Personally- I think the issue is dumb, goofy, and a waste of time...
Politically- I think it is dumber, goofier, and a bigger waste of time...
Isn't there a difference between negro and African though? I seem to recall an Arrested Development song, "And that's the story ya'll, about a black man, actin' like a negro, gettin' stomped by an African. I said I....am every day people (with a forged birth certificate)."
I don't know. I listen to Blue Grass.
Please enlighten us.It was about so much more . . . the birther issue just gave them something to latch onto.
hey peckerhead THE LONG FORM IS $#@!ING REQUIRED FOR A PASSPORT YOU $#@!ING IGNORANT MORON. My wife and I recently applied for a passport, I had a certified long form Texas birth cert, my wife had a certified short form Texas birth cert. The passport office accepted both and sent them to the State Dept. About a month later my passport and passport card came in the mail, and my wife got a letter from the State Department stating that the short form birth cert WAS NOT SUFFICIENT to issue a passport, please submit a long form certificate if she wanted a passport.
you also must submit a drivers license or government or military photo id.
I am seriously amazed that Dolemite has managed to sound even dumber on this topic now that the long form has been released. I mean, I imagined it might happen, but I never believed it actually would.
Then he argues that Obama is responsible for the idiot military officer that got his ass in a ringer because he acted out on a retarded belief in this joke of a conspiracy theory. I would love to see Dolemite demand his supervisor produce the supervisor's employment contract that validates his claim to authority over Dolemite. Then quit and demand severance when the supervisor says "$#@! off, Dolemite." HOW DARE THAT SUPERVISOR ALLOW DOLEMITE TO GO WITHOUT WAGES WHEN HE COULD HAVE JUST SHOWN HIM THE CONTRACT?!?!?!?
this one that barry o released has less info on it than the short form one my wife submitted and would be rejected by the state dept for a passport.
so $#@! off and die mr pete peckerhead ignorant $#@!waffle mother$#@! communist ignorant basters goat rapist.
So, what's next? After-Birthers?
and what about this one?
got you you $#@!ing Obama supporters!
try to deny that $#@!.
Well there is a silver lining to this thread.
At least we can now take some tupperware, package up all this uneaten crow, and send it to the starving children in Obama's birth place, Kenya...
Funny, but I would guess "Forgery-ers"So, what's next? After-Birthers?
WELL, how do you delusional Obama supporters that think Obama is human refute THIS?!
he's OBVIOUSLY HALF human and half VEGETATION!
and since we KNOW that vegetation comes from seeds, half of him WAS NOT BORN, despite this jacked up forgery of a long term "birth" certificate, he is still not eligible to be potus. vegetation CAN NOT HOLD OFFICE in the US.
MrPhlegm, that isn't entirely true. Some short form certificates are acceptable and some aren't.
Could one of you guys who's got a lot of weaponry take out Donald Trump for me?
And not that this really matters, because you're crazy, and you're Phlegm, but you don't even need a birth certificate to apply for a passport:
Secondary evidence of birth in the US(b) Secondary evidence of birth in the United States. If the applicant cannot submit a birth certificate that meets the requirement of paragraph (a) of this section, he or she must submit secondary evidence sufficient to establish to the satisfaction of the Department that he or she was born in the United States. Secondary evidence includes but is not limited to hospital birth certificates, baptismal certificates, medical and school records, certificates of circumcision, other documentary evidence created shortly after birth but generally not more than 5 years after birth, and/or affidavits of persons having personal knowledge of the facts of the birth.
Still, there has been only one bonifide native born American POTUS.
world nut daily is still giving spank material to the Dolemite's of the world
Joseph Farah, the founder and chief executive
officer of World Net Daily, a conspiracy-
mongering website with its own publishing
arm, also said he has no intention of standing
down despite the White House’s release of the
so-called long form birth certificate showing
that Obama was born in the state of Hawaii on
Aug. 4, 1961, as he always has said.
“I’m not apologizing for nothing,” a defiant
Farah said in a telephone interview with NBC
News, insisting there are still questions about
Obama’s citizenship aside from where he was
The comments by Farah underscore Obama’s
observation Wednesday that hard-core
birthers are unlikely to be persuaded by any
evidence, no matter how compelling. “I know that there’s going to be a segment of people
for which, no matter what we put out, this
issue will not be put to rest,” Obama said at a
White House press event to release the birth
Farah, who still believes there was foul play
associated with the death of Clinton White
House lawyer Vince Foster, would seem to be
a perfect example. His comments during a
lengthy telephone interview with NBC also
provide new insights into how the “birther”
issue got traction in the first place – and how
some of the president’s most strident critics
plan to continue to hammer away at the issue,
in part by switching the discussion to
questioning Obama’s “citizenship” rather than
his birth in the United States.
In fact, Farah said, Obama’s citizenship, not
his birth, is actually the principal theme of
World Net Daily’s upcoming book by Jerome
Corsi titled, “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The
Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be
President.” Corsi first garnered headlines in
2004 as one of the architects of the so-called
“Swift Boat” attacks on John Kerry’s war
Slated to be published May 17, Corsi ‘s book
on Obama shot to the top of Amazon’s book
rankings last week after being featured on the
Drudge Report. Farah said there have already
been 150,000 advance orders for the book a
nd he ultimately expects to print between
500,000 and 1 million copies, figures that
would land it near the top of the New York
Times best seller list. (As of Wednesday
afternoon, the book was ranked 29th on Amazon’s list of top 100 books, and No. 1
among books about government.)
Farah said he and Corsi also have plotted a
major publicity campaign for the book that will
start on May 15, with exclusive interviews on
Fox News host Sean Hannity’s radio and TV
show. (Corsi himself is refusing any interviews
until then, according to a spokesman. He did
not respond to an email request for comment
from NBC News.)
Farah acknowledged that the book’s title may
be “unfortunate” in light of Wednesday’s
release of Obama’s birth certificate, even while
he insisted the document must still be more
fully analyzed before he accepts it as
authentic. “I think it will take us a little while to
examine this and determine if it’s legitimate,”
he said about the birth certificate, which was
released by the White House along with a letter
from the director of Hawaii’s Health
Department certifying its legitimacy.
Even if it is authentic, Farah said the real issue
is that Obama is still not eligible to be
president because his father was Kenyan and
his adopted father was Indonesian, making
him a potential “dual citizen” of two separate
foreign countries. (Farah supplied no evidence
to support his contention that Obama ever
held “dual citizenship.” Nor did he explain why
it would make any difference, given Obama’s
birth to an American mother on U.S. soil,
which would meet the U.S. Constitution’s
requirement that he be a “natural-born
know for some people this settles the
issue,” Farah said of the birth certificate. “It’s
up to us to persuade people that there’s a lot
more to this issue than the Hawaiian birth.”
'A totally wacky argument'
Asked about Farah's contention, Harvard Law
School Professor Laurence Tribe said by email
that this is "a totally wacky argument, without
any conceivable merit. ... The 14th amendment
unambiguously and expressly confers U.S.
citizenship on everyone ‘born . . . in the United
States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’
This means that Barack Obama was a U.S.
citizen at birth. independent of the citizenship
or age of either or both of his biological or
adoptive parents. ... This birther thing is a
moving target, rather like the creatures in the
“Night of the Living Dead.” Driving a stake
through its heart seems incapable of killing it.")
Farah’s commitment to fueling the birther
issue dates back to the 2008 presidentialbirther issue. Farah said Trump was one of the
“very few” people who were provided a pre-
publication copy of the book under a non-
Read more reporting by Michael Isikoff in
'The Isikoff Files'
Michael Cohen, a top aide to Trump, told NBC
Wednesday that he signed the non-disclosure
agreement for the book, but that he doesn’t
recall actually receiving it. Still, Cohen
acknowledged that “Jerome Corsi had reached
out to Mr. Trump to explain certain facts that
are in his book” and that the two had talked
“on a handful of occasions.” Cohen also said
he had consulted with Corsi on numerous
Asked if he believes that he and Trump were
supplied with misinformation about Obama’s
birth by Corsi, Cohen dismissed the question
and echoed the public comments made earlier
Wednesday by his boss: “Mr. Trump was
successful in getting (Obama) to put out his
birth certificate,” something nobody else had
succeeded in doing.
Farah also took credit for Wednesday’s
disclosure, saying there is “no question” that
Corsi’s forthcoming book led the White House
to release the document. “"They knew (the
book) was coming," he said.
i'm disappointed in the physical length of the 'long form' as I was expecting at least a 8" x 14" or 11"x17".
Corsi is just going to change the title to, $#@! $#@! $#@!! or, in FOXNews style, $#@! $#@! $#@!?
It will sell tens of thousands of copies. Free copy of The Turner Diaries bundled with it.
For those saying this issue is unimportant, you are dead wrong. This issue is vital. Not because of the birth certificate, but because of what it tells us about the values of our nation. On no other single issue can you more accurately read the, for lack of a better word, soul of a voter.
1) Name of Parents -- Check
2) Name of Applicant -- Check
3) Date of Birth -- Check
4) Place of Birth -- Check (before you say it, does not require hospital name)
5) Raised, embossed seal -- Check (it's on the back per photos that were circulated in 2008)
6) Registrars Signature -- Check (also on the back)
7) The date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office (must be within one year) -- Check
Checkmate. It's valid and can get a passport, as well as serve as proof in any walk of life outside birther $#@!wad land. And thanks for the neg rep you ignorant beligerent $#@!.
I don't care what his birth certificate says - he's still a Keynesian and always will be!
yeah, but 99.9% of the $#@!stains that still insist Obama wasn't born in HI despite mountains of evidence, have no problem believing in the existence of an invisible skydaddy, despite absolutely no evidence.
Sharp bunch, the birthers.
One side definitely does this $#@! more than the other. There's no rational way to deny that Republican politicians and kingmakers are way more into character assassination than Democratic politicians and kingmakers. This is undeniable.In politics, everything is fair game and both sides engage in this dumbassery....and don't go saying one side does it more...they both equally act like asses...
It makes no sense to say that both sides do X-bad-thing equally. Logically, it is impossible. It's a safe little logical fallacy meant to portray a sense of impartiality.
The Republican Party and its constituents are far more interested in the personal lives of their opponents than vice versa. It is in the nature of their belief systems.
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