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Same story all over
Not quite all over, but farily ubiquitous. There were some places where delegate selection was a battle.
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http://www.piercecountyherald.com/ev...icle/id/44707/Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex) continued to display strong support among Minnesota Republicans as his Presidential campaign won more delegate slots at Congressional District conventions held Saturday across the state.
Paul's campaign swept all the delegate and alternate slots in Congressional District No. 2, which south metro suburbs and CD 4 which is St. Paul, Ramsey County and the east metro. Paul's forces also won two delegate slots each in CD 1, which is southern Minnesota and CD 8 which is northern Minnesota.
All the CD conventions have conclude and Paul has won 20 out of the 24 delegate slots at stake and nearly all of the alternates. Given that the composition of the delegations to the state convention, which is set for May 4-5 in St. Cloud, is similar to that of the CD conventions, there is a very good chance Rep. Paul will come away with the lion's share of delegates from Minnesota.
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Front page news:http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/04...-fight-to.htmlRon Paul backers will fight to the End
ARLINGTON -- Don't tell Ron Paul and his supporters that the race for the GOP presidential nomination is over.
They put Republicans in Texas and beyond on notice Saturday that they plan to take their campaign all the way to the national convention in August in Tampa, Fla.
Paul backers attended Republican Senate district conventions locally and statewide, making a push to gain more control of the party.
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I struggle with the Republican party. I have no problems trying to change it from within for Ron Paul but after that I don't see anyone who other than maybe Rand or Justin Amash in the Republican party worth fighting the establishment for. Four years from now when they try to trot out Paul Ryan or Chris Christie I'm out.Originally Posted by bernorange
Why? I realize that in the main parties its the process of finding the persons who suck the least, but I haven't spent all that much time on Paul Ryan.
At some point one has to confront the issue that you might actually have to be in the game to play it. What makes these two certain sell outs to the ultimate constitutional and fiscal destruction?
What I've been exposed to over the last 6 or so months is that at this level it's political theatre. The people show, scream real loud and then papa bear Republican comes in and says you get to have Mitt Romney but please stick around and stay in the party so we can indoctrinate with our bull$#@!.
Nothing will change my friend until there is a collapse. Honestly I love Ron but I don't think he could do much at this point either. He would prevent WWIII which is enough for anyone to support him but we're too far gone. It's all bread and circuses until the dollar collapse happens.
I think bozo has it right that the most important thing is to be active locally though. The federal government is a farce and a fraud. When it does come down and the natural order of things is restored to communities it will be important to have liberty minded individuals active within those communities.
not sure if this has already been posted:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/2...all-in-austin/
Presidential candidate Ron Paul will speak at a town hall meeting on the University of Texas at Austin
LBJ Library Lawn on Thursday, April 26th at 7:00 p.m. Central.
Interesting anecdote that I'd thought I'd share as well regarding this one. During the debate a former Soviet Union citizen got up in spoke in favor of the amendment. He stated that he saw what hyper-interventionism and a military state led to in the Soviet Union and he sees the same thing beginning here. He also said that if you're neighbor scares you that you don't burn down his house. You get better locks and buy a gun and learn how to use it. It was funny listening to him say that in broken English. /csb
bern started a thread: http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/show...ustin-April-26
We're taking Iowa. Hopefully the GOP crooks in Alaska and other states will be stopped so they don't steal it from Ron in those states.
Ron Paul backers sweep into GOP party roles in Iowa
A rising tide of Republicans who share Ron Paul’s philosophy of limited government are flooding into GOP party roles in Iowa.
Like the anti-abortion movement and tea partiers that made in-roads into GOP politics here in recent years, Paul loyalists want to send a message to party leaders, the governor, the state legislature and the nation, they said Saturday.
Six of the new Iowa GOP state central committee members elected Saturday have publicly expressed support for Paul, a libertarian-leaning presidential candidate: Joel Kurtinitis, Kris Thiessen, Dave Cushman, Jeff Shipley, John Kabitzke and Marcus Fedler. Two more have close ties.
“Ron Paul’s display of strength is to encourage their followers to say, ‘We have the numbers. Join us and we can accomplish even more,’” said Gopal Krishna, a popular longtime central committee member who has declined to reveal his caucus vote. “Because once they’re a force to be reckoned with, everybody starts to cater to them.”
The Republican delegates at the four GOP district conventions also elected two people who backed Rick Santorum to the 18-member board that governs the Republican Party of Iowa.
Two others were Michele Bachmann campaign workers, and one caucused for Newt Gingrich. Four new state central committee members have kept their presidential candidate preferences private. One didn’t caucus because he was tied up with state party business on caucus night.
Two more new central committee members have had close relationships with the Paul movement. Tony Krebsbach was a county coordinator for Campaign for Liberty, a group Paul founded. And when Chad Steenhoek was running for the Iowa House in 2010, the Campaign for Liberty PAC gave him a donation and Paul spoke on his behalf. Steenhoek said Saturday he caucused for Gingrich. He doesn’t subscribe to a Ron Paul philosophy so much as a Republican philosophy of limited government and individual rights, he said.
The growing Paul faction in leadership positions at the Republican Party of Iowa – including the new chairman, A.J. Spiker, who was the Paul campaign’s Iowa vice chairman and can break ties in central committee votes – has created tension with Iowa Republicans who don’t share their affection for the Texas congressman or share some of his views.
Kurtinitis, a Paul backer elected to the central committee Saturday, said he’s aware of the nervousness.
“I think it’s uncertainty. ‘They don’t have a long history in politics. They’re not predictable,’” said Kurtinitis, 27, a born-again Christian who was homeschooled as a youth.
“I can understand some hesitation,” he added. “We don’t know what direction this is going to take us as a party. But we need to be careful not to miss this opportunity because of that hesitation, that fear.”
Agree or disagree with Paul, he draws fresh faces into political activism in Iowa, including younger people, independents and Democrats.
“Anyone who’s followed the Ron Paul movement knows it’s about ideals, not a person,” Kurtinitis said. “It’s free enterprise, individual liberty, a government that’s constitutionally limited.”
For some, Saturday’s push wasn’t as much about Iowa as it was about the national effort for Paul.
Several Paul loyalists said they harbor hope for getting Paul nominated at the national convention in Tampa in late August.
In order to do that, Paul must have a majority of support from at least five state delegations. With states like North Dakota, Minnesota and others on track, his supporters could then attempt to nominate him from the floor.
Iowa’s 28 delegates are all “unbound,” meaning they can individually decide which presidential candidate to support. To stop Paul supporters from controlling the Iowa delegation, Romney backers in Iowa said they will likely focus on teaming up with Christian conservatives here.
Paul loyalists did well in getting their supporters onto the GOP’s “state nomination committee,” which will nominate Iowa’s 13 at-large national delegates. Another 12 district delegates will be selected June 15. The GOP chairman and Iowa’s two Republican National Committee members are also delegates.
Only one woman was elected to the state central committee Saturday. That makes just two women on the board including Iowa’s Republican National Committeewoman, Kim Lehman.
Here are the eight people the GOP convention delegates named to the state nominating committee:
1st District:
Roger Kistler, who said in December he was a Ron Paul backer
Carol Johnson, whose Facebook page shows support for Ron Paul
2nd District:
Dusty Juhl, who is listed as an interim state coordinator for Campaign for Liberty, an organization founded by Ron Paul
David Haas
3rd District:
Monte Shaw, a state central committee member who didn’t seek re-election Saturday
Nancy Bowery, who was an interim county coordinator for Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty
4th District:
Karen Fesler, a Rick Santorum backer
Christine Graber
Here are the winners of the races for Iowa GOP state central committee:
1st District:
Dave Cushman of Dubuque County, a Ron Paul backer
Loras Schulte of Benton County, a Rick Santorum backer
Tony Krebsbach of Mitchell County, who was a county coordinator for Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty
David Chung of Linn County, who isn’t publicly revealing his caucus vote
2nd District:
(Two incumbents lost re-election: Trudy Caviness and John Ortega. The third incumbent, Emily Lofgren, did not run again)
Jeff Shipley of Jefferson County, a Ron Paul backer
Marcus Fedler of Washington County, a Ron Paul supporter
Mark Doland of Mahaska County, who worked for Michele Bachmann’s campaign
Bob Anderson of Johnson County, who remained neutral in the GOP caucuses because he’s the county party chairman
3rd District:
(Incumbents Monte Shaw and David Fischer did not seek re-election.)
Joel Kurtinitis of Polk County, a Ron Paul supporter
John Kabitzke of Warren County, a Ron Paul backer
Gopal Krishna of Polk County, who is a current state central committee member and has declined to say who he caucused for
Wes Enos of Polk County, who is a current committee member and worked for the Bachmann campaign
4th District
(Incumbent Craig Williams and James Mills lost their races for re-election. Drew Ivers didn’t seek re-election.)
Kris Thiessen of Clay County, a Ron Paul backer
Tim Moran of Woodbury County, a current central committee member who didn’t caucus this year but worked for Mitt Romney campaign in the past
Jamie Johnson of Webster County, a Rick Santorum supporter
Chad Steenhoek of Story County, who caucused for Newt Gingrich.
DESPITE DOWNPOUR RON PAUL DRAWS 4,300-PLUS TO RALLY ON INDEPENDENCE MALL IN PHILADELPHIA
LAKE JACKSON, Texas – 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul drew a remarkable 4,300-plus voters to a major campaign rally he held on the Independence Mall in Philadelphia despite poor weather conditions that would have kept supporters of other candidates away.
Event organizers noted that, despite the inclement weather, supporters and undecided voters greeted the 12-term Congressman from Texas with the characteristic enthusiasm for which his crowds are known. It had rained all day and with chilly temperatures to boot, many attendees responded that they were cold, uncomfortable, and feeling poorly. And yet, the people persevered for Paul.
Also noteworthy is that the campaign event took place in the footsteps of America’s modern founders, who conceptualized, advocated for, and created a modest federal government of the kind Ron Paul has been promoting for more than three decades.
Ron Paul’s campaign rally took place on the lawn at the Independence Mall Visitors Center, located at 1 North Independence Mall West (b/t Market and Arch Streets), Philadelphia, PA 19106. The rally commenced at 1:00 p.m. ET, while Congressman Paul addressed the crowd at around 2:30 p.m. Dr. Paul discussed his platform of constitutionally-limited government, the restoration of our civil and economic liberties, and provisions of his path-breaking ‘Plan to Restore America.’ In addition to keynote speaker Ron Paul, featured speakers included Paul backers Pennsylvania State Senator Mike Folmer (R-Lebanon) and former CIA officer and Bin Laden Unit leader Michael Scheuer, both of whom have endorsed him for the presidency.
A photograph of Ron Paul’s Philadelphia campaign rally with 4,300-plus people on Independence Mall follows.
^^^^ Ron's campaign tweeted the photo above with the comment: "Let’s see Mitt Romney inspire this kind of passion and devotion. Even on a sunny day."
Ron Paul hosting CNBC Squawk Box tomorrow morning.
Definitely looking forward to that.
This is a pissed off Marine.
^Shared on FB. great video
http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/0...ey-in-a-panic/
Ron Paul Wins in Iowa and Minnesota, Romney in a Panic
By Doug Wead
Ron Paul supporters surged to victory in yesterday’s Minnesota and Iowa district conventions, dominating the process and picking up more delegates to the Republican National Convention. As reported last week, a number of Romney Hawks are now deeply concerned that Ron Paul has already laid the groundwork for similar success in six more caucus states. Yesterday’s results will only increase their influence inside the Romney camp.
Romney advisers are concerned that the rising total of Ron Paul delegates will lead to an unmanageable RNC. Some observers felt that the 1992 convention hurt an incumbent president George H. W. Bush and was a factor in his loss to Bill Clinton.
In most states, victories at the district conventions decide who will move onto the state conventions where most of the delegates to the Republican National Convention in Tampa will be selected.
The rules in Minnesota are slightly different and some of those final delegates were actually selected at scattered district conventions yesterday. Reports from our own Marianne Stebbins in Minnesota show that Ron Paul now has 20 out of the 24 delegates already chosen to represent the state at the Republican National Convention in Tampa and the campaign is poised to do just as good at the upcoming state convention, May 18-19, when the final 13 will be chosen.
In Iowa, Jennifer Jacobs, a reporter for the Des Moines Resister, broke into open what had been our little secret, namely, the takeover of the GOP in Iowa. “A rising tide of Republicans who share Ron Paul’s philosophy of limited government are flooding into GOP party roles in Iowa,” Jennifer wrote, reporting on yesterdays Iowa district conventions.
Actually, it is a phenomenon seen all across the country. It is viewed by many political observers as the biggest transformation of the Republican Party since 1988, when evangelical Christians joined the process and dominated state positions for a whole generation.
While the Iowa Ron Paul campaign is keeping its cards close to the vest, we all got a sneak peak from an the Des Moines Register story which reported that six of the new Iowa GOP state central committee members elected Saturday have publicly expressed support for Ron Paul. Joes Kurtinitis, Kris Thiessen, Dave Cushman, Jeff Shipley, John Kabitzke and Marcus Fedler. “Two more,” Jennifer Jacobs reports, “have close ties.” The new state chairman is also a Ron Paul supporter, who served as a co-chairman for the congressman’s Iowa state organization.
The Iowa state GOP convention is set for Jun 16, 2012.
Meanwhile, the sleepy New York Times has posted for five months and still posts, even today, that the total delegate count for Ron Paul in Iowa is one. They say that the total delegate count for Ron Paul in Minnesota is nine. In fact, Ron Paul supporters will now dominate both state conventions. And the same trend is ongoing in states across the country.
Join the discussion: http://www.facebook.com/DougWeadOfficial
What will it be, America?
Ron Paul hosting CNBC's Squawk Box on Monday morning April 23rd
"Witness the Power of an Idea"
Love the Doug Wead piece and the marine from Missouri.
Am hoping Dr. Paul makes a stop in Houston soon (hopefully, while I am in town!).
Hoffheinz at UH on Friday
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/2...ton-town-hall/
Last edited by smoky b; 04-23-2012 at 11:17 AM.
From Ron Paul 2012 on FB:
Total delegates from Congressional districts in Minnesota.
CD1: 2 Paul, 1 Romney
CD2: 3 Paul
CD3: 3 Paul
CD4: 3 Paul
CD5: 3 Paul
CD6: 3 Paul
CD7: 1 Paul, 2 Santorum
CD8: 2 Paul, 1 unknown
Total:
Paul: 20
Santorum: 2
Romney: 1
I think this is happening in more states than Minnesota.
Here's the relevant Ron portion on CNBC this morning:
Rachel Maddow reports that Ron won Minnesota and Iowa.
And this had to make Fox News cringe to report it.
Last edited by maninblack; 04-23-2012 at 10:29 PM.
the rest of the country needs to get their popcorn ready for Tampa
just a cool pic of Ron autographing a truck with spray paint
http://www.dailypaul.com/228489/hey-...truck#comments
^^^^ that's awesome!
A compilation of his discussions on CNBC (MIB posted the first segment). I enjoyed his take-down of Liesman and the Fed stooge.
He was on the ward how today and did quite qell
do they archive that?
A friend texted me about Ron being on Jeff Ward's show and I tuned in when they were discussing the Drug War. Jeff Ward brought up the issue of gay marriage and mentioned it was something Newt was using in N. Carolina. Ron pretty much said that the fed should stay out of the marriage business. He also said that he didn't believe gay marriage was even worth discussing since we are in over our heads financially as a nation and their were so many other pressing issues for Americans. They talked about SS and that with our foreign policy and other entitlements/excessive spending that their is no way to finance it. Americans should have the option to opt out.
Although I know Jeff is a RP supporter, his cynicism pisses me off. He knows Ron Paul's solutions are the direction we need to go in, but has no faith in the general public to understand. He always says Ron Paul will not win and says that many feel the same way about Ron and say "I like Ron here, here, here, and here, but there's this one thing...."
As a RP supporter I know we need to aim for Ending the Fed, but realize that competing currencies would help and would be a compromise. It's the debate about these systemic issues that is important; such as our ridiculous spending liabilities associated with SS/medicare/caid, foreign military operations, size of government, regulation, monetary policy etc.
There's also the swindling politician factor.....
Last edited by American Swindle; 04-24-2012 at 09:52 PM.
this. ron paul has some issues that are out there for some but i personally believe he needs to be more vocal in stating that he isn't interested in making these issues a big deal in his presidency. he wants to focus on foreign policy and our deficit first, everything else takes a back seat.
Anyone have any trusted sites or a "true" count of delegates?
The one I used to have gave up and is just using the AP projection which is wrong.
I don't have a source for hard numbers, but even the most optimistic analysis that I've seen make it look like Romney is going to reach 1,144 now. The GOP has picked their puppet.
Ron dominating in Philly
Spain for Ron Paul
I see that RP is stopping in Austin and Houston. What about Dallas? (sorry if this has been mentioned)
insurance?? really?
Ron Paul's being streamed live right now outside the LBJ Memorial wearing burnt orange.
http://freedombroadcastingnetwork.co...ustin-texas-2/
Ron is rolling
Friend of mine taped an interview with him for Channel 8.
Pic from El Paso
Jon Stewart with a Ron Paul shout out.
Last edited by maninblack; 04-26-2012 at 07:50 PM.
Ron Paul's Torchbearers
Karen Kwiatkowski, a Republican candidate for Congress in Virginia, rarely passes up an opportunity to scold Washington politicians about runaway defense spending, which she says is an egregious waste of taxpayer dollars that does little to make Americans safer. Halfway across the country, Tisha Casida, a Colorado Independent, says she’ll push to end the drug war and legalize marijuana if she’s elected to the House. In Florida, Calen Fretts, a Libertarian seeking to unseat a veteran Republican congressman, promises that if he’s elected he’ll begin working to abolish the U.S. Federal Reserve. “As people increase the size and scope of government,” Fretts says, “there’s got to be a few of us to resist it.”
These candidates have two things in common: All are long shots seeking office for the first time. And all were inspired to run by the same man—Ron Paul.
After 12 terms in the House, Paul, who is 76, says he’ll retire at year’s end. Though he gamely insists he can still defeat Mitt Romney and capture the Republican nomination, his presidential runs have always been about forcing other candidates, and the public, to pay attention to his libertarian arguments for eliminating most taxes, closing federal agencies, bringing U.S. troops home from overseas, legalizing drugs, outlawing official secrecy, dismantling the Fed, returning to the gold standard, and generally getting the government to get out of the way.
If forcing his don’t-tread-on-me, minimalist philosophy into the mainstream is the benchmark, Paul can claim victory and return to Texas a happy man. The professional political class may ridicule him as an eccentric kook leading a cantankerous army of potheads who invade chat rooms with ALLCAPS rants about government overreach. (And no doubt there’s something to that—the most worshipful Paul evangelists can be hard to stomach.) But listening to his rivals in the GOP debates demand that the Fed be audited and the Departments of Energy and Education be shuttered, it’s clear that many of Paul’s positions, once considered extreme, are now routine Republican talking points—and that his influence over conservative politics greatly outweighs his low poll rankings and back-of-the-pack primary returns. “I believe our time has come,” says Paul, who quickly tempers this uncharacteristic display of optimism. “It’s still going to be a knock-down dragged-out fight.”
Paul leaves behind a small army of brawlers itching to take up the battle in his name. This election year, at least 65 of his supporters are campaigning for local, state, or national office in 23 states. They join more than a dozen Paul acolytes who won elections in 2010, including GOP Representative Justin Amash of Michigan, who is seeking a second term—not to mention Paul’s son Rand, who was elected to the Senate as a Republican in Kentucky.
Other Paul followers and former aides have maneuvered their way into Republican Party leadership positions in Nevada, Iowa, Nebraska, Texas, and Maine, where they are attempting to rewrite party platforms and keep establishment Republicans from giving Paul’s 70-plus primary delegates to Mitt Romney. Usually, “when a candidate drops out, the followers go too,” says Aaron Libby, a 29-year-old Maine blueberry farmer and Paul die-hard who was elected to the state legislature in 2010. “They were following a candidate; we are following a movement.”
This kind of fervor is common among Paul candidates, many of whom date their interest in politics to the moment they first saw him speak. Kwiatkowski, a 51-year-old cattle farmer and retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, was raised by Goldwater Republicans. “I voted for Reagan,” she says. “But he grew government, he didn’t reduce it.” Disillusioned, Kwiatkowski left the GOP. Then, in 2003, she read about Paul’s staunch opposition to the Iraq War—which she thought was an irresponsible use of troops and money—and his shrink-the-government philosophy. She was hooked, and started attending Paul rallies. Eventually, she rejoined the Republican Party. “I came back because Ron Paul is a Republican,” she says. “If he became independent or a libertarian, I would follow.”
Kwiatkowski has nothing good to say about Mitt Romney—“a big government socialist running as a Republican”—and feels the same about her own GOP congressman, nine-term incumbent Bob Goodlatte, whom she faults for voting to raise the debt ceiling, among a litany of other grievances. Instead of grousing about it, she decided to challenge him in the primary. She’s unconcerned that she has almost no chance of unseating him. The point is to show voters that mainstream Republicans have lost sight of what the party once stood for. “People are really responsive to the ideas,” she says. “They don’t care if they come from Karen Kwiatkowski, Ron Paul, or Thomas Jefferson.”
Other Paul-inspired candidates tell similar stories of their political awakening. Casida, a 30-year-old graphic designer running as an Independent in a sprawling Colorado district, says she had little interest in becoming a politician until 2008, when she read End the Fed, perhaps Paul’s best-known manifesto. “It opened my eyes,” she says. She read everything she could about him and went to see Paul speak. Casida decided to run for office herself after she tried to start a farmer’s market but discovered it would mean paying thousands of dollars in fees—evidence, she says, of government run amok.
“So many of our problems stem from unconstitutional acts at the federal level,” she says. Casida has little chance of defeating the Republican incumbent Scott Tipton. She’ll be outspent by hundreds of thousands of dollars, though she’s managed to raise $20,000, much of it from Paul supporters around the country.
The candidates quote liberally from Paul on their websites and in their speeches. Few receive his personal endorsement—he won’t back one Republican running to unseat another, and tends to think candidates should make it on their own. One thing the Paul hopefuls don’t try to emulate: their mentor’s rambling, circular sentences and slide-whistle speaking voice. “There are many examples in Ron Paul’s career where he didn’t phrase things in the best way he could,” says Amash, diplomatically. “If he’s in a debate, he might stray from answering the direct point of the question. … But he’s Ron Paul.” Jim Forsythe, a Paul protégé who won a seat in New Hampshire’s legislature in 2010 and is seeking a second term this year, says he tries to distill Paul’s complex ideas for voters. “He’ll give an answer that I agree with and people cringe,” Forsythe says. “I think, how could I say that differently?” Rand Paul provides a model. Instead of demanding, like his father, that marijuana be legalized, he has sponsored a bill that would end minimum mandatory sentencing for pot convictions. The difference, Rand Paul says, is one “of degrees.”
To encourage more Paul followers to enter the arena, Gigi Bowman, a Long Island real estate agent, started LibertyCandidates.com, which runs meet-ups for Paul supporters and candidates and offers advice on running for office. It may take years for some of the greener hopefuls to get their acts together. “Eventually,” she says, “they’ll win seats.”
Paul himself already seems to be looking toward the exit. “I think it’s sort of human nature to key around one person who is the spokesman,” he says. “But I think it’s much bigger than that. I don’t think that what we are doing is going to go away, regardless of what happens in the election. An army can’t stop an idea whose time has come.”
The bottom line: At least 65 people, inspired by Ron Paul to enter politics, are running for local, state, and national office in 23 states.
Ben Swann has dominated this election cycle.
He did Fort Worth about a week or two ago.
The Freedom movement is here to stay after Ron Paul. It's in French but you can click and see subtitles.
Pics from the twittersphere from Austin. Maybe 4k?
That is $#@!ing awesome
He had me at hello. His message will either force the GOP to change its tone or split off a third party...
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