Kanye leaks another song....

[neverwenttoUT]

Not quite sure what he is doing leaking all these songs besides pissing off his label...

Kanye West - Monster (Feat. Rick Ross, Jay-Z, Bon Iver & Nicki Minaj)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/797926202d536976/

Umm Nicki's verse I'll wait for someone else to say it....

[aaronisnotcool]

i'm pretty sure it's going to be on his and jay-z upcoming LP. not his album.

[hornfan_82]

He said that he will be releasing a new song every week (Friday) until Christmas. Its called "Good Friday".

I like this idea.

[TxArch]

Umm Nicki's verse I'll wait for someone else to say it....

The fact that she has to use that fucking "scary" voice every time?

[TJ]

Not quite sure what he is doing leaking all these songs besides pissing off his label...

Kanye West - Monster (Feat. Rick Ross, Jay-Z, Bon Iver & Nicki Minaj)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/797926202d536976/

Umm Nicki's verse I'll wait for someone else to say it....

he's not leaking anything and his label loves this idea.

[scottsins]

The fact that she has to use that fucking "scary" voice every time?

Haven't heard this track yet, but I can't stand her sometimes. In some other track, the last bar or her verse is "It's nightmare on Elm Street/AND GUESS WHO'S PLAYING FREDDIE!

And she does it in that waterhead scary voice. fucking awful. Skillz wise, she's done some godod stuf, like her track on Drought 3 with Wayne, but other than that, she insists on ruining herself.

[neverwenttoUT]

Say what you want but she outshines everyone else on this track. The "voices" are annoying sometimes but sometimes they fit perfectly like in this song. She brought energy to this track, the braggado of her lyrics and the switching of flows was masterful. She definitely brought her "A" game on this track.

[scottsins]

^
as stated, I haven't hears it yet. My comments were general.

[TxArch]

Say what you want but she outshines everyone else on this track. The "voices" are annoying sometimes but sometimes they fit perfectly like in this song. She brought energy to this track, the braggado of her lyrics and the switching of flows was masterful. She definitely brought her "A" game on this track.

Is braggado a combination of bravado and braggadocio?

[HoosierHorn]

what's the f'n plugin that i don't have?

[Derka Derka]

Niki Minaj sucks, and I have never understood the hype around her. She's better than most female rappers, so it's like, WHOA, NO WAY, SHE'S FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!". it's be like if Maya Moore played for our men's basketball team, and every time she finished with 6 points and 3 rebounds everyone was like, "OMFG, MAYA MOORE IS THA SHHHIIIITTTT!!!!!".

[grapedrink]

Niki Minaj sucks

this, she doesnt rap about shit.

[TWHOOKEM]

If people are saying she's amazing they're incorrect imo, but she is a lot more fun to listen to than some other female rappers i've heard. She reminds me of Lady of Rage with her swagger but a little more cartoonish and less scary.

[Derka Derka]

If people are saying she's amazing they're incorrect imo, but she is a lot more fun to listen to than some other female rappers i've heard. She reminds me of Lady of Rage with her swagger but a little more cartoonish and less scary.

See I can agree that she's good for a female rapper. But in terms of all rappers being ccreated equal, she's not very good, aand the fact that she's a chick is her only saving grace. A dude with the same flow and skill wouldn't ever make it in this industry.

[aaronisnotcool]

she is a product of wayne. she doesn't have shit to say.

[neverwenttoUT]

See I can agree that she's good for a female rapper. But in terms of all rappers being ccreated equal, she's not very good, aand the fact that she's a chick is her only saving grace. A dude with the same flow and skill wouldn't ever make it in this industry.

Hmm her lyrics and content is a lot like Lil Waynes, her voice inflections, tones and flow is similar to Eminems. Now am I not saying she is on either of their levels but I am not sure I can agree with that statement. Also all rappers aren't created equal(would you compare Jay Z to someone like Plies?) especially between male and females so not sure its fair to even hold her to the standards of male rappers. What I do know is she has outshined more than a few of her male counterparts when she has guest appeared on their records, and that list is steadily growing.

[aaronisnotcool]

What I do know is she has outshined more than a few of her male counterparts when she has guest appeared on their records, and that list is steadily growing.

how? when she all she raps about is how she eats rappers, or how she's a monster (in a annoying voice). not to mention the fact that she has been over saturated in the rap scene. that's why i stopped listening to wayne too.

[Derka Derka]

Hmm her lyrics and content is a lot like Lil Waynes, her voice inflections, tones and flow is similar to Eminems. Now am I not saying she is on either of their levels but I am not sure I can agree with that statement. Also all rappers aren't created equal(would you compare Jay Z to someone like Plies?) especially between male and females so not sure its fair to even hold her to the standards of male rappers. What I do know is she has outshined more than a few of her male counterparts when she has guest appeared on their records, and that list is steadily growing.

didnt she say some shit like, "My flow is tighter than a dick in the butt", and everyone was all like, "MANN!!!". yeah, that shit is stupid, overhyped, saturated crap.

[neverwenttoUT]

how? when she all she raps about is how she eats rappers, or how she's a monster (in a annoying voice). not to mention the fact that she has been over saturated in the rap scene. that's why i stopped listening to wayne too.

No that is not all she talks about, Nicki has more music out there than what you hear on the radio etc... In regards to the oversaturation, that is kind of what happens when your peers think you are the hottest thing out, Nicki hasn't even put an album out and has been on songs with the likes of Mariah Carey, Usher, Trey Songz, Jay Z, Robin Thicke, Ludacris, Kanye etc..

didnt she say some shit like, "My flow is tighter than a dick in the butt", and everyone was all like, "MANN!!!". yeah, that shit is stupid, overhyped, saturated crap.

I don't where that line is from, and I have never heard anyone mention that line to me regarding Nicki, not saying she didn't say it just that know one I know had any reaction to it in the manner you speak of. Also I could point out terrible, awful lines from all of your favorite rappers lets not reduce this discussion to anecdotal evidence.

[Derka Derka]

No that is not all she talks about, Nicki has more music out there than what you hear on the radio etc... In regards to the oversaturation, that is kind of what happens when your peers think you are the hottest thing out, Nicki hasn't even put an album out and has been on songs with the likes of Mariah Carey, Usher, Trey Songz, Jay Z, Robin Thicke, Ludacris, Kanye etc..

It's not about your peers thinking you're the hottest in the game, it's bout lil wayne endorsing you, which makes you hot. People are in this or money, (hopefully) among other things; I someone is hot right now, then anyone will do a song with them. I don't really care or most o lil wayne's stuff, but you lost your damn mind if you think I'm not gonna do a song with him.

In fact, most rappers have the most respect or artists like Lupe, Mos Def, Talib kweli, etc, but they aren't doing songs with them because that's not what 18 year old white girls and early 20's frat boys and pretty boys wanna listen to.

[neverwenttoUT]

It's not about your peers thinking you're the hottest in the game, it's bout lil wayne endorsing you, which makes you hot. People are in this or money, (hopefully) among other things; I someone is hot right now, then anyone will do a song with them. I don't really care or most o lil wayne's stuff, but you lost your damn mind if you think I'm not gonna do a song with him.

In fact, most rappers have the most respect or artists like Lupe, Mos Def, Talib kweli, etc, but they aren't doing songs with them because that's not what 18 year old white girls and early 20's frat boys and pretty boys wanna listen to.

I named the people I named for a reason. How many on that list do you feel "needed" a Nicki Minaj verse to appeal? Certainly not Mariah, Usher, Robin, Luda and definitely not Kanye. None of those people are hurting for money or record sales or in need of attaching themselves to someone else's movement. Maybe Trey, but he is coming off his best success from his last album which is why he and his label is rushing another out. How does Kanye benefit by saying this?



You are in a different group than the people I named are. As an up and coming rapper it would benefit you greatly by having a song featuring Nicki, Wayne also endorses Mack Maine, Tyga, Lil Chuckee, and the rest of Young Money but you don't see them all over people songs like Drake and Nicki are. The endorsement helps but ultimately talent stands out, but if you don't think Nicki has any talent then you are selling her short. Let me ask you this, at this moment and time do you think you could hold your own on a track with Nicki?

[Derka Derka]

Could I hols my own on a track with Niki? I dunno, could I beat a 99 year old woman in arm wrestling? I would definitively, unequivocally, and unabashedly destroy Nicki Minaj on any track, ever. She cannot hold my jock when it comes to rapping. Silly question.

Now then, you seem to be under the impression that an artists should have a need for money to want to make more of it. That's why I don't understand your entire previous post. No, those people don't NEED money, but if putting Nicki Minaj on a track means you basically guarantee yourself to make more money, why wouldn't you?

[neverwenttoUT]

Could I hols my own on a track with Niki? I dunno, could I beat a 99 year old woman in arm wrestling? I would definitively, unequivocally, and unabashedly destroy Nicki Minaj on any track, ever. She cannot hold my jock when it comes to rapping. Silly question.

Now then, you seem to be under the impression that an artists should have a need for money to want to make more of it. That's why I don't understand your entire previous post. No, those people don't NEED money, but if putting Nicki Minaj on a track means you basically guarantee yourself to make more money, why wouldn't you?

Meh maybe I haven't heard enough of your music, but from a talent stand point I don't honestly think you hold a candle to Nicki honestly. In which aspects as a rapper do you feel skill wise you are unequivocally better than her?

I'm not under that impression at all, but you seemed to think that someone like Mariah gained a substantial # of fans just by featuring Nicki on her single when that is hardly the case. If someone wasn't a Mariah Carey fan prior to that song most likely they weren't a Mariah Carey fan afterwards. The Nicki only fans would download that single song from somewhere on the Internet and not go and buy that whole album based off that one song. Do you honestly think there would have been a big difference in the amount of records Mariah sold based on if Nicki was on that song or not? We aren't in the 90s anymore, you can't trick a bunch of people into buying your whole album by featuring their favorite artist. Just saying when you include the expenses for having Nicki do a song and then look at any monetary gains from it I can tell you it comes out to just about nil. That argument can be made for just about all of the names I mentioned above, which was my reasoning for doing so because I knew this argument would come from it. Now if I had originally said names like Gucci Mane, Sean Garrett etc..then I would agree with your point.

[Derka Derka]

Meh maybe I haven't heard enough of your music, but from a talent stand point I don't honestly think you hold a candle to Nicki honestly. In which aspects as a rapper do you feel skill wise you are unequivocally better than her?

I'm not under that impression at all, but you seemed to think that someone like Mariah gained a substantial # of fans just by featuring Nicki on her single when that is hardly the case. If someone wasn't a Mariah Carey fan prior to that song most likely they weren't a Mariah Carey fan afterwards. The Nicki only fans would download that single song from somewhere on the Internet and not go and buy that whole album based off that one song. Do you honestly think there would have been a big difference in the amount of records Mariah sold based on if Nicki was on that song or not? We aren't in the 90s anymore, you can't trick a bunch of people into buying your whole album by featuring their favorite artist. Just saying when you include the expenses for having Nicki do a song and then look at any monetary gains from it I can tell you it comes out to just about nil. That argument can be made for just about all of the names I mentioned above, which was my reasoning for doing so because I knew this argument would come from it. Now if I had originally said names like Gucci Mane, Sean Garrett etc..then I would agree with your point.

dude, what are you talking about? If Mariah and Nicki do a song, then every time it's downloaded, mariah gets money; every time someone hears it, and likes it, it helps promote Mariah; every time it's played on the radio, Mariah gets money, and publicity. How are you not getting this? Even if she didn't make money off the song (which she most certainly does) it's at worst free publicity. When me and you clash, it's because you make assumptions, and based of those assumptions, you make long winded posts (no paragraphs at all), when you should have saved the key strokes. it's not about albums. Why am I even still replying to this?

As to the first part, I am unequivocally better than Nicki in evvery single aspect of rapping. From writing, to spitting, to switching my flow, to not rapping like a monster, to rapping about substance. The only thing she is better than me at is knowing Lil Wayne. it's also funny that you say we should not make assumptions based on such a small sample size, yet, based on what could at most be 3-4 songs I recorded almost 5 years ago, you "honestly don't think I hold a candle to Nicki honestly"? OK dude, whateer. My album is dropping in 3 weeks, it will be posted here, and you can hear. I am beyond fucking insulted to hear you say that I don't hold a candle to a gimmick rapper. I need to cool off after hearing that shit, good lord. And learn how to use a paragraph, and the difference in they're, their, and there while you're at it.

[Derka Derka]

neverwent- post 3 good nicki song, right now. I really need to hear what you think hr best songs are.

[neverwenttoUT]

dude, what are you talking about? If Mariah and Nicki do a song, then every time it's downloaded, mariah gets money; every time someone hears it, and likes it, it helps promote Mariah; every time it's played on the radio, Mariah gets money, and publicity. How are you not getting this? Even if she didn't make money off the song (which she most certainly does) it's at worst free publicity. When me and you clash, it's because you make assumptions, and based of those assumptions, you make long winded posts (no paragraphs at all), when you should have saved the key strokes. it's not about albums. Why am I even still replying to this?

I don't know anyone that pays for single songs, and the revenue from people purchasing single songs are not that substantial at all, because anyone that uses the Internet knows how go get a song for free besides buying it from Itunes/Amazon etc... Now in regards to the publicity and radio play, do you think that happens because the millions of Nicki Minaj's fans make it happen or because Nicki made it a hot song? Adding Nicki to your song can take your song to #1 on the billboard charts because of what she brings to your track not just because her name is Nicki Minaj, last time I checked Lil Wayne didn't control the radios are the billboard charts.

As to the first part, I am unequivocally better than Nicki in evvery single aspect of rapping. From writing, to spitting, to switching my flow, to not rapping like a monster, to rapping about substance. The only thing she is better than me at is knowing Lil Wayne. it's also funny that you say we should not make assumptions based on such a small sample size, yet, based on what could at most be 3-4 songs I recorded almost 5 years ago, you "honestly don't think I hold a candle to Nicki honestly"? OK dude, whateer. My album is dropping in 3 weeks, it will be posted here, and you can hear. I am beyond fucking insulted to hear you say that I don't hold a candle to a gimmick rapper. I need to cool off after hearing that shit, good lord. And learn how to use a paragraph, and the difference in they're, their, and there while you're at it.

Did I not acknowledge the fact that I probably haven't heard enough of your music to make an accurate claim to begin with? And again the Lil Wayne argument does not fly because Young Money has more members than Lil Wayne, Drake, and Nicki, but like I said true talent stands out. I have the opinion at this time that Nicki is a better rapper than you, its really no slight to you, but I can't see how you think you could be on that level of a rapper. Also just because Nicki is animated doesn't make her a "gimmick" rapper. Do you think Ludacris is a gimmick rapper? When Eminem uses voice inflections is it just a gimmick? Was ODB just a gimmick rapper to you with no skills?


I'll post 3 songs from Nicki, and we can break it down. But I want to reserve the right to do the same to 3 of your songs without feelings getting caught. Can we agree on that?

[Derka Derka]

yes.

[grapedrink]

I don't where that line is from.

Its from "roger that", turrible verse IMO.

[neverwenttoUT]

Skip to about the 2:35 sec mark.

And also the song in the original OP.

[TxArch]

I buy single songs.

neverwent just wants to bone nicki

[neverwenttoUT]

I wouldn't pass the opportunity Txarch, that is for surem but rumors say she possibly doesn't really swing my way. But I still look forward to the day when we cross paths.

[TxArch]

What a dumbass.

[Durant Durant]

Skip to about the 2:35 sec mark.

And also the song in the original OP.

That whole Beam Me Up Scotty mixtape was pretty hot. That bitch can rap, and I have yet to hear Derka rap, but if I were a betting man I'd put $ on Nicki bodying dude on a track. She's the best (not just the hottest) female rapper out now, and she hasn't even dropped a retail album.

[aaronisnotcool]

i go the extreme opposite way and i gave her many honest listens. if she wants to be good she needs to leave young money or at least go a different direction bc she's become worse. her raps suck worse now, she isn't spitting about shit, and i don't her seriously as an artist. i told somebody this the other night that she's become a mix between wayne and gaga. she may be the best rapping chick out there but that doesn't mean much since there aren't any other there.

[neverwenttoUT]

She has to sell records now which means pleasing the mainstream. Also lately all she has been doing is playing around with the technical aspects of rap. The latest features she has had are all club songs in which she bodied technically, switching flows etc... Not sure about you but not many care to much about lyrics to a song in the club. I think her album is going to take some people by surprise.

[aaronisnotcool]

dude stop making excuses for her. and i know what her features sound like, i've heard most of them and i've passed on most of them. not sure about you but to be taken seriously you can't just getting on club songs. and for the record she doesn't HAVE to do shit. she chooses to pander to the record sales as a symbol of acknowledgment or visible success. which i guess most rappers do at some time or another. i just don't buy her perceived level of talent. she's not better than most little known guys like wale, lupe, doom, and her flow is like the anti-wiz khalifa. the only thing is she chooses to dumb her product down.

[neverwenttoUT]

She doesn't just have club songs out there. The song in the original OP isn't a club song. Hell I posted some of her non club-ish songs in this thread. She doesn't have an album out. Not quite sure exactly what type of music you expect her to be putting out at this time. All she is doing is features with her peers, building a fan base which despite your opinions of her music is growing quite rapidly.


Also not sure how you think the music business works but once you sign on that dotted line you work for the music company and not for your self. Anything she does at this point has to be approved by the label, she can make all the self conscious music, that you would obviously rather hear, all she wanted and none of it would get approved, and she would never get an album out. She is now in the business of making money for her label and her self, and she is going to HAVE to put out music that is going to appeal to the mainstream and to the people that will actually go out and buy albums, and not the few hip hop purist scattered amongst the Internet. And you're right there is no comparison between her and any of the people you mentioned, but that's primarily because she isn't the same type of artist they are either, but I would wager she will sell more records than them all probably combined.

[Derka Derka]

dude stop making excuses for her. and i know what her features sound like, i've heard most of them and i've passed on most of them. not sure about you but to be taken seriously you can't just getting on club songs. and for the record she doesn't HAVE to do shit. she chooses to pander to the record sales as a symbol of acknowledgment or visible success. which i guess most rappers do at some time or another. i just don't buy her perceived level of talent. she's not better than most little known guys like wale, lupe, doom, and her flow is like the anti-wiz khalifa. the only thing is she chooses to dumb her product down.

aaron, when Me, you, MI, DeMar, and Mike Soul were having that long ass conversation/debate about rappers, what was the final say on Nicki Minaj? I wanna say that only one of us said we liked her, and most of the rest pretty much said, "She has her moments, but for the most part she isn;t that impessive. She needs to do more of X and less of X if she wants to be respected", or whatever. ADoes that seem like an accurate assessment of how it went down to you? Also, I was so glad that everyone in the room said that lyrically Nas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jay Z.

[aaronisnotcool]

She doesn't just have club songs out there. The song in the original OP isn't a club song. Hell I posted some of her non club-ish songs in this thread. She doesn't have an album out. Not quite sure exactly what type of music you expect her to be putting out at this time. All she is doing is features with her peers, building a fan base which despite your opinions of her music is growing quite rapidly.

do you think i did not know that? do you really think that i don't know all of her shit? or that she doesn't have an album out yet? or what genre of hip-hop she's in? also, i never said she just does club songs i said "she gets on" meaning SHE is the featured artist (like My chick bad bottoms up or lil freak). just wanted to clarify that. i don't care what percentage of the mainstream public likes her or not, that's not what i'm arguing, or "how who she's working with is really making a name for herself and standing out within the general public of the greater music industry". i couldn't give a shit. wanted to clear that up too.

Also not sure how you think the music business works but once you sign on that dotted line you work for the music company and not for your self. Anything she does at this point has to be approved by the label, she can make all the self conscious music, that you would obviously rather hear, all she wanted and none of it would get approved, and she would never get an album out. She is now in the business of making money for her label and her self, and she is going to HAVE to put out music that is going to appeal to the mainstream and to the people that will actually go out and buy albums, and not the few hip hop purist scattered amongst the Internet.

yea the label really has to do that don't they, no one has ever published anything that hasn't been approved.

And you're right there is no comparison between her and any of the people you mentioned, but that's primarily because she isn't the same type of artist they are either, but I would wager she will sell more records than them all probably combined.

and you know what, she can make all the fucking money she can. and you can be in the front of her parade leading the cheers. but know this if she keeps doing what she's doing she will never be as good or have the respect that they have. bc i can promise you they care more about their fans then they do about pleasing record labels, getting paychecks and radio hits. that's a young money by product.
and that also has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about.

[aaronisnotcool]

aaron, when Me, you, MI, DeMar, and Mike Soul were having that long ass conversation/debate about rappers, what was the final say on Nicki Minaj? I wanna say that only one of us said we liked her, and most of the rest pretty much said, "She has her moments, but for the most part she isn;t that impessive. She needs to do more of X and less of X if she wants to be respected", or whatever. ADoes that seem like an accurate assessment of how it went down to you? Also, I was so glad that everyone in the room said that lyrically Nas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jay Z.

the consensus was she has a lot of untapped talent but she has to get some space from young money. she can sing her own hooks and rap her own stuff and she'll have one of the most unique voices out there and she'll probably have a large group of males paying attention bc of her looks but the females will also have close eye on what she does bc she's the biggest female artist next to gaga. we all agreed that she killed some songs, but that she had songs like 'your love' that make you want to cut your ears off.

[Rocko20]

shaggy please allow me to intervene.

Nicki Manaj is pure dogshit garbage. Shes only hyped up because she associates with young money and jumps on the bangwagon of numerous songs from Wayne and Drake. Here delivery sucks, her lyrics are pathetic, she would never make it by herself. She fucks up every track she is on.

But in this day in age if you have big tits and a big ass then everyone will give you a pass. She benefits from a time in the music industry that has no other female rappers, thats it.

[neverwenttoUT]

Derka you accepted a challenge in this thread. I have posted songs, lets get on with it. Get assistance from your "group" aaron, MI, DeMar, and Mike Sou, whomever to help if needed but lets not delay this any further.


Aaron, Nicki just isn't the type of artist you want her to be currently. At this time she is in it for the fame and money, once she becomes an established artist, like the one you compared her to(Eminem) then maybe she will make more music that will please you, and if you don't understand why Eminem is able to basically get away with stuff like that then yea I don't think you understand how the industry works. We'll just agree to disagree going forward.

[HoosierHorn]

shaggy please allow me to intervene.

Nicki Manaj is pure dogshit garbage. Shes only hyped up because she associates with young money and jumps on the bangwagon of numerous songs from Wayne and Drake. Here delivery sucks, her lyrics are pathetic, she would never make it by herself. She fucks up every track she is on.

But in this day in age if you have big tits and a big ass then everyone will give you a pass. She benefits from a time in the music industry that has no other female rappers, thats it.

i'm almost a man... so i agree with this... i've never heard of this chick before right now...

and yes, derka is a better rapper than Nicki Manaj ...and i'm not much of a fan of derka's style (texas rap sometimes insists upon itself and can't get out of it's box...). i heard some potential, but i know 100 guys and 3 chicks that can write and rap better than that... none of them have as big of an ass or tits.... or record deal.

i'm old.

[aaronisnotcool]

if you don't understand why Eminem is able to basically get away with stuff like that then yea I don't think you understand how the industry works.

no i just don't think that your argument of her having to please labels bc she is now their employee and she has to make the music that they want is bunk, when em made music talking his daughter through him murdering her mother, step dad and step brother or releasing a single about robbing a liqorstore/statutory rape/killing a cheating couple. and you're telling me that nicki can't get a little room to do what she wants even on the mixtapes she's released. i'm not comparing her to em i'm just using his SS lp as an example.
em was backed by dre
nicki is backed by wayne

[neverwenttoUT]

Your assuming the music Em made wasn't what the label wanted when it actually was. Em was built on being controversial and rebellious. Do you honestly think he enjoyed making Just Lose It, Please Stand Up etc.... You really think those songs were his call?

[aaronisnotcool]

maybe later on that was the case when the record label realized what a success it was. that also hurt him going forward. those singles you mentioned were not on the slim shady lp.

[neverwenttoUT]

Hoosier you lost me at you have never heard of her until now.


Aaron Em has been rapping about the same content his entire career. Recovery was the first CD he got some leeway. And My Name Is.... Was the lead single for SSLP which is in the same mode of the songs I mentioned.

[TxArch]

meh.

[aaronisnotcool]

Aaron Em has been rapping about the same content his entire career. Recovery was the first CD he got some leeway. And My Name Is.... Was the lead single for SSLP which is in the same mode of the songs I mentioned.

first of all, no. Slim shady lp is where he got some leeway otherwise they wouldn't have put the bitch or ken kaniff skits. my name is was as just as radical as all of the other songs on the album and more radical then Just lose it and please stand up. maybe you should go back and listen to him talking about how he wants to impregnate spice girls, his mother doing drugs, drinking and driving, masturbating, slitting throats in his first official single which was in 1999.

second, we're need to get back on topic so you can defend nicki minaj some more.

[neverwenttoUT]

Not sure how anything you just said regarding Em goes against what I just said. They wanted Em to be the "crazy white boy" the content he rapped about starting with the SSLP is exactly what the label wanted which is why the skits yo mentioned were included. The lead singles for his albums have always followed the same formula.

And I not defending Nicki just giving my opinion. No artist has a 100% following and I doubt Nicki is worried about the number of fans she has that are also Longhorn fans.