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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolverk View Post
    The closest I ever came to getting caught was sneaking out of the house with my friend, Brad (a future Hell Raiser). We watched Kasandra and Angela frolic in their panties through the blinds but nothing more. When we arrived at my parents' place, my Dad caught us and made us pull weeds the whole next day.

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    Bet she never lies ever again.

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    "If you take a life, you give your life," Zakia McCormick said behind tears. "We're suffering. Why isn't he suffering, too?"
    Both said they want the 55-year-old father charged with murder and sentenced to life in prison. He has not been arrested or charged with a crime.


    "It wasn't an accident," Curley said. "You don't shoot someone in the head on accident."


    The day of the shooting, McCormick and Curley thought their son was still in New Orleans for spring break and was not due home until Sunday.
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    Who the hell lets their jr in high school kid go to New Orleans with buddies for Spring Break?

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    I feel for the mom, but she's just wrong.

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    His sister, 14-year-old Diamond, said he was all the things a big brother should be - kind, cruel and always comedic. She was looking forward to being a high school freshman next year while he would be a senior.
    She's gonna end up on the pole.

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    Purgatory from pussy didn't last long though...he actually helped me change the break pads on my old POS Cutlass a couple months later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slorch View Post
    castle doctrine and someone $#@!ing your 16 year old daughter isn't enough reason to shoot someone?
    If you truly believe that it is, then you're $#@!ed up

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    Leave it to Daily Mail in the UK to have more and much better photos of this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-daughter.html

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    Bet you 9 billion dollars the kid was reaching for his phone when Dad shot him. Nobody's going anywhere without the phone.

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    I am conflicted here. It's easy to get the Dad's side of the story. He is alive to tell his story. Conveniently, $#@!ing conveniently, his daughter says, "I don't know who this is"

    Bull$#@!. Maybe she knows she is in such deep $#@! that she decided to go with her Dad's story. I don't think he should just get off. A baseball bat, beat the kids ass. Don't kill him.


    If it was some stranger sneaking through the window to rape his daughter, she would have screamed and shouted. It looks like a middle class house. it's not that big. The dad would have heard her scream. Makes me think he knows it was his daughter banging somebody and he overreacted.

    This happened to my friends sister back in 93. His dad caught her boyfriend banging her and he beat his ass and threw him out of the house naked. lol

    Still, I disagree with you guys that are saying he deserved it and the dad should walk. Too convenient.

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    If it was some stranger sneaking through the window to rape his daughter, she would have screamed and shouted.
    Not necessarily.

    We have no idea what the hell happened. I haven't seen $#@! that makes me think putting this man in prison does anyone any good other than to appease a grieving mother. We worried this guy is going to kill more naked people in his daughter's room at 2:30AM that she claims she doesn't know and didn't let in?

    Man was hospitalized because he had a panic attack after shooting the guy. This ain't Jeffrey Dahmer. It's a completely $#@!ed situation.
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    Only question I have at this point is how culpable is the daughter for the murder. I'm not so sure she shouldn't be charged as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    I am conflicted here. It's easy to get the Dad's side of the story. He is alive to tell his story. Conveniently, $#@!ing conveniently, his daughter says, "I don't know who this is"

    Bull$#@!. Maybe she knows she is in such deep $#@! that she decided to go with her Dad's story. I don't think he should just get off. A baseball bat, beat the kids ass. Don't kill him.


    If it was some stranger sneaking through the window to rape his daughter, she would have screamed and shouted. It looks like a middle class house. it's not that big. The dad would have heard her scream. Makes me think he knows it was his daughter banging somebody and he overreacted.

    This happened to my friends sister back in 93. His dad caught her boyfriend banging her and he beat his ass and threw him out of the house naked. lol

    Still, I disagree with you guys that are saying he deserved it and the dad should walk. Too convenient.

    He didn't "deserve it", but the dad should walk. It's a $#@!ed up situation, and a complete no-win for the DA.

    There will be enormous political pressure to prosecute (Al and Jesse on the scene yet?), but at the end of the day, all living witnesses are related, and their testimony has no reason to change from their initial statements to police.

    Yet, there will be suffering. Aside from the mental anguish of te father, and the guiltl of the daughter, figure $150k defense if one of them ends up being charged.
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    "Every day one of us would tell him, 'Don't go by no little girl's house if her parents don't know you,' " Curley said.
    Really? Reminded of this daily, yet still does it, and why remind daily of such a specific matter? Seems he became chicken little to his ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCSpur View Post
    He didn't "deserve it", but the dad should walk. It's a $#@!ed up situation, and a complete no-win for the DA.

    There will be enormous political pressure to prosecute (Al and Jesse on the scene yet?), but at TE end of TE day, all living witnesses are related, and their testimony has no reason to change from their initial statements to police.

    Yet, there will be suffering. Aside from the mental anguish of te father, and the guiltl of the daughter, figure $150k defense if one of them ends up being charged.
    He's wheel chair bound, but I know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    Only question I have at this point is how culpable is the daughter for the murder. I'm not so sure she shouldn't be charged as well.
    As well ....??? No one has been charged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Taylor View Post
    As well ....??? No one has been charged
    Yea no $#@!, but its a no brainer for me that the dad should be charged, arguable IMO that the daughter should be charged as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    Only question I have at this point is how culpable is the daughter for the murder. I'm not so sure she shouldn't be charged as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    Yea no $#@!, but its a no brainer for me that the dad should be charged, arguable IMO that the daughter should be charged as well.
    Are you guys saying the dad should be charged? And charged with what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrothaHorn View Post
    Are you guys saying the dad should be charged? And charged with what?
    I am saying he should be charged, and with a murder charge.

    If someone that lives in your house invites someone into your dwelling, you shouldn't have the right to kill them if they are posing no physical threat to anyone.

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    As far as he knew at that time, no one invited the kid in. I would think a stranger in your house is a threat.

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    Man y'all are $#@!ing crazy if you think the dad should be charged. You don't go into a man's house uninvited and expect a red $#@!ing carpet. I might've handled it differently but I not have. One does not simply climb into a window an not expect the possibility of being shot in the middle of the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUram View Post
    As far as he knew at that time, no one invited the kid in. I would think a stranger in your house is a threat.
    And where does the responsibility as a parent and gun owner come into play here. He wasn't responding to one of his kids in distress, but one of the kids stating someone else was in the home. Who knows, the other kid may have owed his sibling one and was just trying to get her in trouble. A stranger to you may not be a stranger to someone else in the home. His daughter outright lied to him. The kid lost his life, someone needs to be pay for that.

    And are we really going to act like two kids sneaking around to $#@! is rightfully punishable by death? And he was obviously invited by the girl.

    I mean raise your hand if you have ever politely ask a chick's father to $#@! prior to digging all in his sweet innocent daughters guts. Yea, I didn't think so.

    I swear some of you lose all common sense when it comes to certain situations when it involves a gun being used.
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    He was invited.

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    I think the responsibility of a parent and gun owner is to protect your family from intruders in your own home, maybe? You and I have all the time in the world to analyze this with 20/20 hindsight vision, buy the dad didn't.

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    If one does it the old fashioned way and charms the $#@! out of her parents, you can $#@! the girl at will. So I've heard.

    Sneaking into her bedroom in the wee hours always presents a risk. Granted, I grew up in texas but I always assumed a shotgun could be in play. Suburban texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUram View Post
    I think the responsibility of a parent and gun owner is to protect your family from intruders in your own home, maybe? You and I have all the time in the world to analyze this with 20/20 hindsight vision, buy the dad didn't.
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    The issue isn't what we know, it's what the father knew a the time and the actions of the deceased. In the accounts that I have read, there was an altercation between the dad and the kid, the end of which was the dad putting a round in the kid's brain housing unit. The kid's presence in the house, how he got in, and what he was doing played into the situation, but the shoot/no shoot decision was made as a result of the altercation. I don't think that the kid was executed for banging the daughter, or even for being a stranger in the house. He committed the often fatal mistake of arguing with a man with a gun and lost the argument.

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    why argue with a man holding a gun? kid sounds like a dumbass.

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    again, only the Dad gets to tell his account of what happened. I used to sneak into my gf room back in the day. Her biker dad (lived the lifestyle) slept in the next room. I was afraid of getting caught and getting my ass kicked. Not shot and killed.

    if this kid was my son, I would feel the same. Nobody gets to kill my kid and go.... aww shucks, sorry, $#@! happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    again, only the Dad gets to tell his account of what happened. I used to sneak into my gf room back in the day. Her biker dad (lived the lifestyle) slept in the next room. I was afraid of getting caught and getting my ass kicked. Not shot and killed.

    if this kid was my son, I would feel the same. Nobody gets to kill my kid and go.... aww shucks, sorry, $#@! happens.

    You never considered the fact that he might have a gun? Or you thought that he had more control over his emotions after seeing you $#@!ing his daughter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUram View Post
    I think the responsibility of a parent and gun owner is to protect your family from intruders in your own home, maybe? You and I have all the time in the world to analyze this with 20/20 hindsight vision, buy the dad didn't.
    There was no intuder and no threat to anyone in the home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    And where does the responsibility as a parent and gun owner come into play here. He wasn't responding to one of his kids in distress, but one of the kids stating someone else was in the home. Who knows, the other kid may have owed his sibling one and was just trying to get her in trouble. A stranger to you may not be a stranger to someone else in the home. His daughter outright lied to him. The kid lost his life, someone needs to be pay for that.

    And are we really going to act like two kids sneaking around to $#@! is rightfully punishable by death? And he was obviously invited by the girl.

    I mean raise your hand if you have ever politely ask a chick's father to $#@! prior to digging all in his sweet innocent daughters guts. Yea, I didn't think so.

    I swear some of you lose all common sense when it comes to certain situations when it involves a gun being used.
    You should probably google the concept of mens rea

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    There was no intuder and no threat to anyone in the home.
    If the daughter told the dad that she didn't know who he was, why would the dad think he wasn't an intruder?

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    I have a 19 month old daughter. I hope I realize some kid $#@!ing her when she is a teenager is not a capital offense. The boyfriend had no gun. The dad's side of the story is just so convenient. And what girl goes "Dad, I don't know who this is. Who is this person?" when she gets caught banging him in her room.

    Bull$#@! story from the Dad and the daughter. He got pissed, killed the kid. Now the daughters story is just so perfect as an excuse. "OMG, who is this?? Dad, I don't know who this is?"

    yall go ahead and believe that. And for you pro gun folks, yes, i have a glock 40 in my closet. So I am not anti gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    And where does the responsibility as a parent and gun owner come into play here. He wasn't responding to one of his kids in distress, but one of the kids stating someone else was in the home. Who knows, the other kid may have owed his sibling one and was just trying to get her in trouble. A stranger to you may not be a stranger to someone else in the home. His daughter outright lied to him. The kid lost his life, someone needs to be pay for that.

    And are we really going to act like two kids sneaking around to $#@! is rightfully punishable by death? And he was obviously invited by the girl.

    I mean raise your hand if you have ever politely ask a chick's father to $#@! prior to digging all in his sweet innocent daughters guts. Yea, I didn't think so.

    I swear some of you lose all common sense when it comes to certain situations when it involves a gun being used.
    I agree completely. I can't 100% say the Dad should be charged with murder but he $#@!ing murdered a kid. It's not a political debate, the guy murdered a kid who from all accounts broke no laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    again, only the Dad gets to tell his account of what happened. I used to sneak into my gf room back in the day. Her biker dad (lived the lifestyle) slept in the next room. I was afraid of getting caught and getting my ass kicked. Not shot and killed.

    if this kid was my son, I would feel the same. Nobody gets to kill my kid and go.... aww shucks, sorry, $#@! happens.
    I get what you are saying. But, he knew you right? That's a big difference.

    At 2am in my child's room, my understanding will be ZERO! Especially when she's told me she doesn't know him. I damn sure don't know who he is. You watch the news, you know how much crazy $#@! happens. And kids these days are just as likely to have to have a gun as the dad. So you can understand his not waiting to discuss this rationally.

    Now since we've found out the lil heffa was lying she should be punished. I think IRA kneecapings would be perfect.

    And as for the boy, getting killed is an occupational hazard of sneaking into a strange man's house. Should have stayed his ass in New Orleans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrothaHorn View Post
    I get what you are saying. But, he knew you right? That's a big difference.

    At 2am in my child's room, my understanding will be ZERO! Especially when she's told me she doesn't know him. I damn sure don't know who he is. You watch the news, you know how much crazy $#@! happens. And kids these days are just as likely to have to have a gun as the dad. So you can understand his not waiting to discuss this rationally.

    Now since we've found out the lil heffa was lying she should be punished. I think IRA kneecapings would be perfect.

    And as for the boy, getting killed is an occupational hazard of sneaking into a strange man's house. Should have stayed his ass in New Orleans.
    As a parent, when it comes to dealing with situations your kids may find themselves in your understanding needs to be much higher than 0. It shouldn't be outside your realm of thought that a teenage kid of yours could possibly lie to you to save face in certain situations especially in one like this. Instead we'll absolve the adult of being responsible as a parent and as a gun owner and instead put all the onus on a kid doing thing kids do. Let's not blame the dad for not being able to control his emotions and instead allowing himself to kill an innocent kid that was no threat to him or anyone else in the home. Instead of kicking the kid out, and parenting his daughter and dealing with the boys parents instead he pulls the trigger.

    And oh, the convenient excuse that he was reaching for something. Yea ok. I'm getting sick of this type of $#@!, maybe we should be encouraging our youth to start packing as well, because obviously when they are in these type of situations its either kill or be killed, because if they are killed, they'll receive the blame and the majority won't blink an eye at it.

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    Maybe we should encourage them to not get into these situations in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    As a parent, when it comes to dealing with situations your kids may find themselves in your understanding needs to be much higher than 0. It shouldn't be outside your realm of thought that a teenage kid of yours could possibly lie to you to save face in certain situations especially in one like this. Instead we'll absolve the adult of being responsible as a parent and as a gun owner and instead put all the onus on a kid doing thing kids do. Let's not blame the dad for not being able to control his emotions and instead allowing himself to kill an innocent kid that was no threat to him or anyone else in the home. Instead of kicking the kid out, and parenting his daughter and dealing with the boys parents instead he pulls the trigger.

    And oh, the convenient excuse that he was reaching for something. Yea ok. I'm getting sick of this type of $#@!, maybe we should be encouraging our youth to start packing as well, because obviously when they are in these type of situations its either kill or be killed, because if they are killed, they'll receive the blame and the majority won't blink an eye at it.
    Perfect case of Monday morning quarterbacking.

    Do you know what the conversation was between father and daughter? How many times did he ask her if she knew this guy? Did he beg her to just tell the truth, before this escalated? What was the conversation between father and the boy? He's supposed to automatically be suspicious that his daughter is lying? But believe the stranger (to him) in his house at 2am? Can you answer of those questions with the information we have?

    It's 2am, not 5pm. And, this isn't Family Ties or Family Matters. Was he supposed to get everybody together in the living room and have a nice talk? We can only guess to what was going on in his mind during this. Hope for the best, but expect the worse.

    Maybe he does get charged. But, with the information out there, I don't see it. It's sad that it happened, the kid ain't blameless.

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    Does anybody not question the perfect scenario for the Dad? The daughter shouts, "who is this, OMG intruder intruder" (not exact words) but what teen girl getting caught in bed says that? Usually it will go. "omg Dad, im sorry im so sorry. omg Dad, don't hurt him, sorry, sorry sorry" Tears tears tears. So the Dad has that part of the story covered. then, the kid reaches for it. (the gun supposedly) Maybe he was reaching for his underwear or blue jeans. That would be my natural reaction if i was the kid. Go for my clothes to get the $#@! out of there.

    Shot in the head?? why not the torso??? bigger target. I would be afraid I would miss the head in the heat of the moment with all the adrenaline pumping if i were the shooter. He must have been right on top of him. If it was dark, wouldn't the body make more sense? Could it be the dad had the gun in the kids mouth saying "you little punk mother $#@!er, $#@! you $#@!ing my daughter. eat this gun mother $#@!er" then pops him in the head... Why is that not a believable story? why? because the dead kid can't tell that story.

    are some of you just so pro gun that you will not think about this rationally? Maybe for one single time, just once, the home owner/shooter $#@!ed up and killed somebody when he should not have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    Does anybody not question the perfect scenario for the Dad? The daughter shouts, "who is this, OMG intruder intruder" (not exact words) but what teen girl getting caught in bed says that? Usually it will go. "omg Dad, im sorry im so sorry. omg Dad, don't hurt him, sorry, sorry sorry" Tears tears tears. So the Dad has that part of the story covered. then, the kid reaches for it. (the gun supposedly) Maybe he was reaching for his underwear or blue jeans. That would be my natural reaction if i was the kid. Go for my clothes to get the $#@! out of there.

    Shot in the head?? why not the torso??? bigger target. I would be afraid I would miss the head in the heat of the moment with all the adrenaline pumping if i were the shooter. He must have been right on top of him. If it was dark, wouldn't the body make more sense? Could it be the dad had the gun in the kids mouth saying "you little punk mother $#@!er, $#@! you $#@!ing my daughter. eat this gun mother $#@!er" then pops him in the head... Why is that not a believable story? why? because the dead kid can't tell that story.

    are some of you just so pro gun that you will not think about this rationally? Maybe for one single time, just once, the home owner/shooter $#@!ed up and killed somebody when he should not have.
    Should he have killed him? No. Do I understand why he killed him? Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    Does anybody not question the perfect scenario for the Dad? The daughter shouts, "who is this, OMG intruder intruder" (not exact words) but what teen girl getting caught in bed says that? Usually it will go. "omg Dad, im sorry im so sorry. omg Dad, don't hurt him, sorry, sorry sorry" Tears tears tears. So the Dad has that part of the story covered. then, the kid reaches for it. (the gun supposedly) Maybe he was reaching for his underwear or blue jeans. That would be my natural reaction if i was the kid. Go for my clothes to get the $#@! out of there.

    Shot in the head?? why not the torso??? bigger target. I would be afraid I would miss the head in the heat of the moment with all the adrenaline pumping if i were the shooter. He must have been right on top of him. If it was dark, wouldn't the body make more sense? Could it be the dad had the gun in the kids mouth saying "you little punk mother $#@!er, $#@! you $#@!ing my daughter. eat this gun mother $#@!er" then pops him in the head... Why is that not a believable story? why? because the dead kid can't tell that story.

    are some of you just so pro gun that you will not think about this rationally? Maybe for one single time, just once, the home owner/shooter $#@!ed up and killed somebody when he should not have.
    Very reasonable. Could be what happened. But all we know is what we have been told. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

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    That father doesn't deserve to be charged. But he does deserve the experience of having his daughter sent away to jail for a good long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrothaHorn View Post
    Perfect case of Monday morning quarterbacking.

    Do you know what the conversation was between father and daughter? How many times did he ask her if she knew this guy? Did he beg her to just tell the truth, before this escalated? What was the conversation between father and the boy? He's supposed to automatically be suspicious that his daughter is lying? But believe the stranger (to him) in his house at 2am? Can you answer of those questions with the information we have?

    It's 2am, not 5pm. And, this isn't Family Ties or Family Matters. Was he supposed to get everybody together in the living room and have a nice talk? We can only guess to what was going on in his mind during this. Hope for the best, but expect the worse.

    Maybe he does get charged. But, with the information out there, I don't see it. It's sad that it happened, the kid ain't blameless.
    The girl obviously wasn't screaming rape when he walked in, so yes at that point the parent needs to have and keep a reasonable state of mind especially when he has a gun in his possession. As a gun owner let alone a parent that should be his responsibility, to correctly assess the situation, you know, before robbing a young kid of their life. Sure the kid could have passed on the pussy, but for all we know they likely could have performed this act seamlessly before, but the adult is much more to blame here than the kid.

    Its like some of you can't help but associate the majority of the blame on the person without the deadly weapon every time a situation like this comes about.

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    All rape victims don't scream, during or after. Don't you SVU, bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverwenttoUT View Post
    The girl obviously wasn't screaming rape when he walked in, so yes at that point the parent needs to have and keep a reasonable state of mind especially when he has a gun in his possession. As a gun owner let alone a parent that should be his responsibility, to correctly assess the situation, you know, before robbing a young kid of their life. Sure the kid could have passed on the pussy, but for all we know they likely could have performed this act seamlessly before, but the adult is much more to blame here than the kid.

    Its like some of you can't help but associate the majority of the blame on the person without the deadly weapon every time a situation like this comes about.
    Maybe he thought she was being raped at knife/gun point? How was he to know the kid wasn't armed? You're asking him to process all of this information after being woke to a possible nightmare. He may even agree that he could have done better. But that's after the fact.

    Did I miss the part of the story, where dad goes out looking for this kid to shoot? Or busts in the room and starts shooting? The kid is far from blameless in this. He was somewhere he wasn't supposed to be. Doesn't matter if was the 1st time or the 31st time. He wasn't supposed to be there. At 17, he's old enough to understand the risk involved. His parents even warned him about stuff like this. So, yeah I put the majority of the blame on him.

    Or, maybe daddy didn't like some lil $#@! in his daughter's bed? And that's why he shot him.

    Until the facts say different, I'll give my benefit of the doubt to the father.
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