Allen High School's new stadium (renderings)

[justhookit]

untrue. if those people were getting properly taxed, and Robin Hood still the law, the town would think about spending $110m on things other than a HS fb stadium. Maybe theyd just go for a $50m stadium.

And
This is a gross extravagance in a time when the nation is hurting.

this has $#@! to do with robin hood or tea party people.

People complaining about taxes are complaining because of where the money is going (elsewhere), but in this case their money is being used in their community. They actually got to vote on it. Wow, what a concept.

[Wasatch Horn]

Two people in my neighborhood, one just built a new pool and the other just lost their house. Does this mean the people who built the pool have screwed up priorities because they built a pool while others are losing their homes?

[slorch]

this has $#@! to do with robin hood or tea party people.

People complaining about taxes are complaining because of where the money is going (elsewhere), but in this case their money is being used in their community. They actually got to vote on it. Wow, what a concept.

right on the money. literally.

[Wasatch Horn]

No only did they vote on the bond issue but it won by a landslide, something like 70% to 27%

[rantanamo]

This is exactly why our coaches(Garland) fled for that place after winning state.

[The Tres Leches]

Remember that stadium at Central Florida that we played in a few years ago? That had a budget of $54 million.

[Wasatch Horn]

Remember that stadium at Central Florida that we played in a few years ago? That had a budget of $54 million.

Ok, I dont know why, but this really made me laugh

[Tailleur17]

I'm sorry but I just can't see the light on this one. I understand it's the city's money and they people voted on it, but it seems like a huge waste of resources for something that will be used very little and by one high school team. Not to mention the design looks awful to me.

So you say they need more seats. I see that and I get that. So build a stadium with less amenities, less bs. Why not start with a simpler model? First of all, I can tell you by those renderings that the angle of the seats is absolutely terrible for watching a game. Go look at a place like Ratliff Stadium (yes I know it's older) but it is a great example of a good, solid stadium with great sightlines and angles to watch the game. Allen's looks much too shallow IMO and the fans would be far from the action. Why not get the basics right if you're gonna spend 60 mill?

Too many stadiums these days are so busy worrying about how many concession stands, seat backs, water fountains, ad spaces to have that they lose their focus on important $#@! like sightlines, angles, concourses, even general architectural individuality (I think that Allen's stadium looks the same as every other new stadium honestly).

I guess what I'm saying is, if you're gonna spend 60 million, at least get it right or don't spend it at all. Either way, it's still an example of $#@!ed up priorities. You can't tell me that will benefit the majority of that town. No way in hell.

[rantanamo]

I'm sorry but I just can't see the light on this one. I understand it's the city's money and they people voted on it, but it seems like a huge waste of resources for something that will be used very little and by one high school team. Not to mention the design looks awful to me.

So you say they need more seats. I see that and I get that. So build a stadium with less amenities, less bs. Why not start with a simpler model? First of all, I can tell you by those renderings that the angle of the seats is absolutely terrible for watching a game. Go look at a place like Ratliff Stadium (yes I know it's older) but it is a great example of a good, solid stadium with great sightlines and angles to watch the game. Allen's looks much too shallow IMO and the fans would be far from the action. Why not get the basics right if you're gonna spend 60 mill?

Too many stadiums these days are so busy worrying about how many concession stands, seat backs, water fountains, ad spaces to have that they lose their focus on important $#@! like sightlines, angles, concourses, even general architectural individuality (I think that Allen's stadium looks the same as every other new stadium honestly).

I guess what I'm saying is, if you're gonna spend 60 million, at least get it right or don't spend it at all. Either way, it's still an example of $#@!ed up priorities. You can't tell me that will benefit the majority of that town. No way in hell.

Ratliff sitting behind that track?

[equinox]

I'm sorry but I just can't see the light on this one. I understand it's the city's money and they people voted on it, but it seems like a huge waste of resources for something that will be used very little and by one high school team. Not to mention the design looks awful to me.

So you say they need more seats. I see that and I get that. So build a stadium with less amenities, less bs. Why not start with a simpler model? First of all, I can tell you by those renderings that the angle of the seats is absolutely terrible for watching a game. Go look at a place like Ratliff Stadium (yes I know it's older) but it is a great example of a good, solid stadium with great sightlines and angles to watch the game. Allen's looks much too shallow IMO and the fans would be far from the action. Why not get the basics right if you're gonna spend 60 mill?

Too many stadiums these days are so busy worrying about how many concession stands, seat backs, water fountains, ad spaces to have that they lose their focus on important $#@! like sightlines, angles, concourses, even general architectural individuality (I think that Allen's stadium looks the same as every other new stadium honestly).

I guess what I'm saying is, if you're gonna spend 60 million, at least get it right or don't spend it at all. Either way, it's still an example of $#@!ed up priorities. You can't tell me that will benefit the majority of that town. No way in hell.

I agree with your comments about angle of the stands, etc. But I'd bet even building a stadium like Ratliff would cost a pretty penny in today's dollars.

[mdmost]

Uh yeah. That beats the $#@! out of Forrester Field where I used to play soccer and our HS played football.

[Wasatch Horn]

Don't be surprised if they do a lot more than football in that stadium, hell I could see them bring rodeos into that stadium, it's got a great capacity and enough amenities to bring in other public events. Can you imagine holding a rock concert in that stadium? it would be worth the money to attend. The more I think about what can be done in a stadium like that the more I like the investment.

[justhookit]

I'm sorry but I just can't see the light on this one. blah blah blah

You don't live there. It's not your money. Your priorities have nothing to do with this. Their kids drive 40,000 dollar cars. Some of them even (gasp) go to private schools. What's your point?

Your point of view is the $#@!ed up attitude that has this country in this mess. But go ahead and complain about sight lines. Jesus $#@!ing Christ.

[Mizzou415]

You don't live there. It's not your money. Your priorities have nothing to do with this. Their kids drive 40,000 dollar cars. Some of them even (gasp) go to private schools. What's your point?

Your point of view is the $#@!ed up attitude that has this country in this mess. But go ahead and complain about sight lines. Jesus $#@!ing Christ.

Wishing others would spend their money in a more responsible fashion is what has this country in a mess? Really?

[GraciePie]

Why shouldn't people spend their money as they see fit?

[handcruser]

I'm sorry but I just can't see the light on this one. I understand it's the city's money and they people voted on it, but it seems like a huge waste of resources for something that will be used very little and by one high school team. Not to mention the design looks awful to me.

So you say they need more seats. I see that and I get that. So build a stadium with less amenities, less bs. Why not start with a simpler model? First of all, I can tell you by those renderings that the angle of the seats is absolutely terrible for watching a game. Go look at a place like Ratliff Stadium (yes I know it's older) but it is a great example of a good, solid stadium with great sightlines and angles to watch the game. Allen's looks much too shallow IMO and the fans would be far from the action. Why not get the basics right if you're gonna spend 60 mill?

Too many stadiums these days are so busy worrying about how many concession stands, seat backs, water fountains, ad spaces to have that they lose their focus on important $#@! like sightlines, angles, concourses, even general architectural individuality (I think that Allen's stadium looks the same as every other new stadium honestly).



I guess what I'm saying is, if you're gonna spend 60 million, at least get it right or don't spend it at all. Either way, it's still an example of $#@!ed up priorities. You can't tell me that will benefit the majority of that town. No way in hell.

Concession stands and ad spaces bring in revenue. You know, to help offset the cost your complaining about. So, what exactly are you complaining about?

[rantanamo]

[Silky Johnson]

Now it's a man's field.

[The Eyes]

Now it's a man's field.

you forgot the endzone seats where you can't see the endzone.

[Huckleberry]

I still think it's $#@!ed up where they put the students. And just now noticed they're on the complete opposite end of the field from the band. Boo-urns.

I had a great time at the games before I moved to varsity when I was in high school. Sitting in the end zone would have sucked ass.

[bluto]

I still think it's $#@!ed up where they put the students. And just now noticed they're on the complete opposite end of the field from the band. Boo-urns.

I had a great time at the games before I moved to varsity when I was in high school. Sitting in the end zone would have sucked ass.

ive seen this with a handful of high schools, and sometimes the stands in the endzone are nothing more than temp bleachers.

[Uncle Charlie]

I live in Allen and while the property taxes do suck ass, it's a great recruiting tool to bring affluent people to the community and helps with property values.

The city has done a great job planning for growth and was actually leasing unused space in the HS out to local community colleges that needed classrooms. Not sure if that is still the case but it was a couple of years ago. Allen is land locked on all sides so I doubt there will ever be more than 100k total in the actual city of Allen.

[Eskimohorn]

amazing how $#@!ed up priorities are in this country/state. it's embarrassing.

Except that the priorities for Allen ISD are right on track. The community has a high% of engaged parents with children. The high school is amazing and are preparing kids for life after high school. Besides college/academic prep, their fine arts program is incredible. They probably have one of the premiere culinary arts/management program in the country. When you look beyond just the football stadium (which will probably end up being a money maker for homeowners and the school district), you'll realize this district is getting it done using the state funding assigned to them.

[Eskimohorn]

I'm sorry but I just can't see the light on this one. I understand it's the city's money and they people voted on it, but it seems like a huge waste of resources for something that will be used very little and by one high school team. Not to mention the design looks awful to me.

So you say they need more seats. I see that and I get that. So build a stadium with less amenities, less bs. Why not start with a simpler model? First of all, I can tell you by those renderings that the angle of the seats is absolutely terrible for watching a game. Go look at a place like Ratliff Stadium (yes I know it's older) but it is a great example of a good, solid stadium with great sightlines and angles to watch the game. Allen's looks much too shallow IMO and the fans would be far from the action. Why not get the basics right if you're gonna spend 60 mill?

Too many stadiums these days are so busy worrying about how many concession stands, seat backs, water fountains, ad spaces to have that they lose their focus on important $#@! like sightlines, angles, concourses, even general architectural individuality (I think that Allen's stadium looks the same as every other new stadium honestly).

I guess what I'm saying is, if you're gonna spend 60 million, at least get it right or don't spend it at all. Either way, it's still an example of $#@!ed up priorities. You can't tell me that will benefit the majority of that town. No way in hell.

My brother-in-law lived there. In one of the worst real estate markets in recent history, he sold his home in a week. He was single without children. The majority of the people wanted it and voted on it directly. It sounds you don't want to hear arguments about ROI or direct democracy. It sounds like it's a matter of taste. Which values are more important: ROI, democracy or taste?

[ImissWallyPryor]

you forgot the endzone seats where you can't see the endzone.

This past season, a friend of mine loaned his cell phone to his son so he could text me a picture of Pyle Field taken from their seats in The Zone. Presumably, this was an eat-your-heart-out jesture. I texted back asking where the endzone went. Was that a $#@!ish thing for me to do to a kid?

[stunns38]

I live in Allen and while the property taxes do suck ass, it's a great recruiting tool to bring affluent people to the community and helps with property values.

The city has done a great job planning for growth and was actually leasing unused space in the HS out to local community colleges that needed classrooms. Not sure if that is still the case but it was a couple of years ago. Allen is land locked on all sides so I doubt there will ever be more than 100k total in the actual city of Allen.

I've driven through Allen a few times but stayed there once at a hotel for a weekend(TX-OU for free) in 2002 and there wasn't $#@! out there.

[Bevo14]

$#@!ing $#@!. I wish I had gotten to go to one of these schools.

[Uncle Charlie]

I've driven through Allen a few times but stayed there once at a hotel for a weekend(TX-OU for free) in 2002 and there wasn't $#@! out there.

Yeah..population was around 42k 10 years ago, 85k now.

[DrManik]

$#@!ing $#@!. I wish I had gotten to go to one of these schools.

No $#@!. We didn't have a football stadium. We shared the piece of $#@! at TCC with a number of other Fort Worth schools. To be fair, though, our football team was 4A and blew donkey $#@! once we played anyone outside of our district.

[AbeFroman]

The community has a high% of engaged parents with children.

With all these kids running around, they might as well go ahead and get hitched

[jtk1519]

[Urinal Cake]

Nicer than aggy field.

[Lhorns101]

That's a $#@!ing legit high school stadium.

[jtk1519]

[The Missing Link]

That's pretty kick ass. This is going to be a money-printer for Allen ISD.

[UTPhil2006]

That's better than a lot of colleges. Damn.

[tx 3 putt]

That's better than a lot of colleges. Damn.

better than my D2 college

[shnsajax]

Pushing 5400 students. At what point do they not just add another HS.

[HenryJames]

Pushing 5400 students. At what point do they not just add another HS.

When it won't effect the qualify of their football team.

[groverat]

When it won't effect the qualify of their football team.

$#@!ed up priorities.

[edit]

What happens to this place once the science on sub-concussive hits leading to early-onset dementia is more well-established and K-12 schools are no longer allowed to play the kind of football we see today.

Dance competitions?

[cashman]

Pushing 5400 students. At what point do they not just add another HS.

They keep on adding new wings to the school. Nice Stadium built on Plano's robin hood money. $#@! Allen.

[The Eyes]

holy moly. that stadium is incredible. better than pyle.

[js]

$#@!ed up priorities.

[edit]

What happens to this place once the science on sub-concussive hits leading to early-onset dementia is more well-established and K-12 schools are no longer allowed to play the kind of football we see today.

Dance competitions?

Quidditch, duh. Advantage: aggy

[texashorne]

Pushing 5400 students. At what point do they not just add another HS.

They'll have Allen High School made up of 9th & 10th graders, the Allen Senior High School with 11 & 12th. Southlake does this to avoid their athletic programs taking a hit.

[groverat]

Quidditch, duh. Advantage: aggy

Those sons of bitches. Always thinking ahead.

(Alternative: We ignore the science because FOOTBAW.)

[jtk1519]

[UTwantedto be]

On par with Berry Center I'm guessing, but Berry is for an entire fn district.

[BurntOrange&White]

All season tickets have been sold already(7500)

[UTwantedto be]

I've never seen 7500 at Berry Center, even when Cy-Fair and the White Wonder played Cy-Ridge and Russell Sheppard on ESPN. I bet there wasn't 5,000 in the stands.

[The Missing Link]

I've never seen 7500 at Berry Center, even when Cy-Fair and the White Wonder played Cy-Ridge and Russell Sheppard on ESPN. I bet there wasn't 5,000 in the stands.

DFW has good football.