Just heard Chip Brown on the radio. $#@!. Rumor that he might have had it before.
Just heard Chip Brown on the radio. $#@!. Rumor that he might have had it before.
Well, that's lovely. Does it drop him more?
Does he really need microfracture surgery, or is it of the TMac variety?
I thought he already had this surgery
damnit. I wanted the Patriots to take him. some of the D guys that were taken before him I've never heard of before.
Injury or not, he's the bargain in the second round (besides Gerhart). No rookie LB does a whole lot, anyway. By the time the lockout's over in 2012, he'll be ready for combat.
Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, Brian Orakpo, Patrick Willis, DaMeco Ryans, Curtis Lofton, James Laurinaitis, Jon Vilma and Jon Beason disagree.No rookie LB does a whole lot, anyway.
In 2012, if Serg is 100% healthy, who in this list is better than him? Maybe Rak, of course, who's more or less a DE.
Add this to being a tweener and it's no wonder he's still waiting. He might want to get comfortable.
This is all speculation at this point, isn't it?
Like with Sean Rogers needing ankle surgery, which he didn't.
If this is untrue, it's total bull$#@! and it costing Kindle millions.
Apparently there's also a story out there that says he has narcolepsy and continually fell asleep in meetings at UT. The drugs you take can really slow you down.
this was mentioned on OB yesterday, guess ketchco got one right ..
I would bet that over the last five years, more rookies have made the pro bowl at linebacker than any other position, even accounting for the fact that there are more linebacker spots on the pro bowl roster than some other positions. To say that no rookie LB does a lot is just $#@!ing moronic.
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...sergio-kindle/What is the story surrounding the knee of Texas LB Sergio Kindle?
Like so many, I was surprised when the first round expired last night and Texas LB Sergio Kindle wasn’t selected. The long, athletic playmaker was in the first round of every mock draft, and a bunch of pundits thought he was headed to the Patriots.
Why did Kindle fall?
Allow me to point you to an article written by respected Longhorns beat reporter Chip Brown of the UT Rivals.com site. It reports on what he terms “a potential bombshell brewing” regarding the knee injury Kindle played with in 2009.
“There are a handful of teams who have graded Kindle as a ’serious’ medical risk because of his knee, which one team said looks like it could require Kindle to have microfracture surgery,” Brown wrote in the article.
“Microfracture is a surgery to create cartilage in the knee when it becomes a bone-on-bone situation,” he continued. “It’s a surgery athletes tend to have near the end of their careers. Not at the beginning. According to some teams, Kindle’s medical exams showed a series of trauma on the knee that could limit his career.”
Now, Kindle is still an athlete, a 6-foot-4, 255-pound freak who had 2.5 sacks in the BCS title game. Didn’t seem to bother him then. But if there are concerns… it might explain what happened.
“If he slides past the Patriots at No. 22, he could slide out of the first round,” Brown wrote, “and there might be more than hot air behind the murmurs about Kindle’s knee.”
That’s what happened. But what will happen today?
Anybody have the Orangebloods article that Chip Brown wrote?
well maybe the doctors didn't clear him as a first round grade.
Here you go
i will update this as a i get information from my sources on the nfl draft, but there is a potential bombshell brewing in the first round as it pertains to sergio kindle.
there are a handful of teams who have graded kindle as a "serious" medical risk because of his knee, which one team said looks like it could require kindle to have microfracture surgery.
Microfracture is a surgery to create cartilage in the knee when it becomes a bone-on-bone situation. It's a surgery athletes tend to have near the end of their careers. Not at the beginning.
According to some teams, kindle's medical exams showed a series of trauma on the knee that could limit his career.
Now, we've seen these types of overreactions before. We saw it with shaun rogers back in 2001. Several teams said rogers had an ankle that was so bad it would require surgery. Jerry jones was one of the gms scared off about rogers because of his ankle.
I know this because i was in the room when jerry brought x-rays of rogers' ankle to members of the media and said, "he needs surgery and probably won't even play his rookie year."
of course, rogers played as a rookie and led all defensive tackles in the nfl in solo stops.
So there is a chance this stuff on kindle's knee is an overreaction by some teams. I'm just passing along what nfl teams are saying about kindle's knee.
I was told san francisco was high on kindle (49ers have the 13th and 17th picks)and that kindle wouldn't drop past atlanta at no. 19 tonight. If he slides past 19, he could land with new england at no. 22, which has also expressed interest in him.
But if he slides past the patriots at no. 22, he could slide out of the first round, and there might be more than hot air behind the murmurs about kindle's knee.
I was surprised when i was told about all of this because, of course, when last we saw kindle he was posting 2.5 sacks in the bcs national title game. We'll see.
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thanks, juz. I wish the teams who were saying this would be identified.
I really did want Kindle to break the bank. he was awesome for the team last year and it sucks he wasn't drafted yesterday.
thread title needs to be cleaned up just a bit.
Yeah, I love Sergio as much as the next guy, but to say he is better than Patrick Willis is lunacy.
Chip Brown just cost Sergio a bunch of dough. I would be pissed if I was him. That's some bull$#@! to pull on a dude right at the draft.
What's more likely - a collection of NFL decision makers get hold of an unsubstantiated rumor from a writer and rush to react accordingly to said rumors in the heat of the moment, or that NFL teams conducted research on their potential multi-million dollar investment to learn about risks in advance of making their decision?â€śThere are a handful of teams who have graded Kindle as a â€™seriousâ€™ medical risk because of his knee, which one team said looks like it could require Kindle to have microfracture surgery,â€ť per the report. "According to some teams, Kindleâ€™s medical exams showed a series of trauma on the knee that could limit his career. If he slides past the Patriots at No. 22, he could slide out of the first round, and there might be more than hot air behind the murmurs about Kindleâ€™s knee.â€ť
who was the last UT player to fall in the draft due to suspected injury issues?
The RD 2 Mock on CNNSI has him going 1st to St. Louis, provided nobody trades up to steal Clausen from Minnesota.
he's a good player and should go soon. Bradford missed almost en entire season after surgery yet was 1st pick overall
this is the part i have a problem w/. buddy of mine mentioned that at lunch today and i was like, wtf? when the $#@! did this kid take a year off and have microfracture surgery! if you are going to speculate about something like that, $#@!ING THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. dumbasses.Rumor that he might have had it before.
(just so we're clear - that rant wasn't directed at Massive Horn, but whoever the $#@!sucker is that started it.)
It's just as likely that he fell because he's a tweener with no real pass rush skill. He's a force at OLB against the run, but those guys aren't high picks generally.
There's a lot of retard out there on Kindle. For instance, even if he had either or both condition, the drugs you take for both ADHD and narcolepsy are stimulants. Here's today's Baltimore Sun article on him. The Ravens, who are obviously a well-run organization, had an inside connection to Muschamp and are a fantastic place for Kindle to end up.
According to ESPN, one team took Kindle off its draft board over concerns with Kindle's knee. It has been rumored that he needs microfracture knee surgery, which would knock him out for his entire rookie season. Newsome disputed that, saying he spoke with trainer Bill Tessendorf on Friday. "There is no need for any microfracture surgery at this point," he said.
Kindle said he doesn't think he needs surgery. "I guess when I get there, I'll let them look at it again and see what needs to happen," he said. "I feel like I can practice when the time comes."
Kindle has made strides off the field. He graduated from Texas in December 2009 with a degree in youth and community studies. He was on the school's athletic honor roll in the spring of 2008.
Newsome said the Ravens did their homework on Kindle. Ravens director of college scouting Joe Hortiz is a close friend of Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp.
"We are able to get information out of the University of Texas like no other organization can because of that relationship," Newsome said.
DeCosta called Kindle "a Ravens type of guy."
"He's confident in his ability. He's a competitor," DeCosta said. "Those are the kind of guys that we want. He's not a wallflower. He's got some personality. He's as tough as they come. Today when we woke up, I can tell you that we were excited about the opportunity to pick him today."
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