Good to see this project really picking up steam...
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Good to see this project really picking up steam...
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is the new mosque in there too ?
did people really believe that the mosque was going to be built on a street called Church? It was going to be blocks away for goodness sakes.
I think the new World Trade Center should be the biggest amalgamation of American culture and free ever displayed in one city block. The building should house firms that are exclusively into capitalism, banking, law, etc. There should be a food court staffed with enormously obese people, there should be a strip club, a polling place where you can vote every November, a literary publishing house, an art gallery, a satellite office of the New York Times and WSJ, offices of foreign diplomats with whom the U.S. is on good relations, a cinema house that shows movies of all ratings, a public gathering hall for speeches and protests du jour, a 2-story wall that's simply the U.S. Constitution plastered on the wall, another portrait gallery displaying American females who helped change the world while wearing regular clothing, and another of religious and ethnic minorities that have done the same, there would be a discrete worship house for all faiths like the one in the Pentagon, and finally-a Starbuck's.
anyone have pictures of what is will look like?
I've heard they're knocking out about a floor a week.
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BTW, I wont swear to it, but I think because of the layout of JFK, there are height restrictions in downtown Manhattan that prevent any building from being built much taller than the old WTC. Certainly no chance of a "world's tallest" type building.
Great..now get the $#@!ing memorial done so the families can have a place to grieve.
not entirely sure why we have to sacrifice Billions of Dollars worth of NYC office space in order to not build on the footprints of the freaking towers.
Losing them sucked bad, we lost about 2,800 people, but sacrificing the entire footprint to future construction is retarded.
Like it or not, time heals a lot of these wounds. Its been 9 years 3+ months since that day. The longer we dwell on it the more the terrorists win.
Not talking about the entire footprint. I understand the value of that land. There has to be something that can be done though. Do commercial interests always have to have 100% priority? The families that never had remains of their loved ones recovered have nothing. They might have a tombstone, but it's not the same. There has to be something that can be done without slowing up progress. It's been 10 years.
why do they need a place to grieve? there is a memorial there however it won't really be usable until the overall building is finished.
Some people need that. Just thought it was the right thing to do. build away. and put a walmart there too.
And FWIW..I like the design and I do not hate capitalism.
What the memorial will eventually look like...
I don't know if it's best best use of space, but I think it's classy and will give people a spot to remember that day. 50 years from now, if I have grandkids, I will have a place to take them and show them the spot where those buildings once stood and then I will be able to point next door to the giant skyscraper that took their place and say that building is America's symbolic "$#@! you" to a bunch of cave-dwelling $#@!s. I find that kind of cool and appropriate.
I think the memorial and the new building will bring in a ton of money to the city. It will become a must-see historical landmark for a country that doesn't really have a ton of those compared to other places across the world. Yes, NYC doesn't need the money, blah blah blah, but the memorial won't actually be a financial loser, even if the opportunity cost is extremely large. It will add to the need for most folks to visit one of the greatest places for tourism in the western hemisphere.
I will be in NYC tomorrow and wasn't planning on visiting the site while we were there, but I now I think I'll try to convince the fam to head down there for a look-see. It looks like it's really coming on. It seems like 18 months ago when I was there, it was still just a big set of holes.
Even as a construction site, it's the number one place that everyone who has visited me up here wants to see. If you didn't find it before, for a good look at the site, go to the Winter Garden at the World Financial Center and you can see it.
Pictures still aren't showing much progress on the PATH, 1, E, and R stations. Looks like another 10 year wait.
To be clear, I try to see it and the whole Wall Street, Battery Park thing every time I am up there. Just wasn't planning on it this time since last time it didn't look like any progress was being made. Now it seems like there's a lot happening. Hopefully we can see it with a snow and 5 degree weather. That will be awesome.
Can't show the big tower without the others. I believe the 3 tallest are under construction.
Last edited by happy fun ball; 01-22-2011 at 09:41 AM. Reason: adding more
Are you serious? please provide some more details regarding the comparative historical sites or lack there of. And a resident of lower Manhattan, stay the $#@! out of my hood you $#@!ing gawking tourist. it's a construction site, nothing to see. have fun at Century 21!
In regard to historical landmarks compared to the rest of the world, or the Old World, what's to discuss? You can walk for two blocks in most European cities and see more $#@! that had some significance at some point and is, like, older than our country by hundreds of years, than you can walking through entire cities over here. It's just a matter of age as much as anything. I didn't realize that's debatable. The WTC location will be something people visit for hundreds of years if it's done right.
If you will be there post some pictures here. I would love to see more pictures from real perspective.
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Unfortunately, when it opens, it will be the 3rd tallest behind the Burj Khalifa and the Abraj Al Bait Towers (1,972 feet tall) due to open this year in Saudi Arabia. After that, it will quickly drop as currently under construction is the India Tower (2,362 feet) in Mumbai due to open in '16, the Pingan International Finance Centre (2,126 feet) in Shenzhen due to open in '15 and Shanghai Tower (2,073 feet) due to open in '14. The Freedom Tower (One World Trade Center as it is officially known) will also fall behind the Goldin Finance 117 (1,959 feet) in Tianjin, China and the Doha Convention Center Tower (1,808 feet) in Qatar. Both towers are under construction, but on hold at the moment.
I thought the new WTC is gonna be roughly the same height (or slightly taller) as the Twin Towers. Is that not correct?
The old WTC (1 WTC to be exact) was 1,368 feet tall from ground to roof and 1,727 feet tall to the spire. The new One WTC will be 1,368 feet tall to the roof (exact same as the old 1 WTC) and 1,776 feet tall to the spire. So yes, the new building at it's structural peak will only be about 50 feet taller than the old.
Bump...saw a documentary last night on the project. Got awful dusty when they lowered Ladder Company 3's fire truck into the memorial section.
Was even more touching knowing that Osama sleeps with the fishes.
Last edited by Snow Dog; 08-26-2011 at 08:58 AM.
where did u see the documentary? I'd like to see that
I assume that dong on top is a Minuteman III nuclear ICBM.
Now wait one gd minute. Everyone needs underwear and socks.have fun at Century 21!
There were many times when I stopped in there on my way to WFC to get a new pair of socks at 7 AM as it was pouring down rain.
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