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I know I can Google them but I want to hear from the shag. I see them at wal-mart a lot. Are they Amish?
Not the one who posts here.
i think they're fascinating
Fucking Mennonites, how do they work?
No, but I hear they do a lot of drugs. And cuss a lot.
But they don't ski. Ever.
fuck you...
and fuck skiing...
little known fact: the Book of Common Prayer considers it sound doctrine to genuflect in the presence of a Mennonite...
waddaya wanna know, Bash?
The company I used to work for was bought out by another company. Some VP's came down to Austin and gave an hour long talk about the company and it's values. During the presentation they talked about how the town they are based in was originally settled as a Mennonite community, and as such they are very cheap and hard working, and cheap, and frugal, and don't like spending money, and know the value of a dollar, blah blah blah.
So we go to dinner with them that night and we end up at Trulocks. The waiter brings up this appetizer extravaganza with shrimp, oysters and a bunch of other stuff. We all kinda look at each other and say no thanks and the vp says great we'll take it. The thing cost around $150. So they bring it to the table and they need to clear off about 75% of the table to put this thing down. It's 3 stories tall, has dry ice to keep stuff cold, and the fog rolling off the thing engulfs the table. There was enough seafood on this thing to feed a navy. I was full after eating my share of it.
So my coworker turns to the vp and says, "so, mennonites, big seafood fans eh?"
Comment goes completely over his head and he replies "no, not really, why do you ask?"
Mennonite 101:
16th Century Reformation Anabaptists who essentially joined the Swiss State church: Mennonites
16th Centuray Reformation Anabaptists who essentially rejected the Swiss State church: Amish
That'll be $25,000 guest lecture fee. Just use PayPal. Thanks.
XOriginally Posted by phdhorn
Wrong...
the Swiss State Church was Calvinism...it's capital was Geneva.
Mennonites preceded Amish, both declaring our founder to be Menno Simons in what is now The Netherlands. our birth came in the Radical Reformation and we were called Anabaptist, "ana" the prefix for "Re-baptized" due to our move to adult rather than infant baptism (which was the only sticking point to our being in full communion with Rome upon negotiations early in our history).
Well, that and a bitter disagreement about the Designated Hitter rule. Cathlicks like the longball, but the Mennonites kept prattling on about "the purity of the game." It was a dealbreaker.and we were called Anabaptist, "ana" the prefix for "Re-baptized" due to our move to adult rather than infant baptism (which was the only sticking point to our being in full communion with Rome upon negotiations early in our history).
the DH should be permabanned...
since the first thing that came up was church/state issues, here's the Mennonite position...and I unapologetically address this evangelically...much of which is a repeat of what i've stated here in the past...
first, the vast majority of us Mennonites do not say the pledge or salute on theological grounds: our allegiance belongs to the Triune God only. For us, the political unit which determines where our allegiances lie is the Church...God's Holy Nation and Kingdom that is in the world but not of the world....comprised of people from every tribe and every all nation who bear witness to God's glory.
and make no mistake, the Kingdom of God is in fact a political unit: with a sovereign head (the Trinitarian God) and subjects (the Body of Christ) who are called to live a life of unconditional sacrifice, peacemaking, justice and mercy. for example, we do not have an economy, we ARE an economy ("sell all you have and give it to the poor" for example).
we see the Pledge of Allegiance as having displaced the Apostle's Creed as the primary expression of the Christian faith throughout the Church in America, be it Protestant or Catholic. this subtle hegemony has often made it impossible for Christians to stand against the Powers and Principalities that come in the form of war, violence, poverty, economic injustice, oppression, and many other acts that run counter to the demands of the Gospel. this displacement, unintentional as it may be, often makes it impossible to see acts of injustice because it creates a confusion that any and all acts done in the name of the State are the will of God, which is a subtle admission that the secular political state has been vested with more power to control the behaviors and beliefs of Christians than God's Kingdom here on earth.
any time another entity (say, a nation-state) or thing (say, material wealth) other than God is given the power to determine one's beliefs and actions, that entity IS your god. it's one of the oldest, purest and most wide-spread forms of idolatry witnessed both today and throughout the history of the Church.
but it's not just the Pledge of Allegiance we eschew. being a Mennonite, I do not swear oaths of any sort because of the potential conflict with the oath I swore at baptism that may arise. being a lawyer, this particular practice of our faith caused somewhat of a dilemma when I was to be sworn in after passing the bar, requiring me to petition the supreme court in my state for an special exemption from taking the oath on religious grounds with the understanding that if my petition was denied I would not practice law. however, the Court saw fit to grant my exemption and I've been a lawyer for 11 years now.
so there's that...
Well that's certainly not crazy.
Didn't know you were of that heritage. Actually I was wrong, as you said (bad edit). I didn't mean "Swiss State Church" (which I obviously recognize as the Calvinist (French-oriented) and Zwinglist (German-oriented) branches of the Old Reformed Church. I should have said "state church" as in the branch of Simons' followers recognized by the state vs. Ammann's "breakoff" faction from Simons (also understanding the subsequent history of Amish emigration from Europe, etc.). (I'm the Calvin/Knox/Scottish strain of Reformed Presbyterianism).
Did know about the adult baptism.
Can I still get $15,000, Alex?
Last edited by phdhorn; 09-08-2010 at 05:41 PM.
Yeah, but in fairness not a very good one.
why do you hate america?
i get this question so much i truly cannot tell whether you're being serious or sarcastic.
Last edited by judge roybeanbag; 09-08-2010 at 05:56 PM. Reason: To add more mennonite!
My bet is that he is an American Leaguer and just didn't cut off enough of your post.
it's like islam but with apple butter instead of tabouleh
LOL great story.
My old man used to say they were big into quarter horses (racing).
uh, derp derp
i think she's a ra-tard
I heard they do some crazy shit with their foreskins, or their taints or sumpin.
we feed our horses foreskins slathered in apple butter...
Wait a second, KE is an actual Mennonite? I just thought you were Catholic or something.
Why do Mennonite women wear so many damn clothes, yet you have a bikini-clad ass for your avatar?
He's all about the ass.
I can say from personal experience they make some outstanding Elderberry jelly. And homemade honey peanut butter. Though I don't run that way, I made sure to buy some of their stuff if only cause they're goon christian folk. I ate that shit up. Mountain view arkansas is where they have a nice store with all their homemade crap.
And they dress funny at the Walmart.
Last edited by TheTexasHammer; 09-08-2010 at 11:16 PM.
Are you sure you didin't mean men in tights?
I have eaten at 3 Yoder's Mennonite restaurants in 3 different states. Pot roast, mashed potatoes butterbeans, mac and cheese, fried chicken and great pie.
Just out of curiosity, is this some kind of chain?
only Old Order and Conservative Mennonites have rules on dress. Old Order wear no jewelry, the clothing is black or blue....the women wear skirts and bonnets, the men avoid wearing ties and their shirts don't have any buttons....all of which is to avoid appearing vain and drawing attention to oneself.
Conservatives are free to dress in whatever colors they choose, but the women still wear bonnets and skirts.
Contemporaries like myself are indistinguishable from the general public in terms of dress. we're the ones that do not eschew technology or other modern conveniences, run the Mennonite colleges and universities (for example, Goshen College), etc.
Miss Mexico 2009 is a Mennonite...
despite our differences in outward appearance, all three have a strong relationship and mutual respect for one another because we share the exact same theological tenants, that it's the Christian life and how it is practiced...faith, charity, nonviolent Christian resistence...that is primary to who were and unites us, despite the differences in our outward appearance.
oh...i have the avatar because i'm a damn good...some say outstanding...heterosexual who likes bikini clad ass with LSU in the kill zone.
but i'll change it if you really want me to...
Last edited by Kyrie Eleison; 09-09-2010 at 01:58 AM.
Beat me to it. Was gonna say "These guys are much funnier" and post the following pick:
We're men, we're mennonites.
We roam around the forest looking for fights.
The Amish are a sub-grouping of Mennonite churches. The Mennonites are a group of Christian Anabaptist denominations named after the Frisian Menno Simons (1496–1561), who, through his writings, articulated and thereby formalized the teachings of earlier Swiss founders. The teachings of the Mennonites were founded on their belief in both the mission and ministry of Jesus Christ, which they held to with great conviction despite persecution by the various Roman Catholic and Protestant states. Rather than fight, the majority survived by fleeing to neighboring states where ruling families were tolerant of their radical belief in adult baptism. Over the years, Mennonites have become known as one of the historic peace churches because of their commitment to nonviolence.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonite
also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish
David Ash, our incoming QB recruit is a Mennonite, and I believe, the kind that eschews technology and stuff.
^^^
He's easy to pick out on the field -- just look for the leather helmet.
So that means we ARE going with black jerseys! Sweet!
"...non-violent..."
So no military service for believers??
That's right. And that's one of the real big problems the Mennonites have had over the years. KE can undoubtedly expand on this point, but in the post-Napoleonic era in which armies were "nationalized" rather than simply being formed of for-hire mercenaries, citizens who refused to participate in the military weren't really appreciated. That was especially true in militaristic countries (e.g., Nazi Germany, Communist era Czechoslovakia), where Mennonites were imprisioned or killed in concentration or labor camps.
Yeah, they're like Quakers without the bitchin' oatmeal.So no military service for believers??
As for me, I think it's more to do with them being COMPLETE AND TOTAL PUSSIES, not pacifists. At least, based on the one mennonite I know, that appears to be the case.
Just a personal anecdote, but the few people from mennonite backgrounds that I have met in real life are some of the most genuine and charitable people I have ever met.
. . . and foul-mouthed.
I don't get to say this much on Shaggy but I learned quite a bit of random shit on this thread. My previous knowledge of this topic was WAY off. Not even in the outfield but more like the parking lot.
no...we've been historically non-violent from the beginning, refusing to take up arms in self-defense as far back as the Reformation....when Calvinist, Lutheran, and/or Catholic armies would come upon Anabaptists communities, the Anabaptists would lay down and expose their necks, fully aware that it would likely lead to their own demise....which it did many times.
there's a joke that the only thing Calvinists and Lutherans could agree on was the need to slaughter Anabaptists
anyway, taking up arms (pretty much violence against another person in any form, including self-defense) is forbidden...we're categorized as CO status during drafts, and would lend our aid in hospitals and other service projects that needed manpower due to employees fighting overseas.
briefly, from wiki...
note that we accepted no wages from the government and paid our own even though they were govt. "employees".In the United States, Civilian Public Service (CPS) provided an alternative to military service during World War II. From 1941 to 1947, 4,665 Mennonites, Amish and Brethren in Christ[18] were among nearly 12,000 conscientious objectors who performed work of national importance in 152 CPS camps throughout the United States and Puerto Rico. The draftees worked in areas such as soil conservation, forestry, fire fighting, agriculture, social services and mental health.
The CPS men served without wages and minimal support from the federal government. The cost of maintaining the CPS camps and providing for the needs of the men was the responsibility of their congregations and families. Mennonite Central Committee coordinated the operation of the Mennonite camps. CPS men served longer than regular draftees, not being released until well past the end of the war. Initially skeptical of the program, government agencies learned to appreciate the men's service and requested more workers from the program. CPS made significant contributions to forest fire prevention, erosion and flood control, medical science and reform of the mental health system.
we are beholding to no govt. and resist any tie that may create a situation where we're contingent upon secular govt. policy for our well-being.
fuckin' A, bro...
I don't know about that shit but the Dunkers make some bad ass sweet rolls. http://www.redlandriot.com/Knaus.html http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/short...n_pictures.php
so somebody tell us about the kick ass sweet roll making Dunkers.
Last edited by MrPhlegm; 09-09-2010 at 01:47 PM.
lolz
I used to be a mennenite.
Now I'm a Dapper Dan man.
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