missives by Randolph Duke suggest that it's a two way street.
    We don't discuss everything aggy does, just the things they do to embarrass themselves. Technically, that would be practically everything aggy does.

    And the 500+ word missives are a secret code UT grads use to keep our communications unknown to the aggys who lurk over here. We use words with more than one syllable and write posts more than five words long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    kate hairoupolous is a $#@!ing aggy apologist. she was a total bitch during the realignment saga. needs her own personal bonfire.


    randolph duke, do your duty.
    I'm going to wait until Saturday and let the WSJ speak on the matter. I already have the aggy hometown newspaper changing the "myaggienation.com" website. "The tradition of the 12th Man at Texas A&M was born at the end of the 1921 football season...Gill spoke at the 1964 Muster, and his speech is on file at Cushing Memorial Library. In it, Gill said the 12th Man tradition caught on during the 1939 national championship season. E.E. McQuillen, who was at the 1922 Dixie Classic, was asked to re-create an event that would be suitable for radio...." http://www.myaggienation.com/history....html?mode=jqm

  3. #403
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    College Football Talk: Texas A&M apparel retailer cashing in on Seattle Seahawks’ success: The Seattle Seahawks may be flying a plane around Seattle to remind travelers where the NFL’s 12th Man resides, but Texas A&M wants you to know where the original 12th Man is found.


    Comment: The original 12th man, King Gill made his way from the stands to the field back in 1922.


    Comment:Say what you want about A&M, but the 12th Man was born in College Station. The 12th Man was a student that came out of the stands and suited up to play back in 1922 when the team was decimated by injuries. E. King Gill stood ready, as all Aggies do.


    Link to CFT post and comments.

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    Now I get why Thomas Johnson quit the team mid-season. He was hoping aggy would need him to suit up for the bowl and he'd become an aggy legend.

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    Let's just wait and see what the WSJ puts into print. It will be interesting if an objective third party believes what I wrote or accepts the aggy version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorTexasFan View Post
    Now I get why Thomas Johnson quit the team mid-season. He was hoping aggy would need him to suit up for the bowl and he'd become an aggy legend.

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    What's bizarre to me is that aggy has now bastardized "12th man" to refer to all sorts of $#@!:

    1) E King Gill
    2) the walk-on player who gets to play special teams
    3) aggy student body
    4) athletic department fundraising arm

    I guess I understand the last one being a descriptor for the foundation, but the other three are distinct, separate entities that are all referred to as "the 12th man".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonesky View Post
    Calling Randolph Duke.



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    Link to CFT post and comments.
    You can't make this stuff up. This must be a Shagster

    mydixienormus says:
    Jan 30, 2014 7:46 PM
    TX A&M peeps are surprisingly proud of their male cheerleaders…

    mgmac says:
    Jan 30, 2014 11:12 PM
    Damn straight King Gill stood there on the sideline. He suited up due to injuries but was not needed. And to the idiot that said something about cheerleaders. Epic fail – they are yell leaders.

    mydixienormus says:
    Jan 31, 2014 6:53 AM
    Mgmac just proved my point. Good job bro.

    I'm not sure mgmac knows the definition of the word "epic"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Mutha View Post
    What's bizarre to me is that aggy has now bastardized "12th man" to refer to all sorts of $#@!:

    1) E King Gill
    2) the walk-on player who gets to play special teams
    3) aggy student body
    4) athletic department fundraising arm

    I guess I understand the last one being a descriptor for the foundation, but the other three are distinct, separate entities that are all referred to as "the 12th man".
    When you aren't quite sure what your story is about how the phrase came to the campus, there will be various off-shoots of the story. I am just amazed at how people who claim to be all about history and tradition are so utterly clueless as to the history of their school and their traditions. I just hope all this helps with trying to get a constitutional amendment before the voters in the next couple of years to end aggy's constitutional status as a branch of the University of Texas. I can't wait to hear the story they tell the world about never being a branch of the University of Texas when it is made unequivocally clear they still are one today.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonesky View Post
    Calling Randolph Duke.
    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph Duke View Post
    Let's just wait and see what the WSJ puts into print. It will be interesting if an objective third party believes what I wrote or accepts the aggy version.
    And, you're expecting this tomorrow, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonesky View Post
    And, you're expecting this tomorrow, right?
    Yep. I'm hoping to see a copy of it tonight. His column is in the Review section. Its on the origins of words and he picked 12th Man as this week's subject.

  12. #412
    The article is up.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...52693935428478

    The Seahawks Pay For An Aggie Phrase
    Jan. 31, 2014 10:15 p.m. ET

    If you ask Seattle Seahawks fans how their team made it to the Super Bowl, they would no doubt point to the power of "the 12th man," as the raucous fan base is known. The noise generated by the crowds at home games drives visiting teams to distraction, much to the delight of the 11 Seahawks on the field.

    The Seahawks have referred to their die-hard fans collectively as "the 12th man" since the early 1980s, using the phrase in promotions and stadium displays and even retiring the number "12" jersey in gratitude. But in 2006, the last time Seattle made it to the Super Bowl, the team was taken to court by Texas A&M University, which had trademarked the phrase in 1990. Ultimately, the Seahawks agreed to pay Texas A&M an upfront licensing fee of $100,000 and a subsequent $5,000 a year.

    For the Aggies of A&M, "the 12th man" is an unassailable element of the school's identity. According to Aggie lore, it all started in a January 1922 game in which the coach found himself short on players in a big game and ended up recruiting a student named E. King Gill from the stands. Gill suited up and stood by the sidelines, the story goes. Though he never played, his willingness to support his team made him a legendary figure at A&M. A statue of Gill was erected outside of the football stadium, and fans stand throughout home games in his honor.

    A&M's claim to the trademark on "the 12th man" rests on the legendary 1922 game giving birth to the expression. But in recent years a University of Texas alumnus who writes under the pen name Randolph Duke has been poking holes in the story. He uncovered a 1912 article in The Iowa Alumnus in which "the loyal spirited Iowa rooter" is called "the 12th man on the team." And even earlier than that, in 1900, a magazine from the University of Minnesota referred to "the mysterious influence of the 12th man on the team, the rooter."

    Referring to impassioned fans as "the 12th man" took hold in football-crazy Texas in the 1920s, and not just at A&M. The earliest example from A&M comes from a November 1921 issue of the college newspaper The Battalion. The timing is a bit troublesome for the Aggies' accepted version of events, as it was a few months before the game that supposedly started it all.

    Adding to the historical murk, there are no known contemporary accounts of Gill's role in the 1922 game—recollections from Gill and others were gathered decades later. Gill himself said the "12th man" legend originated in a 1939 radio play.

    Despite the recent evidence, Shane Hinckley, A&M's interim vice president of marketing and communications, stands by the trademark claim. "We have the longest continued use of the 12th Man mark, dating back to 1922," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph Duke View Post
    The article is up.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...52693935428478

    The Seahawks Pay For An Aggie Phrase
    Jan. 31, 2014 10:15 p.m. ET

    If you ask Seattle Seahawks fans how their team made it to the Super Bowl, they would no doubt point to the power of "the 12th man," as the raucous fan base is known. The noise generated by the crowds at home games drives visiting teams to distraction, much to the delight of the 11 Seahawks on the field.

    The Seahawks have referred to their die-hard fans collectively as "the 12th man" since the early 1980s, using the phrase in promotions and stadium displays and even retiring the number "12" jersey in gratitude. But in 2006, the last time Seattle made it to the Super Bowl, the team was taken to court by Texas A&M University, which had trademarked the phrase in 1990. Ultimately, the Seahawks agreed to pay Texas A&M an upfront licensing fee of $100,000 and a subsequent $5,000 a year.

    For the Aggies of A&M, "the 12th man" is an unassailable element of the school's identity. According to Aggie lore, it all started in a January 1922 game in which the coach found himself short on players in a big game and ended up recruiting a student named E. King Gill from the stands. Gill suited up and stood by the sidelines, the story goes. Though he never played, his willingness to support his team made him a legendary figure at A&M. A statue of Gill was erected outside of the football stadium, and fans stand throughout home games in his honor.

    A&M's claim to the trademark on "the 12th man" rests on the legendary 1922 game giving birth to the expression. But in recent years a University of Texas alumnus who writes under the pen name Randolph Duke has been poking holes in the story. He uncovered a 1912 article in The Iowa Alumnus in which "the loyal spirited Iowa rooter" is called "the 12th man on the team." And even earlier than that, in 1900, a magazine from the University of Minnesota referred to "the mysterious influence of the 12th man on the team, the rooter."

    Referring to impassioned fans as "the 12th man" took hold in football-crazy Texas in the 1920s, and not just at A&M. The earliest example from A&M comes from a November 1921 issue of the college newspaper The Battalion. The timing is a bit troublesome for the Aggies' accepted version of events, as it was a few months before the game that supposedly started it all.

    Adding to the historical murk, there are no known contemporary accounts of Gill's role in the 1922 game—recollections from Gill and others were gathered decades later. Gill himself said the "12th man" legend originated in a 1939 radio play.

    Despite the recent evidence, Shane Hinckley, A&M's interim vice president of marketing and communications, stands by the trademark claim. "We have the longest continued use of the 12th Man mark, dating back to 1922," he said.
    I'll give you pos rep, job well done, but it seems like he bunted when he was given a homerun. But knowing aggy he may have thrown out some bait an will be waiting for their reaction before hitting the jackpot.

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    Good work, Randolph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fartie Tang View Post
    I'll give you pos rep, job well done, but it seems like he bunted when he was given a homerun. But knowing aggy he may have thrown out some bait an will be waiting for their reaction before hitting the jackpot.
    He had a 500 word restriction. For what he had to work with, I think he did well. It took me about ten times that amount to tell the whole story (which he linked to in the story).

    A&M's claim to the trademark on "the 12th man" rests on the legendary 1922 game giving birth to the expression. But in recent years a University of Texas alumnus who writes under the pen name Randolph Duke has been poking holes in the story.
    Referring to impassioned fans as "the 12th man" took hold in football-crazy Texas in the 1920s, and not just at A&M.
    The timing is a bit troublesome for the Aggies' accepted version of events, as it was a few months before the game that supposedly started it all.
    Adding to the historical murk, there are no known contemporary accounts of Gill's role in the 1922 game—recollections from Gill and others were gathered decades later. Gill himself said the "12th man" legend originated in a 1939 radio play.
    Screw you , aggys. Now, go whine at the Wall Street Journal and tell them they have it all wrong. Shane Hinckley sure couldn't refute any of what I wrote.
    Last edited by Randolph Duke; 01-31-2014 at 10:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasToast View Post
    Just wait. We already have the beginnings of the petition to get a state constitutional amendment on the ballot to finally change the legal status of aggy so it is no longer a branch of the University of Texas. http://www.hornsports.com/heard-latest-aggy-joke/

    Just like the aggys said I was all wrong when I shot holes in their beloved 12th Man story, I am sure they will cry, complain, squeeze their nuts and deny they are still legally a branch of UT. They legally still are. Maybe we can also get the constitutional amendment story in the WSJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph Duke View Post
    He had a 500 word restriction. For what he had to work with, I think he did well. It took me about ten times that amount to tell the whole story (which he linked to in the story).

    Screw you , aggys. Now, go whine at the Wall Street Journal and tell them they have it all wrong. Shane Hinckley sure couldn't refute any of what I wrote.

    Didn't know about the restriction. I am guessing if aggy turns the heat up on this story and other outlets pick up on it then he will get his name out as will you. If not in the next few days maybe when the Seahawks say $#@! you to aggy and their 12th man demands in the foreseeable future. Again good work and keep us updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fartie Tang View Post
    Didn't know about the restriction. I am guessing if aggy turns the heat up on this story and other outlets pick up on it then he will get his name out as will you. If not in the next few days maybe when the Seahawks say $#@! you to aggy and their 12th man demands in the foreseeable future. Again good work and keep us updated.
    The Seahawks attys already know the info in the aggy trademark filings is false. If they choose not to pay tamu and instead choose to litigate, the ags will have to claim ignorance (gee, won't that be hard to dispute) and assert they had no knowledge they were using the phrase at least as early as 1921 and the 1922 game had a lot to do with their tradition, but little to do with their use of the term. For aggy to claim they don't know a lot about their own school's history and tradition would be even more emasculating than what we mock them for already.

    My guess is that Seattle saves the litigation money and just renews for $5k/yr as a "nuisance tax." It's their cheapest alternative. Once that bar is firmly established, I see aggy getting a $5k/year nuisance tax from other users when hey can. The new aggy tradition will be collecting a nuisance tax from people gladly willing to pay a few pennies to make them go away. Eventually they will lose that trademark. If they had to make untrue claims in it to obtain it, then they weren't entitled to it in the first place.
    Last edited by Randolph Duke; 01-31-2014 at 11:17 PM.

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    There was an interview with Shane Hinckley on texags, I don't think I need to post a link but he was asked..

    Interviewer: In the event that Seattle refuses to pay us anything after 2016 and tries to claim 12th man has become a general term for fans, how long and how hard is Texas a&m willing to fight that battle in court?

    Shane Hinkley: We would fight that all the way to a decision... Um Eh, an.. and understand for our fans that if a decision is ever made dat dat term has ever been made generic, it doesn't mean Texas a&m can't use it but does mean that we would not be able to stop others from using it. And so we have to be be careful about how far we want to push that.

    Wonder what he meant by that last part, any idea Randolph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fartie Tang View Post
    There was an interview with Shane Hinckley on texags, I don't think I need to post a link but he was asked..

    Interviewer: In the event that Seattle refuses to pay us anything after 2016 and tries to claim 12th man has become a general term for fans, how long and how hard is Texas a&m willing to fight that battle in court?

    Shane Hinkley: We would fight that all the way to a decision... Um Eh, an.. and understand for our fans that if a decision is ever made dat dat term has ever been made generic, it doesn't mean Texas a&m can't use it but does mean that we would not be able to stop others from using it. And so we have to be be careful about how far we want to push that.

    Wonder what he meant by that last part, any idea Randolph?
    I think effectively they no longer have the trademark. Legally, yes. Effectively, no. If someone wants to litigate it, the school has to explain the false representations made in their trademark filing that allowed them to obtain it in the first place.

    Any reasonable attorney is going to point out even today they are claiming it started in 1922 (something even the Wall Street Journal isn't accepting). A representative from tamu will be put under oath and asked if the university's embrace of the phrase did or did not begin in 1922. They will have to say it started in 1922 because that is what they attested to under penalty of perjury to in their filings. The next question will be how the school's embrace of the phrase at least as early as 1921 differed from their claims in the trademark filing they first embraced the phrase in 1922. Game over. The school will not admit under oath they didn't have a clue as to the true nature of their most sacred tradition. They will never defend their trademark against anyone wanting to challenge it in court.

    If they had filed true and accurate trademark filings with the government saying their first use was 1921 (or whenever) and their first use in commerce as 1939 (the radio play) they would have argument, but to claim to be a school that is infused with its history and traditions and then have to state under oath they really don't understand their history or traditions is something the ags simply will not do.
    Last edited by Randolph Duke; 02-01-2014 at 12:03 AM.

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    It stands to reason a team that awards itself fake championships would base its entire existence in fake lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougO View Post
    It stands to reason a team that awards itself fake championships would base its entire existence in fake lore.

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    Randolph, aggy seems to think you might need some professional help...
    http://forums.texags.com/main/forum....528&forum_id=6
    Last edited by WBS; 02-01-2014 at 02:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolph Duke View Post
    I think effectively they no longer have the trademark. Legally, yes. Effectively, no. If someone wants to litigate it, the school has to explain the false representations made in their trademark filing that allowed them to obtain it in the first place.

    Any reasonable attorney is going to point out even today they are claiming it started in 1922 (something even the Wall Street Journal isn't accepting). A representative from tamu will be put under oath and asked if the university's embrace of the phrase did or did not begin in 1922. They will have to say it started in 1922 because that is what they attested to under penalty of perjury to in their filings. The next question will be how the school's embrace of the phrase at least as early as 1921 differed from their claims in the trademark filing they first embraced the phrase in 1922. Game over. The school will not admit under oath they didn't have a clue as to the true nature of their most sacred tradition. They will never defend their trademark against anyone wanting to challenge it in court.

    If they had filed true and accurate trademark filings with the government saying their first use was 1921 (or whenever) and their first use in commerce as 1939 (the radio play) they would have argument, but to claim to be a school that is infused with its history and traditions and then have to state under oath they really don't understand their history or traditions is something the ags simply will not do.
    Am I the only person who wants Baylor to christen their new stadium as "Home of the 12th Man" just to watch Ken Starr litigate the $#@! out of A&M?

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    Baylor will do ANYTHING in its power to avoid anything aggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBS View Post
    Randolph, aggy seems to think you might need some professional help...
    http://forums.texags.com/main/forum....528&forum_id=6
    Lol. I'm not the one believing fake radio plays are true stories. I would think the ones who can't tell truth from fantasy are the ones who need professional help. Having to grasp their 12th Man tradition is fake is tough enough. Imagine what the ags will be like when they start to realize the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy aren't real either. And remember, these people live in the delusion they are intellectuals who attended an elite, world class university.

    By the way, since I am wrong and the fairy tale 12th Man story is true, they are screaming for a retraction, right? The have to demand a retraction or they acknowledge my version is true. Let me know when that retraction is printed. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougO View Post
    It stands to reason a team that awards itself fake championships would base its entire existence in fake lore.
    They should patent a new slogan that no one would challenge "Home of the Pretenders".

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    Stephenville77's reply is a classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenvilleAg77 View Post
    There's only one college in America (ut-austin) that regularly produces neurotic nutcases who are obsessed enough to spend thousands of hours of their free time researching the origins of traditions and school legends of their alma mater's older brother / arch rival (Texas A&M University).
    That's literally the funniest thing I've read all week. It is like it captures all the aggy obsession and delusion in a single sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekyles View Post
    That's literally the funniest thing I've read all week. It is like it captures all the aggy obsession and delusion in a single sentence.
    My personal favorite was the guy who said he got his degree from aggy in history and he could attest to the fact there was no possible way for anyone to tell how many players aggy had for the game or how many were on the sideline available at the end of the game. That statement pretty much exemplified every mocking comment I have ever made about the quality of the education aggy offers. In their quest to be the great online university it's as if they have no knowledge of those mysterious buildings known as "libraries." One phone call to the aggy campus library got be the game day program, a copy of Gill's speech that showed the whole thing originated in 1939 as a radio play and the newspaper accounts of the game that listed the players who weren't available to play and the whopping three substitutions (they call that "injury riddled") during the game.

    Notice not one of them has anything to say about demanding a retraction and not one of them can refute any of the research the WSJ writer and editors also looked at and realized was accurate. Their entire response will be to attack me, deny they ever claimed they originated the phrase or said Gill was the only person on the sideline at the end of the game and then in a few weeks go back to claiming just those two things. They are a fascinating little cult that sticks relentlessly to their strange belief they are morally superior to all others and the world revolves around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekyles View Post
    Stephenville77's reply is a classic.
    I love the "older brother" smack from the ags. Again, their view of the world is so warped. Considering their lack of knowledge about the history of their own school, it will be hilarious to see their reaction when we start pushing for the constitutional amendment to finally end tamu's legal status as a branch of the University of Texas and they have to come to grips with the fact they are today and always have been legally a branch of the University of Texas. For those who ever need the documents to explain their little brother status, they are all in this piece. http://www.hornsports.com/heard-latest-aggy-joke/

    The piece debunking their claim they are responsible for naming Bevo and the rest of my stuff is in this directory in case you ever need the documents to set the ags straight when they start talking smack. http://www.hornsports.com/author/rduke/

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    On second thought, let's not talk about A&M. It is a silly place.

    Agreed?

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    Randolph, can you explain why you have done so much research into aggy history. I know you claimed originally that this was part of a bet with a friend but you said that was over. Wouldn't your time be better spent researching our actual rival?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBS View Post
    Randolph, can you explain why you have done so much research into aggy history. I know you claimed originally that this was part of a bet with a friend but you said that was over. Wouldn't your time be better spent researching our actual rival?
    The bet was that I could get him to admit the ags had every attribute of a cult. He just thought they were another state university in Texas. He had no idea of their culture.

    The research started because I wondered why the story wasn't better explained. I never thought to look into exactly why it wasn't better told until someone on one of the other boards clued me in to the fact that on googlebooks there was some info indicating the ags hadn't actually originated the term. I send a few minutes and found the item the person referenced. Then I decided to pull the newspaper stories of the game to see when the sportswriters said about the whole incident. When I learned not a one of them had a word to say about the ags experiencing any significant number of injuries and absolutely nothing about E. King Gill, I knew the real story was going to be nothing like what the ags had been claiming for decades (and I was right).

    What I don't get is that the administration at tamu had to know their "tradition" was based on a fraudulent story when they filled out the trademark application that contains the false information. That they knew the information in the trademark application was untrue and seemingly still attested to its truthfulness under penalty of perjury in a federal filing is what I don't get. At the very least, I think they need to re-file their application with correct information or notify the USPTO in writing of the error and make sure that letter is publicly available so when they send their cease and desist letters the recipients understand what the situation is. After all, tamu officials are public officials ( and there is also that pesky honor code thing).

    The debunking of the myth that they had anything to do with the naming of Bevo was something Jim Nicar did a while ago. If you don't know of Jim's work, its really good stuff and can be found here:http://jimnicar.com/tag/jim-nicar/

    The work documenting the fact that aggy is still legally a branch of the University of Texas came about just because I was wondering just when the University of Texas was established by the legislature (Feb 11, 1858). That explained how the ag college was started in 1876 as a branch of the university which had been established 18 years earlier and because of the Civil War the state hadn't gotten around to building facilities. They set aside $100,000 in 1858 to fund the university, but invested that money in confederate debt during the war and at the end of the war, the endowment that today is in the tens of billions was worth $0.57.

    I find the history of the University of Texas interesting, because it ties in so strongly to the history of the state of Texas, and being a Texan, it's nice to know what is historical truth and what is made up myth and, in the case of a lot of aggy's "traditions." pure fairy tales. I would be pretty much embarrassed to claim to be an educated individual with a degree from a respectable institution and be thinking fairy tales were actually true. I'd be angry if I found out the traditions of my university that I had been taught were mostly false accounts and those running the university had known the entire time the stories were falsified to give the students an inflated sense of their self importance and hide the institution's real history.

    As for our actual rival, I have a great piece on the UT/OU rivalry that will come out this summer, closer to the beginning of the season. That is a piece that required a number of hours to research because there were so many side stories to check out and then document. Right now, I'm trying to find retired Dallas police officers who worked Commerce Street during the Texas/OU weekend and see if they have any interesting stories to add.
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    Total beauty Randolph. I always liked $#@! like this because you can see the clear difference in class and intelligence between someone like you and those delusional hayseed hernias. It's nice to see that aggy is worse than originally anticipated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerHorns View Post
    Total beauty Randolph. I always liked $#@! like this because you can see the clear difference in class and intelligence between someone like you and those delusional hayseed hernias. It's nice to see that aggy is worse than originally anticipated.
    Their reaction isn't to discuss whether the information is correct or not. Rather they are like ants when their mound is kicked. They get themselves into a frenzy and then decide en masse to strike out and personally attack the individual they feel is responsible. I can't imagine two scientists learning of some discovery deciding to personally attack of "ruin" the individual who came up with the new finding.

    The essence of educational advancement is to build upon previous beliefs and apply new findings to form a more accurate understanding of the world in which we live. The aggy response is to deny the new information exists, silence the individual who developed it (by physical violence, if necessary) and cling to previous beliefs, even though they are known to be untrue. That in itself is cult mentality. Its the same as the guy with the sword at the SMU game and the reaction to the Rice MOB in the 70s. They just can't handle it when people disturb the world as they see it. All I have done is write about information their university administrators have been trying to keep quiet for decades. They should be mad at their university officials for distorting the truth, not at me for bringing it out into the open. They should be mad at Jason Cook, Bowtie Loftin and the rest of them, not at me. It's as if I have spoken the truth that shall not be spoken and Allah had directed them to silence the infidel.
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    Everyone outside of CS knows we were calling Bevo "Bevo" about 2 years before they branded him

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    Christ, I hate going to texags. My iq drops every time. Those $#@!ers are ignorant though. How is that site gonna ruin Randolph's life? Lol

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    On a semi-related topic, not long ago, aggy was calling for a boycott of ESPN (or "ESPiN, as they called it) because of its so-called biased reporting and the formation of the Longhorn Network. So how does aggy feel about the evil ESPN creating the SEC ESPN Network? Are they planning to boycott the new network, decline its revenue, and decry its unfair recruiting advantage?

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    Things I learned today:
    The 12th man is a huge deal to A&M unless you release information that it's just a made up story for the most part, then it's not a big deal and you're obsessed for making it a huge deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born Burnt View Post
    On a semi-related topic, not long ago, aggy was calling for a boycott of ESPN (or "ESPiN, as they called it) because of its so-called biased reporting and the formation of the Longhorn Network. So how does aggy feel about the evil ESPN creating the SEC ESPN Network? Are they planning to boycott the new network, decline its revenue, and decry its unfair recruiting advantage?
    Apparently they are pretty cool when they are praising aggy.

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    A friend asked what Aggies thought about Seahawks using 12th man. Couple responses, couple people calling bull$#@!. Then one guy (not me) dropped the WSJ article saying "relevant paragraphs 2 and 4." LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipperj View Post
    A friend asked what Aggies thought about Seahawks using 12th man. Couple responses, couple people calling bull$#@!. Then one guy (not me) dropped the WSJ article saying "relevant paragraphs 2 and 4." LOL.
    lol. The WSJ article is going to be the gift that keeps on giving. The writer was a professional etymologist writing for a publication with global credibility. Between their editors and their fact checkers, I am comfortable using what the guy wrote as a credible source.

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    Good job, sir.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Randolph Duke again.
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    Mentioned the story to lawyerwife over dinner and she called the $5k nuisance value.

    100% perfect concept relating to Aggies. All the awkward smiles you give a stranger Ag who acts a fool once he finds out you're a Longhorn and "Yeah, mmhmm, it sure is a great rivalry and I am very interested in all of this smack talk" social nicety... mother$#@! nuisance value.

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    SIAP but aggy now suing local Seattle-area breweries...

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...an-5193721.php

    I probably would have told them to go $#@! themselves since a tasty IPA and a bunch of Hitler youth-Nazi sheep-$#@!ing retards have nothing in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_teammate View Post
    Mentioned the story to lawyerwife over dinner and she called the $5k nuisance value.

    100% perfect concept relating to Aggies. All the awkward smiles you give a stranger Ag who acts a fool once he finds out you're a Longhorn and "Yeah, mmhmm, it sure is a great rivalry and I am very interested in all of this smack talk" social nicety... mother$#@! nuisance value.
    The writer from the WSJ found me from the edits I did back when the "tell me about aggy" thread was alive in the summer of 2012. I found the Univof Iowa publication then and tried to update the wiki page to show they didn't originate the term in 1922. The pushback from the ags was amazing and once I figured out what was going on, I managed to get the edit in. The WSJ reporter read the back and forth between myself and the ags that was finally settled by the Wiki editor, got my name from that and hunted me down. I won't go into detail about our discussion, but suffice to say the impression of TAMU within the confines of the WSJ is pretty much spot on. This afternoon I tried to update the 12th Man wiki page with the 1900 reference and, once again, the ag pushback was quick and it ended with an extended back and forth until the Wiki editor restored my edits and locked the page. Wikipedia isn't all that major of an organization, but the WSJ is a global entity. The impressions the ags are making on these organizations isn't all that positive. They sure don't have a decent impression of the ags up in Seattle. They wanted to be known on a bigger stage. Looks like they are getting what they asked for.

    As for the trademark, I seriously doubt they ever get more than nuisance value for it moving forward. They will never litigate because they can't risk defending what seems to be intentionally false and misleading info in the filings to obtain it. At the end of the day, their most cherished tradition seems to be heading its way to being considered a nuisance to more and more people outside of "aggieland." To think the exposure the term is getting with Seattle in the Superbowl won't encourage more and more teams to start using it would be naive. They have a big problem on their hands for the next few years. They get to be considered a nuisance by an ever growing group of organizations and individuals or they have to litigate and probably lose the trademark and have the fact they filed a false and misleading declaration when they applied for it. I would love to read the transcript of their response to the false filing and how it conforms to their honor code. The attys will have a field day if they ever get an aggy representative under oath.

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