Doctor should have never stopped it everyone wanted the fight to continue. Margarito was willing to take his beating like a man they should have let him.
Doctor should have never stopped it everyone wanted the fight to continue. Margarito was willing to take his beating like a man they should have let him.
Would've really like to see the fight go on. Cotto was winning the fight from the get go but I never once counted Margarito out. I can understand the dr's point but I just really want to see Cotto put Margarito to his knees. I'm glad Cotto won the fight. Just my personal opinion though, I think Cotto is regressing. His punches just doesn't seem to have the power he's had in the past and I don't understand as to why he and his corner abandoned the body punches. Alvarez vs. COtto would be interesting but I might just have to give the edge to Alvarez.
This town is pretty bad ass. For a humble little one light post
We're counting on some badass stories from you...
Thanks for the link.
GLo, you posting up some pics?
Margarito acted like a bitch after the fight. Still wouldn't admit Cotto $#@!ed his $#@! up and swole that eye.
trip report Part 1:
working on consolidating some of the pics and videos, as they live on three different cell phones. There's another poster here, threesheets. Me and him were roommates at UT back in 93-94, and his brother also went. We're all three huge Cotto fans and being in NYC is always a blast, so this was a definite sports dream vacation for us. It was also cool (albeit touristy) that we were at NYC in December. Really cool, festive place this time of year.
We got there Friday around 6. We met some guys who it turns out own a bar in Brooklyn called NoBar. Kind of a seedy location, but the bar was really cool and we had been to Manhattan a few times before, so we felt like it would be cool to hang out in old school Brooklyn one of our three nights. It was a good choice. This one particular fellow was coming up the subway steps on Nostrand Ave. and saw me with a UT jacket on, and proceeded to walk with us for a while and talk UT sports. He asked me how come Colt McCoy sucks all of the sudden, because he was so good a few years back. I think he was truly confused about eligibility requirements and the fact that we now actually have a different McCoy at qb now. He didn't seem to want to understand that concept, so we rolled with it and just decided to not interrupt him, and I admitted that yes, in fact, McCoy had gone way downhill since 2008-2009, and it was a disappointing turn of events for a UT fan. He then proceeded to tell me that for either some free cigarettes or weed that he would take us to a girl who served free Hennessey at a liquor store between "the chop shop and the Bruce Lee video exchange store." I pondered this, then thought this was a chance we could not turn down. So we didn't. And he had described it perfectly. We shared several Newport shorts with our recently found chop shop friends, drank a little Yak, then proceeded to go to NoBar down the street. The bar owners we met decided to start the night off with consecutive rounds of Jameson shots, so it wasn't too far down the road till everything went a little hazy. But it was a $#@!ing blast. This one drunk ass dude at the bar was loudly claiming that he never had to pay for drinks at the bar because he was tight with the owners. This was said between him receiving multiple calls on his blue tooth. He was then asked to pay in advance for all of his drinks, and wondered why the bartenders kept paying for us to get Jameson shots. So he decided he would get his revenge by challenging threesheets' brother to best of 5 pool for 100 bucks. He lost 3-0 and then broke the news that he didn't have the 100 dollars and sprinted out.
Fight day. We moved to our second hotel, on 51st and Lexington. Subway ride was kind of a beating carting the luggage around with us, but we made it. Certainly a different feel than Brooklyn the night before. The hotel was right by St. Patricks Cathedral, which is really $#@!ing impressive. We did the Madison and Park avenue walk thing, got our touristy stuff for the day out of the way, then posted up and watched a little of the Texas Baylor game which sucked ass of course. But we got nicely buzzed. Gates for the fight opened at 7, and we decided to head that way.
The Madison Square Garden scene outside is kind of interesting. From the street view we entered at, it looks like an office highrise. If it weren't for the sign telling you it was Madison Square Garden you would have no clue that it was a sports venue. We were informed that there was no designated smoking area in the arena (more on that later), so we decided to smoke a few on the street outside before heading in. The scene outside was $#@!ing electric. It looked exactly like a Puerto Rican day parade. Everyone had flags, there was a lot of Puerto Rican chants going on, etc. When we finally headed in, the first four rounder on the undercard was already done. We got to our seats, which were pretty good. Then we found out that they had not only beer but full service shot bars on the general concourse, so we proceeded to party with Mr. Jameson again, and a couple of hours in were pretty buzzed. By that time the crowd had gotten pretty thick. We had this Joe New Yorker dude right behind us, and at first he was kind of annoying, but he was funny as $#@! and really knew his boxing. A typical sentence was "Man if mother$#@! Cotto has his $#@!ing footwork in order this is gonna be a $#@!ing beating, $#@!s. He's gonna $#@!ing kill that mother$#@! piece of $#@! Margarito. I hope he $#@!ing puts him out of commission for good, $#@!." This went on non stop for about three hours. About 11:00 this dude comes sprinting down the section and yels "These $#@!s are putting out last call!!!! You $#@!ing believe that $#@!!" At that point everyone streams out of their chairs for another round. I went to take a piss on the way back to the section, and at that point I found the designated smoking area. Every stall was filled with someone rolling joints, which were then passed around along with flasks, but only if you were rooting for Cotto.
This dude with a shirt and matching hat that said "Puerto Rico $#@!fighting 2011 Championship Tournament" apparently was the connect for all MSG weed deals in section 201-205 and he was holding court in stall #5 trying to "make that paper"
The last undercard was finishing up, so everyone headed back to their seats. They had a really cool 10 bell tribute to Smoking Joe Frazier, which after it was done got the crowd pretty charged up. Everyone booed their ass off for the Mexico anthem, and cheered their ass off for the PR national anthem.
The fight itself was electric. You knew early on once Margarito got his eye sliced up it was over. Cotto looked great with his footwork, and was jabbing well. Didn't seem like Cotto was working the body the way he did in his younger days when he just brutalized people with rib shots. But that may have had something to do with how effective he was pepper Margarito's face. Margarito had nothing on his punches the last half of the fight, so Cotto was willing to stay close to him more as the fight went along, and it really wasn't concerning. Never felt like Cotto was in any danger at all. Once they called it, all hell broke loose with the partying. On the way out of the arena, we saw two fights, including one where there was a crowd of people, and they had corners set up and everything. Took breaks like there were timed rounds, and the $#@! went on for about 10 minutes. Cop finally broke through and grabbed the dude who was winning decidedly. At that point the dude turned around and grabbed and pushed the cop and said "get your hands off me $#@!, I'm trying to whip this pussy's ass." The cop then escroted him and told him to leave but he wouldn't arrest him. Thought the guy was $#@!ed for sure but I guess the cop felt like he had better $#@! to worry about.
Outside the Garden, people lingered around for a while doing PR chants, drinking beer, taking pics, etc.
That's it for now, I'll try post the pics when we get them consolidated and follow up with the post fight mayhem at the bars, which was a story in itself.
Right now I'm $#@!ing beat and need to get some sleep.
Great $#@!ing time. I highly recommend going to a prize fight if you have never been. I definitely enjoyed the NY feel more than the Vegas feel.
it was pretty much 10 bucks for any alcoholic drink, beer or liquor. Let me tell you, drinks don't $#@! around in that city. I can't imagine what it takes to live there and be able to go out and drink several nights a week. Dude who lived in Bed Stuy told us he paid 1500 a month in Brooklyn, and some girls we hung out with were paying 3 grand a month for a $#@!ty apartment in midtown.
There used to be a poster on HornFans named HorninNYC that said you had to make atleast 80 grand to be single and live decently in New York and be able to afford going out for drinks once or twice a week, and that was without owning a car and paying for parking. I have to imagine that number is low after what we paid for drinks this weekend. But to be honest, we were in vacation mode, so drinks were flowing more heavily than they would have on just a normal weekend, if there is such a thing as a normal weekend in that $#@!ing city.
Oh by the way, Chuck Wepner, the Baytown Bleeder, was there and seemed like a real dirtbag.
On "The Layover" last week, two random fans asked Bourdain the best places to eat in NYC for under $15... After some thought, his only two answers were a burger joint (Shake Shack) & a hot dog place (Papaya). Pricey indeed.
we went the street food route for the most part. As threesheets said "half this block currently has falafel breath." also met a 50 some odd year old Albanian dude in Little Italy who claimed he was the 2nd best three point shooter of all time, just behind Drazen Petrovic and just ahead of Larry Bird. Claimed he was more consistent from the baseline than Bird. Consistently could hit 9 of 10, but 10 of 10 from baseline.
A lot of the bars there have their trash collection just on the side of the street. So you'll be walking down the street and see about 500 trash bags lined up. Me and threesheets were drinking about 3 am after the fight at a place called The Playwright, and this dude coming down the street stumbled and fell directly into the pile of trash bags, and passed out. The bouncer at the playwright said "happens every night. Just let him be."
MANILA, Philippines - WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao said the other day his much-awaited showdown with WBC titlist Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 80 to 90 percent sure to take place on May 5 next year and only a few more details are being ironed out before contracts are finalized.
Neither the venue nor the purses was disclosed by Pacquiao who said it was a blessing in disguise that his recent win over Juan Manuel Marquez was close because Mayweather probably wouldn’t have agreed to face him if the fight was one-sided in his favor.
Pacquiao said a sharing of the fight revenues was under discussion but implied a 50-50 split. Mayweather was the world’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter until he quit the ring and was succeeded by Pacquiao. Mayweather has since returned to action and is trying to reclaim the prestigious honor. Both are welterweight champions with Pacquiao recognized by the WBO and Mayweather by the WBC, making their duel a unification match.
Pacquiao broke the news during a dinner he hosted for Filipino print journalists at the Harbour View Restaurant, Luneta, last Monday. He even checked the 2012 calendar on his phone to confirm if May 5 – the Cinco de Mayo holiday in Mexico – fell on a Saturday. The date conveniently is on a Saturday so it will be shown live in Manila on Sunday morning. The fight will likely be staged in Las Vegas.
As for Mayweather’s demand for Olympic-style drug testing, Pacquiao said it was no longer an issue. The fighters will agree to drug-testing procedures stipulated by the governing state athletic commission.
Pacquiao said he won’t back down from fighting anybody “if the price is right” and even mentioned the possibility of a rematch with WBC superwelterweight champion Miguel Cotto who stopped Mexico’s Antonio Margarito in New York City last weekend. Both Cotto and Margarito have lost to Pacquiao. Margarito suffered a fractured orbital bone in bowing to Pacquiao on points last year and his damaged eye was battered repeatedly by Cotto in their recent brawl. Margarito has been advised to seriously consider retirement.
It will be recalled that in 2008, Pacquiao won a close split decision over Marquez who insisted he was robbed. Pacquiao went on to beat David Diaz, Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Margarito, Sugar Shane Mosley and Marquez in that order to solidify his status as the world’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter. The same pattern is expected from Pacquiao coming off another tight win over Marquez. Experts predict he will bounce back with a bang.
WBO flyweight champion Brian Viloria’s chief second Ruben Gomez, who was Pacquiao’s cutman in his early US fights, said Mayweather is hard to hit but predicted the Filipino to win. “Mayweather isn’t heavy-handed,” said Gomez. “He uses his shoulder to limit what his opponent can hit. He’s a counterpuncher like Marquez but I think Manny can break down his style with his speed and power.”
Gomez, an American of Mexican descent, said there was no doubt in his mind that Pacquiao beat Marquez in their third fight. “There would’ve been no fight if Manny wasn’t aggressive,” he said. “Manny made that fight and should be given credit for it. To be honest, I was shocked to see Marquez so big and so strong. Sure, it was close like those three fights between Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton. Styles make fights and every time Manny and Marquez fight, you’ll end up with a close decision. That’s just how it is in boxing.”
Pacquiao said he will join the TV broadcast panel as a commentator to work Viloria’s title defense against Mexico’s Giovani Segura at the Ynares Sports Center, Pasig, this Sunday morning.
“Segura’s a dangerous opponent and a very hard puncher,” said Pacquiao. “But Viloria has a lot of skills. I expect Viloria to win but he’s got to fight with a lot of heart because Segura’s the kind of fighter who’ll just keep charging in until he’s stopped.”
from threesheets' phone, pics from our seat before the fight
damn...just rewatched the fight on HBO. That was a great ass whipping. Cotto landed 43 percent of all punches.
I'm not going to say Cotto is the best or anything. That wouldn't be true.
I am biased. He is my favorite modern boxer. The dude is a great champion. One legit lopsided loss to a guy who is one of the best ever. But he hasn't ducked anyone, he's revenged one of his two losses. That's what boxing is all about. Lose, and get up, and fight again. Don't cheat the game, and give it everything you got, and put on a show. I think Cotto has done that. And if it works out that he is remembered as great but not as good as Pac Man or Mayweather, then so be it. I still love that $#@!.
undercard on hbo starting for Khan - Peterson fight. Be interesting to see where Khan goes after this, assuming a win
goddamn..heavyweight seth mitchell (former Michigan State football player) just straight $#@!ed up Ibragimov
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USA might have a legitimate heavyweight, Mitchell was impressive
Dude hits, but his defense needs to mature. He may not be given time to mature. As Merchant said, I'm intrigued enough to keep watching.
probably just booing something in the background. Maybe De La
That's what I figured, thought it possibly could've been a mayweather backlash
be interesting. Ortiz put Peterson down twice in the third. But Peterson fought back for a draw
Damn, Khan's colors are $#@!ing bright.
Khan is $#@!ing fast
not sure about that slip
yeah, good action. That 2nd round was nice.
Use the jab, Lamont
3rd even better
Khan knows he's got his hands full
This Khan-Peterson fight's shaping up to be a pretty good one...
damn that was nice. Good body shots from Lamont
Khan's corner is a little more professional than Peterson's.
Nice adjustments by Khan in the 5th
Lederman is fired up.
That was a $#@!ing WEAK point deduction.
with the bs deduction plus the hometown advantage, Khan might have to win all 4 rounds, or at least tell himself that he does
This ref needs to get the $#@! out of the way, he's been caught too close multiple times.
what a war
Another $#@!ing point!! Racist mother $#@!er.
Khan still deserves the decision, despite the deductions
Peterson deserves tons of respect
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