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    L'Auberge poker room review/trip report

    So after years of rumors of them opening a poker room L'Auberge Du Lac in Lake Charles finally did this past July. I finally make my way out there this past weekend, (I dont head to the boats during football season that much), and I was very impressed.

    Its only 7 tables, but all the tables had games running. They had 6 2/5 games and 1 low limit game (dont know/care the details on it). Roger the former poker room manager years ago from The Isle is running this place, I always thought he did as good a job as he could with that $#@!hole.

    Things i like
    -they allow straddle and mississsippi straddle, great for action and the isle did not all the mississippi version
    -allow headphones/phone use. the isle finally relented on the headphones a year ago or so, but they still hassle you about using your phone in a hand.
    -NO 1/2 games. This is big time for me, i love playing 2/5, but hate it when both 1/2 and 2/5 are spread at a place. The monkeys that just want to play poker as cheaply as possible are at 1/2 and the 2/5 game is a bit tougher. Without 1/2 in the mix if you want to play poker, you play 2/5. Beautiful.
    -Chairs/tables/chips are all way nicer than the isle
    -all tables have auto shufflers
    -all tables have the players card system built into the table, wehre the dealers scan you in/out. you get $1/hr in comps which is like quadruple what the isle gave you. also if you didnt remember to go and check out at the floor with the isle your play would not get recorded. total bs. this is the same system they have at MGM in vegas and other joints. good $#@!. dealers also know your names beacuse it displays on the screen.
    -room is right in middle of casino. kinda like ballys in vegas. i really like this, even thought it can be more noisy/distracting, it is much more inviting to the recreational player. they can just walk by and say 'hey, this is that $#@! i saw on TV, i wanna play. as opposed to having to hike to a different boat and up to the 3rd floor. more fish = more fun.
    -TVs that actually work. It was $#@!ing ridiculous at the isle how 3 of the 6 tvs would be broke and the ones that worked looked like they were rigged up with a coat hanger. it required an act of congress to get one of the tvs changed also.
    -its just a nicer place in general, hot chicks dont want to go to the isle, they are all over the place at laburge. the isle always felt a little dirty and made you feel like a scumbag.

    They only negative i could say would be the size of the room, although if they stay really busy i can see them expanding.

    Overall the isle is getting what they deserved. After Harrahs blew away they were the only game in town and acted like it. Eliminating the free hot dogs, cutting down on promotions, straight up stealing from rebuy tourney buyins, terrible customer service, outdated technology, dirty ass room, grumpy dealers, worthless floor, and outdated/stupid rules. I dont see myself ever setting foot in that place again. I did check it out before heading to L'Auberge on saturday, they had 5 tables running, 2 1/2 games and 1 2/5. Very little action. A far cry from a couple years ago when all 28 tables would be full with a list on a saturday.

    I was on an extended hiatus since the WSOP last year, and this was the first time i have played poker since then... pretty insane for someone that used to play every weekend, but i just needed some time off and to clear my head.

    i did ok, played for a couple hours cashed out up 250 went to bw3 to watch the ufc, then went back for a few hours, up 400 on session 2, then drove home. I only played for about 5 hours but was satisfied with the session.

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    Well done... both on the report and the winnings. Wish I could say I did better at Choctaw, but bad beats/poker playing will do that to me sometimes.. .

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    thanks for the report.
    I'm going to have to sneak over there next time I head to Houston.

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    main thing is they have obviously taken player feedback in mind when designing the room and are open to suggestions. at the isle it was basically this is what we do, deal with it. i had a convo with a manager at the isle telling them what they needed to change and improve and said "if laberge ever gets their act together and opens a room you guys are going under" he responded with basically a shrug and said they werent ever opening a room.

    now a couple years later isle is selling off that boat and moving to shreveport
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    If you download the app BravoPoker you can see what tables are open and what stakes they are running at L'Auberge. It's the same system they use at Venetian, Caesers, etc.

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    i can't wait to go lose money at this new poker room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M C Orange View Post
    i can't wait to go lose money at this new poker room.
    Please pay me for the MNC game before you do this..kthxbai

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    See you there this Saturday!

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    The reason you say you like the 2/5 only is the reason I want 1/2 and won't go to any of the Louisiana casinos that don't have 1-2. Now of course you are a better poker player than I which is why you would play 2/5 regardless I assume.

    Years ago I played the 2/5 at Harrah's in Lake Charles and that was my game of choice but I'm not as good as I once was (lack of hands really)... The last time I played poker in a casino was 1/2 at Choktaw just north of Dallas...

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    Interesting this thread just got bumped today because I just got back from my 2nd trip to the LDL poker room on Saturday night. Had my best ever single session at 2/5 and only played for about 4.5 hours.

    Showed up and there were 35 people on the list for 6 tables of 2/5, after a $20 handshake with the floor manager, I got a seat about 10 minutes later. Bought in with $500 and one of the first hands I played was 22, floped a boat, turned quads, won about $350. I took town mostly smaller pots and built my stack, suprsingly I never got caught with my pants down, which is not normal for my style.

    There were 2 pretty interesting pots:
    One I had JJ on the button, raised to 30, 2 players on my right called. They were the 2 most aggressive and better players at the table. Flop KQ3, guy on my right (young asian guy) bets $25, which was a weird amount to bet for that size pot so i called as did the other guy. Turn was a J, which gives me a set, its checked to me and I bet $75, young asian guy calls. River is a 4. young asian guy thinks for a bit, and starts trying to talk to me, then bets $500... I was not expecting that and start trying to figure out what he is doing. Only thing im really scared of is if he had A10 and just bet the flop trying to take it down, then hit the gut shot. i ended up calling and he showed air.

    After that hand my stack waivered between $2000 and $2500 and I was getting ready to leave to drive back to houston. Right before i leave this hadn happens. Young black guy wanders over to the table filling one of the 3 empty seats. About 30 seconds later 3 new people show up to take their seats, but there are only 2 left. Floor comes over and asks young black guy who told him he could move without getting transferred, blah blah, and caused a delay and a little drama. Floor ends up letting young black guy stay in the seat. Next hand, he straddles to $10. 4 people call including me with Js8c, young black guy raises to $45 and everyone calls. Flop is 10h9c7c, jackpot for me... i set there for a second and before i could act, young black guy bets out of turn $125, dealer asks if i checked, i said " i guess i did". one player calls and its back to me. I have the nuts, and the pot is already ~$500, since I am planning on leaving soon and am satisfied with my session, I would be happy to take the pot right now instead of trying to milk more of out the 2 players on this board, i have a bad feeling young black guy has a flush draw. Young black guy has about 1k behind and other guy has like $100 left.

    I have $2k left in my stack and shove out 2 stacks of green for a bet of $1000. young black guy instacalls other guy folds, he has 10cKc, top pair K kicker and a flush draw. That was exactly what i didnt watn to see, as i dont feel like fading clubs in a 2.5k pot. Turn is a K giving him 2 pair and 4 more outs. River is an A. i sit back down in my seat and stack my chips. Floor manager (the guy I greased and also the guy that got into it with young black guy over table transfer) comes to color me up since my reds are taking up alot of space. I tell him when players dont go through him to transfer I take them out, he got a kick out of that.

    I end up coasting for about 20 more min then cashing out with $3560 i believe, I take pics of my chips before i cash out for my records, so here is my chip porn.



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    holy $#@!, good job.
    I'm going to spend a lot of time in houston over the next few months, hoping to make quite a few trips

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    where did they put this room? There used to be a circular bar right in the center of the casino.

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    when you walk in its off to the right, in a little cut out on the perimeter of the casino. its not a separate room

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast 512 View Post
    where did they put this room? There used to be a circular bar right in the center of the casino.
    walk in main entrance. show id to guy. walk about 25 paces. take a right. walk about 50 paces. take a left. its back there on the edge. right side. ask id guy if you get lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Interesting this thread just got bumped today because I just got back from my 2nd trip to the LDL poker room on Saturday night. Had my best ever single session at 2/5 and only played for about 4.5 hours.

    Showed up and there were 35 people on the list for 6 tables of 2/5, after a $20 handshake with the floor manager, I got a seat about 10 minutes later. Bought in with $500 and one of the first hands I played was 22, floped a boat, turned quads, won about $350. I took town mostly smaller pots and built my stack, suprsingly I never got caught with my pants down, which is not normal for my style.

    There were 2 pretty interesting pots:
    One I had JJ on the button, raised to 30, 2 players on my right called. They were the 2 most aggressive and better players at the table. Flop KQ3, guy on my right (young asian guy) bets $25, which was a weird amount to bet for that size pot so i called as did the other guy. Turn was a J, which gives me a set, its checked to me and I bet $75, young asian guy calls. River is a 4. young asian guy thinks for a bit, and starts trying to talk to me, then bets $500... I was not expecting that and start trying to figure out what he is doing. Only thing im really scared of is if he had A10 and just bet the flop trying to take it down, then hit the gut shot. i ended up calling and he showed air.

    After that hand my stack waivered between $2000 and $2500 and I was getting ready to leave to drive back to houston. Right before i leave this hadn happens. Young black guy wanders over to the table filling one of the 3 empty seats. About 30 seconds later 3 new people show up to take their seats, but there are only 2 left. Floor comes over and asks young black guy who told him he could move without getting transferred, blah blah, and caused a delay and a little drama. Floor ends up letting young black guy stay in the seat. Next hand, he straddles to $10. 4 people call including me with Js8c, young black guy raises to $45 and everyone calls. Flop is 10h9c7c, jackpot for me... i set there for a second and before i could act, young black guy bets out of turn $125, dealer asks if i checked, i said " i guess i did". one player calls and its back to me. I have the nuts, and the pot is already ~$500, since I am planning on leaving soon and am satisfied with my session, I would be happy to take the pot right now instead of trying to milk more of out the 2 players on this board, i have a bad feeling young black guy has a flush draw. Young black guy has about 1k behind and other guy has like $100 left.

    I have $2k left in my stack and shove out 2 stacks of green for a bet of $1000. young black guy instacalls other guy folds, he has 10cKc, top pair K kicker and a flush draw. That was exactly what i didnt watn to see, as i dont feel like fading clubs in a 2.5k pot. Turn is a K giving him 2 pair and 4 more outs. River is an A. i sit back down in my seat and stack my chips. Floor manager (the guy I greased and also the guy that got into it with young black guy over table transfer) comes to color me up since my reds are taking up alot of space. I tell him when players dont go through him to transfer I take them out, he got a kick out of that.

    I end up coasting for about 20 more min then cashing out with $3560 i believe, I take pics of my chips before i cash out for my records, so here is my chip porn.


    Hey Dude:


    You were a player back in the hornfans days and still are. Awesome story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M C Orange View Post
    walk in main entrance. show id to guy. walk about 25 paces. take a right. walk about 50 paces. take a left. its back there on the edge. right side. ask id guy if you get lost.
    What if your paces are bigger than mine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M C Orange View Post
    walk in main entrance. show id to guy. walk about 25 paces. take a right. walk about 50 paces. take a left. its back there on the edge. right side. ask id guy if you get lost.
    ok, but if I end up in the women's bathroom again I'm whipping your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houstonian View Post
    Hey Dude:


    You were a player back in the hornfans days and still are. Awesome story.
    You played in one of those houston hornfans poker tourney right?

    I made it to 2 of them, one was at a hotel meeting room, holiday inn over by reliant area i think. and the other was at some dudes loft in midtown, hornian maybe?

    the one at the hotel, i brought a friend, who was a long time lurker at hornfans and wanted to play in the poker tourney, he registered on hornfans they day before the tourney as "bullets". well he ended up winning and it caused some drama since i supposedly brought "a ringer" to the tournament. which couldnt be further from the truth, dude just caught cards that day. he was later banned from any future hornfans poker events. lmao.

    anyway, the ironical thing is "bullets" is MC Orange little brother. coolstorybro

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklab View Post
    holy $#@!, good job.
    I'm going to spend a lot of time in houston over the next few months, hoping to make quite a few trips
    Let me know if you need to get in to some games around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    You played in one of those houston hornfans poker tourney right?

    I made it to 2 of them, one was at a hotel meeting room, holiday inn over by reliant area i think. and the other was at some dudes loft in midtown, hornian maybe?

    the one at the hotel, i brought a friend, who was a long time lurker at hornfans and wanted to play in the poker tourney, he registered on hornfans they day before the tourney as "bullets". well he ended up winning and it caused some drama since i supposedly brought "a ringer" to the tournament. which couldnt be further from the truth, dude just caught cards that day. he was later banned from any future hornfans poker events. lmao.

    anyway, the ironical thing is "bullets" is MC Orange little brother. coolstorybro
    Yup, I was at both. That was my loft. A couple weeks MCO told me about his brother winning legitimately; I always thought he was a ringer.

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    i played in both tourneys as well. /csb

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    How far is this place from Downtown H.? I might be moving there in about 6 months and need a place to play that isn't too far away. I drive an hour to choctaw right now.

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    Edit Fail....

    Very nice stack by the way. My best venture into 2/5 so far is 2200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scraps View Post
    What if your paces are bigger than mine?
    oh its bigger haha

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    The action here is pretty insane at the moment.

    I went again on Saturday, locked in a nice $425 profit and headed home. When I got there the list for 80 people for 2/5, there are only 5 2/5 tables. Average stack at my table was like 2.5k, I saw a guy at the table next to me wiht a 10k stack. I got there at about 7pm, and left at 2:30 am. I got a text that my seat was available at 3am. 8 hr wait for a seat, lmao.

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    I was also at those tournaments. Pretty sure my buddy Chambo won the one at the Post.

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    didnt feel like making a new thread. have been hitting up the LDL 2/5 game pretty often recently and been on a roll. once football season starts i rarely want to head out there for the weekend.

    I headed out there on Saturday and killed it. bought in with 500 at 6pm cashed out at 5am with this.



    crazy thing was there was a ton of money on the table probably like 25k, and a couple of the players were pretty bad is was a great game, but i was just exhausted and started making some mistakes, so i got the $#@! out of there.

    cashed out 4150. thats the best i have ever done in a single 2/5 session. i have won 2k several times, but this was over 3.5k.

    also i got really unlucky in 2 big pots or i woulda had like 2500 more.

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    Well done Dude. That is beautiful.

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    ho. lee. $#@!. That's an impressive run

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    asshat slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? slorch's Avatar
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    Guess you won't be rolling $#@!s in the village this week, eh?

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    crazy thing was i didnt win a super monster pot or anything. just steady building good pots here and there. busted a guy for about 700 was my biggest probably, so it was like a 1500 pot counting my money.

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    so i went last Saturday, again.... i was on a roll, again.


    this is one $500 green stack short of my peak that night at $3300


    basically i have the table on lock, just cruising. have little hiccups here and there, but nothing major. then this happened.

    game had been wild, missippi stradle on most every hadn, most hands were raised from there to $30 to $80. wild guy in mid position has $1750, raises to 50, he raised hands very often. i was comfortable and calling raises with lots of different hands at that point, i call with Jc10c, 2 callers behind me. this was pretty standard for the table.

    flop is Jd10d10h. jackpot. original raiser checks, i check, last 2 guys check.
    turn 6s.
    raiser bets $75, i decide to call as it looked like one of the other guys were going to call and i wanted them in the pot obv. sure enough, one guy calls, other folds.

    river 2d. raiser bets $175.

    i sit there a second, can tell other guy is going to fold. i and deciding how much to raise, i know i can bet pretty big here and get a call from this guy, he just saw me with a crazy bluff, and he calls big bets on the river pretty often. i decide to raise $500 more with a stack of green. he then goes allin pretty quickly. but he always acts pretty quickly.

    i look at the board again, only hands that beat me are 1010 and JJ, of couse 1010 not possible as i have a 10. i still feel like 95% sure i have the best hand here. i call.

    he turns over JJ.

    fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

    really sucks, b/c this guy woudl called my 500 raise with as little as A10. and i think he might shove on me there with any boat. if it was against a better player and i raised less, maybe i coulda gotten away from it, but im not folding there. on the flop i had decided 1000% i had the best hand and as long as no over cards hit i didnt imaging i could be beat.

    ive had coolers like that before, but never when i was playing that deep and the other guy was as well. more than 4k pot.

    after this even though i still had 1500ish in green and was up 1k, i still went into meltdown tilt mode. that hand broke me mentally and i vomited the rest of my chips away pretty spectacularly. $#@!.
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    Ouch, sorry man.

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    Love the stories. Brutal beat. Unless I had some sick nitrock read on the guy, I get those chips in the middle quick.

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    i have never really messed around with them before, and maybe i am late to the party here.... but i have recently discovered that adderall/vyvance are basically like PED's for poker, for me at least. i feel so focused and confident and feel like i can just look thru peoples souls, dont get bored, etc. thats the stuff i struggle with the most normally, just keeping patient and not getting frustrated.

    also it makes me more talkative at the table which helps the fish play looser and have more fun.

    small sample size and all, but i woulda been 4/4 for winnings sessions on the juice, with 3 monster wins, if not for that cooler.

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    God $#@!in damn. What a sick spot. The river is actually a closer decision in most cases than I think most people think, though it is easy to analyze sitting here instead of being at the table.

    Let's try to analyze it tho, so he raises to 50 pre which you say he is raising a wide range. He gets 3 calls so the pot is ~200.

    Flop is JTTdd. He checks. I would say when he checks he is eliminating flush draws from his range, since most any flush draw has a straight draw too and would c-bet. AK, AQ, KQ, even 89dd all almost surely bet here. I would generally narrow his checks to monsters and medium strength hands and worse.

    Turn is 6x. Pot still 200. He now bets 75. Would this player bet a hand like 77 here into 3 people? I think most would not. It is not impossible that he has a hand like AA and checked the flop, though most players would bet a hand from TPTK up on the flop to protect on such a wet board, but some players would exercise pot control and check the flop with AJ or AA. You call.

    River is 2d, completing the flush. Pot now 350. He bets 175. He has to assume your turn call range is something like Jx, KQ, XXdd, 89, with occasional Tx or boats. So what is he betting? We then raise 500 more. The pot is now 1200. He then jams for 1000 on top. So the pot is 2700 and we have to call 1000, so we need to be good 27% of the time.

    I think he is never jamming flushes on the river over your raise. For one, I think he is cbetting all of his flush draws because they have straight draws as well. Too much equity to check. If he did check, say, 67dd, i doubt he is jamming the 7 high flush on the river on a paired board when you raised him 500.

    So he is either bluffing or he has a full house. I don't think he has 22 because I don't think 22 bets the turn. I don't think he has T6 or T2 because pre, but if he is opening cheese like that, then so be it, we just have to pay. So now it comes down to 66, JT, JJ. I am assuming the described villain could have 66 because you said he raises wide. Lots of ppl will just limp small pairs instead of raise, esp with straddle tho, so it really depends on if he ever limps 66. I also think that some villains will just call 66 on the end when you raise 500. However, you said your image is crazy. But does that mean you would pay off the river jam with a flush or trip tens? It also depends on if this villain is a cbet monkey. It is a TERRIBLE play to cbet 66 into 3 ppl on JTTdd. BUT, several ppl, esp ppl who raise too much pre, will do it. Would this guy cbet 22-99 on this flop? If so, then he doesn't have 2s full OR 6s full.

    Same thing with JT, is he raising that pre or limping it?

    You can see that with lots of villains, the proper river play is to raise but to fold to a jam. I think given your description of the villain raising wide, we have to keep some combos of 66 and JT in his range, which means we have to pay off in this spot. But it shows that you have to really think about villain's range instead of just thinking "oh boat, stack off". Antennae should always go WAY up when the preflop raiser checks the flop, then wakes up later and wants to get 300 BB in on the river.

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    i agree with you when analyzing in a vacuum.

    but this guy could raise in EP with K4 suited, show it down on river like its no big deal. and the table wouldnt really think much of it either. it was very much , "hey 4 people going to put in 30-60$ each per hand and see a flop". pretty much every hand. and he was in there like half the time, but so was I.

    so JT, 66, T6 and T2 are def all possible. agree 22 is pretty doubtful, but still not out of the question.

    he's not a cbet monkey, on flops like that he probably checks when first to act most of the time. whether he has it or not.

    him, myself, and like 3 other guys were the ones raising pre 90% of the time. the other $#@!ers were all limp/call stations.

    and TBH i really was taken aback by the allin and didn't really think about it too long, so i not going to lie and say i thought about all this at the time. this is really analysis after the fact.

    for some additional texture. a few hours later, when i was in full blown kamikaze mode, this was my last hand.

    button straddle to 10, im at cutoff. he raises to 50, 3 callers, i shove all in with $400. he snap calls with action behind him, they both fold.

    i have 88, he has q9. now i had lost all respect at the table at the time and was basically like a 3 legged dog in the middle of the autobahn, but still. basically he was some asian dr from houston, unafraid to throw money around and gamboool. he binks 9 and im busted obv.

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    he moved from being a couple on my right to my left at some point between those 2 hands. fyi.

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    jesus christ i need to get to lauberge!!! Incredible $500 snapcall with Q9 with action behind.

    yeah vs described villain, raise/call/hi five dealer on river all day in JT hand, just no way around it. What a $#@!in flop.

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    Man, reading TXSooner's hand analysis makes me realize how little I know. As Mike Matusow said "The kiddie table is over there" and that's where I need to be.
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    ya its a 7 table room, they usually run 1 limit, 2 1/3 games, and 4 2/5 games. you can call in an hour ahead of time, but the list on 2/5 gets up to like 70 players on the weekends, just insanity.

    i usually grease floor and still have to wait over an hr. action is wild.

    new golden nugget is opening up at end of year that is gong to be sweet.

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    coincidentally, not having anything to do with this thread, I just booked a 2 day trip for L'aub the 2 days after labor day. Guess I need to bring some real cash to avoid the Q9 winners behind me ;)

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    Sick beat. My last poker trip I called an all-in on the turn when this dude shoves and I have K-6 spades. I have a pair of kings and flush and opened ended straight draw. Dude flips over his hand immediately and was mumbling to people sitting near him. Apparently he thought he had pocket Aces but it was A-3 off. So he was dead to a river non-spade Ace. Mark it down easy victory for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytexan View Post
    Man, reading TXSooner's hand analysis makes me realize how little I know. As Mike Matusow said "The kiddie table is over there" and that's where I need to be.
    Yup. He says guy would obviously never check the flop if he had a flush or straight draw, and I'm over here thinking "But that's EXACTLY what I'd do there"

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    If you raised AKdd, AQdd, KQdd, you would check JTTdd? How come?

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