Kanye leaks another song....

[Derka Derka]

Derka you accepted a challenge in this thread. I have posted songs, lets get on with it. Get assistance from your "group" aaron, MI, DeMar, and Mike Sou, whomever to help if needed but lets not delay this any further.


Aaron, Nicki just isn't the type of artist you want her to be currently. At this time she is in it for the fame and money, once she becomes an established artist, like the one you compared her to(Eminem) then maybe she will make more music that will please you, and if you don't understand why Eminem is able to basically get away with stuff like that then yea I don't think you understand how the industry works. We'll just agree to disagree going forward.

Well, you're gonna have to hold on a for just a bit longer. My album is in the process of being mixed and mastered, and it'll be released in 3 weeks at the latest. I'll talk to my producer when I see him tonight and see if I can realease maybe a few mixtape verses, but you're gonna have to wait to hear my album, and you're gonna have to trust me when I say that I'm not currently gathering the troops and freaking about, wondering how I'm gonna be able to come up with some song better than that Nicki Minaj garbage.

[neverwenttoUT]

Ok let's be clear, does Nicki have some garbage material out there, yes, like Massive Attack, I couldn't get through one listen of that song. She has misses out there but she also has some decent to very good material out there as well. To state right now she is not talented or is a completely horrible rapper IMO is asinine at this time. Derka I do NOT want you to put out any material early that you plan on attempting to make money on. I thought you would have some songs in the vault to work with, but the issue is not that serious for you to leak songs for. Aaron my workday is over so if you respond and I don't I'm not ignoring you it's just I don't need to past time right now.

[TxArch]

Massive Attack is not garbage.

[neverwenttoUT]

Umm the song Massive Attack by Nicki Minaj is, which is the one I was talking about.....





But my favorite song by the group Massive Attack is

[TxArch]

I had no idea you were discussing nicki minaj.

[neverwenttoUT]

Yep I figured as much which is why I felt I needed to clear that up for you.

[TxArch]

I was in a coma for 80% of this thread.

[neverwenttoUT]

Glad the sounds of Nicki Minaj brought you out your coma.

[Derka Derka]

So, in the spirit of not keeping neverwent waiting, here is a verse from my upcoming mixtape. I had M.i upload it for me, and it's not mixed or edited yet, i'll to touch it up obviously, but I think you'll be able to see past that for right now. I chose a song from the mixtape because it's more of the same ilk as what Nicki Mniaj puts out there, and a lot of my album stuff is not only not ready to be released, but it's just a completely different style that may not show my actual MC skills as much as it does my writing/putting together a complete song skills. My album is more Jay Z than Nas, if you feel me on that, meaning not necesarily mind blowing lyrics, but more of putting a complete product together. lyrics for this track are posted below:



jumpin right on in it aint no need to state my name/hoes all know who I was when I hop up in the club (they) know I'm paid so they throw game/aint yo dame the one who was poppin on her pussy in my face cuz ya stay so lame/aint have a choice but to hop up on the mic and propose to the bitch like it aint no thang/that's a shame/cuz back in high school let the team run train at the Waco game/same dumb slut always stay fucked up and she still try to front like she hate cocaine/aint no thang/her gums stay numb so she give the best head call it yayo brain/front all you want she a hoe and she been from the go so you really know she aint gone change/thats ok/dont nobody really wanna fuck wit ya old lady anyway/i be on the raod doin shows with my bros and they recognize a baller like NBA/any day/ya hoe gone probably show up at ya crib with a new last name/she be strippin at night while I'm sippin on a flight she a hoe from the go shoulda knew that thang/who's that man/who don't give a fuck if these hoes wanna suck or they use that brain/been a baller from the jump so i dont give a fuck if I bust on her face or her new black frames/ohh thats flame/i really shoulda stopped a while ago but I think i got one more line/ima get it once again when the jump in but I think I gotta let it drop one more time

[neverwenttoUT]

Off one listen your breathe control is just screaming out at me. Needs work also I think I may have heard some punch ins(I may be mistaken) not sure though, but if so you should be able to do that whole verse without punching.. Decent lyrics for a mixtape track, old beat though. And the verse doesn't need to be retouched it needs to be redone completely. Again I like the lyrics, the flow was fine but your breathing while rapping needs work it ruins the whole verse for me, your voice is straining at times due to lack of oxygen and it seems you rushed through the end of some lines because of it as well.

[Derka Derka]

Off one listen your breathe control is just screaming out at me. Needs work also I think I may have heard some punch ins(I may be mistaken) not sure though, but if so you should be able to do that whole verse without punching.. Decent lyrics for a mixtape track, old beat though. And the verse doesn't need to be retouched it needs to be redone completely. Again I like the lyrics, the flow was fine but your breathing while rapping needs work it ruins the whole verse for me, your voice is straining at times due to lack of oxygen and it seems you rushed through the end of some lines because of it as well.

you have just displayed such an amazing lack of knowledge as to how this actually works, that hopefully it will remind me to never even attempt to debate with your know-it-all ass again. I just told you that it's not mixed or edited. And I can spit the entire verese. I'm gonna have aaron record me doing it in a second. But good lord man, for someone who talks such a big game, you sure do talk out of your ass. You think a producer can make it sound like britney spears and ashlee simpson have great voices, but that they wont be able to straighten this track up enough to get rid of breathing? Child please.


One take: youtube uploading as we speak. You see, I record the verse, then layer it, then do my doubles. what you thought were fill-ins were doubles. C'mon son.

[Derka Derka]

bro, i promise you, as hard aas this may be to believe, I really dont like arguing with people. But damn man, you're just so set in your ways, like nothing I can show you will ever change your mind re: me vs nicki minaj. Just keep an open mind. Like just to appease you and live up to my end of the deal, I went and threw an unedited, unmixed, rough copy of a song on, and you just went and apparently skipped over that entire sentence. Like, I promise you man, I feel like we would be cool if we knew each other in real life, but you gotta understand that this is my craft, and I just feel disrespected.

edit: 71% uploaded, aaron has a high def camera sop it takes a while to upload. it says 13 min remaining.

[Derka Derka]

OK, here we have it:



lol @the thumbnail.

[neverwenttoUT]

2nd time was much better, I have no problems with that one. All in all a verse that short shouldn't need much editing or mixing. We have an ear for different things I guess, my first response was in regards to a technical aspect of rapping your breathing was all over the place and erractic. If I was your engineer I wouldn't have even accepted the verse the first time you laid it down for the reasons I stated, the 2nd time was fine. I didn't even bring up Nicki in my first response, because I am not going to make that comparison yet, I just critiqued what I heard and the problem I had with it. The second time you did the verse you corrected the issue. All I can say, and this isn't a slight to you at all, is just to respect the craft, realize the technical aspects of it. The first video reminded me of when we use to rap around the lunch table in high school, the 2nd video sounded like someone that actually knew what they were doing. And I am not just here to hate on you, because if that was the case I wouldn't give you props at all. But I am a harsh critic, just realize that. And you don't know who I am or what I do, maybe you'll find out one day, but really you should stop telling me what you think they know or don't know.


Edit*Thanks for the youtube shout out. You know I think you should get some shaggy users to host one of your mixtapes one day. That would be cool.

[TxArch]

So let's hear your rap neverwent.

[longhrnfan]

yeah

[neverwenttoUT]

Rapping is not what I do.

[TxArch]

Obviously

[aaronisnotcool]

2nd time was much better, I have no problems with that one. All in all a verse that short shouldn't need much editing or mixing. We have an ear for different things I guess, my first response was in regards to a technical aspect of rapping your breathing was all over the place and erractic. If I was your engineer I wouldn't have even accepted the verse the first time you laid it down for the reasons I stated, the 2nd time was fine. I didn't even bring up Nicki in my first response, because I am not going to make that comparison yet, I just critiqued what I heard and the problem I had with it. The second time you did the verse you corrected the issue. All I can say, and this isn't a slight to you at all, is just to respect the craft, realize the technical aspects of it. The first video reminded me of when we use to rap around the lunch table in high school, the 2nd video sounded like someone that actually knew what they were doing. And I am not just here to hate on you, because if that was the case I wouldn't give you props at all. But I am a harsh critic, just realize that. And you don't know who I am or what I do, maybe you'll find out one day, but really you should stop telling me what you think they know or don't know.

all of what you said would make one think you wouldn't like nicki minaj as an artist.

[neverwenttoUT]

Not sure what point you are trying to make Txarch.


Aaron 2 years ago I would have agreed with you, now not so much. Unless I'm remembering wrong you stated Nicki has potential. Where do you see the potential?

[aaronisnotcool]

she can sing her own hooks and rap her own stuff and she'll have one of the most unique voices out there and she'll probably have a large group of males paying attention bc of her looks but the females will also have close eye on what she does bc she's the biggest female artist next to gaga. we all agreed that she killed some songs, but that she had songs like 'your love' that make you want to cut your ears off.

here

[neverwenttoUT]

So the only real point we don't agree is the nature of music she is currently putting out and her skill level in comparison to Derka?

[aaronisnotcool]

we're arguing about the nature of her music, and subject matter. you're arguing with derka about who is lyrically better.

[aaronisnotcool]

and for the record, i like kanye's verse best.

[neverwenttoUT]

I can live with those disagreements.

[TxArch]

so what do you do neverwent

[TJ]

less videos of wiggers and more videos of p-ville twat.

[aaronisnotcool]

new good friday song
kanye - devil in a new dress
http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/09/04/...n-a-new-dress/

[neverwenttoUT]

so what do you do neverwent

Not that it's important to the thread but I work in the entertainment industry, and I'm being that vague on purpose.

[TxArch]

Not that it's important to the thread but I work in the entertainment industry, and I'm being that vague on purpose.

You just produced Butt Burglars 5, didn't you?

[neverwenttoUT]

Plenty money to be had in the porn business! Got to get it where I can.

[Durant Durant]

OK, here we have it:



lol @the thumbnail.

*dead*

[Derka Derka]

*dead*

Im not sure I understand what it is that you're trying to say.

[TxArch]

me neither. camron's dead?

[scottsins]

new good friday song
kanye - devil in a new dress
http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/09/04/...n-a-new-dress/

Wow. I find this new single to be a steaming pile of shit. I do not like this at all.

[Cheese]

kanye dont care about white poeple

[aaronisnotcool]

Wow. I find this new single to be a steaming pile of shit. I do not like this at all.

really? damn. i've been playing this song all weekend

[scottsins]

I will listen again. I didn't make it too far in the first time.

[scottsins]

K. Just gave it another shot. Do not like it at all, but it's really a matter of preference here. In other words, like a lot of stuff, I respect it, but I do not enjoy listening to it.

[aaronisnotcool]

fair enough. i was just a little surprised to see that you didn't like it.

[TxArch]

It's better than Monster. Did anyone see Ye's stream of consciousness tweets saturday morning? I happened to be on twitter at the same time & kept getting new tweet alerts from him one after another, something like 60 in all. Here they are in letter form:

http://gizmodo.com/5630204/kanye-wes...yline=true&s=i

It was pretty interesting to see his train of thought live & unfiltered.

[Durant Durant]

Im not sure I understand what it is that you're trying to say.

That's the face that I was making because you made a rap video to prove you can rap to another dude on a message board. Just seems kinda cheesy.

[aaronisnotcool]

That's the face that I was making because you made a rap video to prove you can rap to another dude on a message board. Just seems kinda cheesy.

[Derka Derka]

That's the face that I was making because you made a rap video to prove you can rap to another dude on a message board. Just seems kinda cheesy.

The guy posted a bunch of incredibly wrong nonsense, and not only did so, but did so in such a condescending and demeaning way that I had no choice but to shut him the fuck up. He had no idea what he was talking about, he is just a hater, like you. He cannot have an open mind. he decided that Nicki Minaj was better than me, and that was it. So, he completely ignored the fact that I clearly posted that the track was unedited and not mixed, and that i was posting just a sample verse to appease him. He then said my taking breaths was overbearing (listen to the track, it was not). He also said I couldnt spit the track at one time, and showed a complete lack of knowledge as to how recording rap works. he then is being very cryptic about what his profession he supposedly has, to somehow lend his blasphemy credence.

He ALSO told me that anyone should easily be able to spit that verse in one take. first off, HELL TO THE FUCK NO. There are many, many platinum rappers who would struggle mightily to spit that verse all in one take, so for him to act like that is just something that every rapper can effortlessly do is just ridiculous. But, as a 300 pound white guy, it's that much more impressive, whether you want to admit it or not. haters gonna hate, but do not ever disrespect my craft, especially in such an ignorant way, and expect me not to come back at you.

[neverwenttoUT]

Lol that's a lot of words you put in my mouth. Either way it's become obvious to me you come to Shaggy with your music for a pat on the back and not constructive criticism. Therefore I will refrain giving my opinion in regards to Derka Derka music going forward.

[TxArch]

or you could just say why you're more qualified to give musical criticism than the average bear.

[Derka Derka]

Lol that's a lot of words you put in my mouth. Either way it's become obvious to me you come to Shaggy with your music for a pat on the back and not constructive criticism. Therefore I will refrain giving my opinion in regards to Derka Derka music going forward.

I encourage all constructive criticism. You have nothing to give but biased, preformed opinions, that not only do not make any sense, but then you spout off with this cryptic, orangebloods type post, that somehow is supposed to make us think you know what youre talking about. "Oh, I know what Im talking about, you dont know where I work, but if you did, then, yeah". OK, so you work at sam goodie in sharpstown mall, way to go. Either start keeping it real, and actually trying to give constructive criticism, and back your shit up, or shut the fuck up.

[TxArch]

man, i haven't been in a sam goody in forever!

[neverwenttoUT]

I encourage all constructive criticism. You have nothing to give but biased, preformed opinions, that not only do not make any sense, but then you spout off with this cryptic, orangebloods type post, that somehow is supposed to make us think you know what youre talking about. "Oh, I know what Im talking about, you dont know where I work, but if you did, then, yeah". OK, so you work at sam goodie in sharpstown mall, way to go. Either start keeping it real, and actually trying to give constructive criticism, and back your shit up, or shut the fuck up.

I find it funny you claim I don't know what I am talking about yet corrected the very issue I constructively criticized you for, whether you did it subconsciously or not the second time you did your verse, which was 10x's better than what you did the first time and I stated as much and basically gave you props for. So what was biased about my opinion? How could I preform an opinion on your breathe control? How did it not make any sense when you corrected that issue? Yea whatever dude, label me a hater because I don't praise your rapping skills. I'm over it, I'll let the rest of shaggy faithful give you pointers on how you can improve, because I am not going to go through this with you anytime I hear a problem with one of your songs. And I haven't been in Sharptown in like 7 years btw. All my shopping is done at the Galleria, or Memorial City Mall.

[TxArch]

still haven't told us what you do (my money is on being a fluffer)