Modern Warfare 3

[Fillmore Slim]

nah, I'm not great and I run a 1.27 K/D ratio in MW2 and had a 1.2 K/D ratioin MW1, a 1.6 in BlOps. like I said MW2 MP was fun for a bit, then everyone realized that ACR was a laser rifle and 5 guys would be sprinting around with akimbo 1887s. then every other map some guy was calling in an airstrike, chopper gunner and then a nuke... oh and I forgot the stupid lunging knife strike distance was way off, then add commando pro and tactical knife and you could knife someone 10feet away.

I only play Hardcore modes, usually headquarters but I still feel that MW2 was overpowered in too many ways and broken in others when compared to MW.

I played the heck out of MW2 MP, I had it 1000/1000 within a couple of weeks. the only games on 360 that I've logged more hours on are BF2:BC2, MW and Forza2. there is no way that I should be able to pick up the game 2 weeks ago, create an ACR loadout and managed to go 40+ on kills in 3 straight matches and manage to get 2 AC-130s called in... basically because the ACR auto-resets and I stacked my killstreaks with such ease.

how can you honestly argue that the MP wasn't borked with serious "holes" that could be constantly exploited(not hacked or cheated). not saying it wasn't fun for a good amount of time, but there were issues that constantly gave me scowl face.

Oh I don't disagree that there were glitches and cheats and cheaters and campers littered throughout the game. That's why I snapped it in half. But that doesn't mean I didn't have fun playing it until the end. I used to play a lot of group games with friends and other people I played with a lot on that game, they were usually money. And even when I jumped into a regular match against strangers, more often than not the cheaters/campers were never good enough to stop me. I hated headquarters unless it was my normal team. Either try to capture the headquarters repeatedly and continuously have bombs go off in your face while your teammates do nothing, or stand back and let the other team win but make sure you get those kills. Maybe you should have spent more time in the regular games. Headquarters sucked.

[crackamacgowski]

Don't get mad, play barebones.

[Speedtrucker]

meh, Hardcore is the way to go. I like headquarters just because it is a quicker pace that reflects the fast paced nature of CoDs mp gameplay.

I like going 70-40 in a round while only using shotties and pistols...

plus it gets rid of the crosshair and map and all that other help.

I worked QA for an old UT'99 mod called Infiltration which was realism based so I've always despised crosshairs and persistent maps or tells.

although I did like "WAR" in WaW, that was a fun gamemode.

[Jersey Man10]

nah, I'm not great and I run a 1.27 K/D ratio in MW2 and had a 1.2 K/D ratioin MW1, a 1.6 in BlOps. like I said MW2 MP was fun for a bit, then everyone realized that ACR was a laser rifle and 5 guys would be sprinting around with akimbo 1887s. then every other map some guy was calling in an airstrike, chopper gunner and then a nuke... oh and I forgot the stupid lunging knife strike distance was way off, then add commando pro and tactical knife and you could knife someone 10feet away.

I only play Hardcore modes, usually headquarters but I still feel that MW2 was overpowered in too many ways and broken in others when compared to MW.

I played the heck out of MW2 MP, I had it 1000/1000 within a couple of weeks. the only games on 360 that I've logged more hours on are BF2:BC2, MW and Forza2. there is no way that I should be able to pick up the game 2 weeks ago, create an ACR loadout and managed to go 40+ on kills in 3 straight matches and manage to get 2 AC-130s called in... basically because the ACR auto-resets and I stacked my killstreaks with such ease.

how can you honestly argue that the MP wasn't borked with serious "holes" that could be constantly exploited(not hacked or cheated). not saying it wasn't fun for a good amount of time, but there were issues that constantly gave me scowl face.

There's your problem. HC is such bull$#@! I don't even bother playing that mode. The rest of the game is great. The only problem right now is constant noob tubing and quickscoping $#@!s. Nothing an assault rifle can't handle.

[Speedtrucker]

There's your problem. HC is such bull$#@! I don't even bother playing that mode. The rest of the game is great. The only problem right now is constant noob tubing and quickscoping $#@!s. Nothing an assault rifle can't handle.

core drives me insane, I can't stand core. Hardcore was the only way I could play without wanting to kill some 12 yr old dolphin diving/ bunny hoping/10ft lunge knifer

its the only way I play this and BF2:BC2. maps and crosshairs also annoy me

[The_Reason]

There's your problem. HC is such bull$#@! I don't even bother playing that mode. The rest of the game is great. The only problem right now is constant noob tubing and quickscoping $#@!s. Nothing an assault rifle can't handle.

See this is where you are wrong...

enemies being able to take an entire magazine should not keep walking....

There are no crosshairs, ammo counters, or realtime maps in real life....

go play halo...

[crackamacgowski]

Hardcore search and headquarters and barebones are the only game types I play.

[Dixie Normous]

I'm back in the game. Started up MW2 this week. I still dominate.

[Jersey Man10]

See this is where you are wrong...

enemies being able to take an entire magazine should not keep walking....

There are no crosshairs, ammo counters, or realtime maps in real life....

go play halo...

$#@! halo.

[The_Reason]

$#@! halo.

My point exactly, core is halo light...

man up and play HC....

[huge]

what if you like to play both for different reasons?

[Speedtrucker]

what if you like to play both for different reasons?

so you are saying you swing both way huh? gay!

man up.

[Rissin]

nah, I'm not great and I run a 1.27 K/D ratio in MW2 and had a 1.2 K/D ratioin MW1, a 1.6 in BlOps. like I said MW2 MP was fun for a bit, then everyone realized that ACR was a laser rifle and 5 guys would be sprinting around with akimbo 1887s. then every other map some guy was calling in an airstrike, chopper gunner and then a nuke... oh and I forgot the stupid lunging knife strike distance was way off, then add commando pro and tactical knife and you could knife someone 10feet away.

lol, no. The basic knife lunge was pretty close to if not the exact same as call of duty 4. Commando did more than double the lunge range with the regular knife but you were an easy kill afterwards if the other team had an average player with vision on you. The tactical knife increased the speed of the lunge and the reload time of the knife when you had it out but decreased the lunge distance and the cone it could kill in. If you had both tactical knife and commando the lunge was basically the same as the regular knife(without commando) with a smaller killing cone and the advantages of the increased lunge speed and reload time.

Yes, the akimbo 1887 were over powered and were patched pretty early in the games life.

The ACR is a very good gun but it's not god mode like you make it out to be. I'd much rather use a 40 damage gun or an SMG with the same if not higher damage and increased mobility. Ok you only play hardcore where player health is 30 so the ACR probably is god mode there.

I only play Hardcore modes, usually headquarters but I still feel that MW2 was overpowered in too many ways and broken in others when compared to MW.

That's probably because the game was not designed around hardcore mode at all and if I remember correctly one of the devs said that they didn't even look into balancing anything for hardcore when making the game.

I played the heck out of MW2 MP, I had it 1000/1000 within a couple of weeks. the only games on 360 that I've logged more hours on are BF2:BC2, MW and Forza2. there is no way that I should be able to pick up the game 2 weeks ago, create an ACR loadout and managed to go 40+ on kills in 3 straight matches and manage to get 2 AC-130s called in... basically because the ACR auto-resets and I stacked my killstreaks with such ease.

I don't find getting 40+ kills and 2 ac-130 streaks that surprising at all. You knew which loadouts were good and probably had the same sensitivity settings and knew the maps from before. It's not like you're going to forget how to play the game or completely lose your muscle memory.

how can you honestly argue that the MP wasn't borked with serious "holes" that could be constantly exploited(not hacked or cheated). not saying it wasn't fun for a good amount of time, but there were issues that constantly gave me scowl face.

Again, you probably feel this way because you only play hardcore which the game was not designed or balanced for. Yes there were a few glitches/bugs and there were some strong and annoying loadouts but I never saw anything that made the multiplayer "borked with serious "holes" that could be constantly exploited" as you say.


I probably come off as a MW2 fan boy but call of duty 4 is by far my favorite with black ops second, world at war third(I've never played it) and MW2 last(I own the PC version).

[Speedtrucker]

Of the 360 CoDs. Mw2 is by far my least favorite.

MW #1 by a mile
BlOps
WaW
MW2

As for the game not being designed with HC in mind is $#@!ty to hear.

I have never liked having to put multiple rounds into someone for a kill.

HC is the only way I can play without wanting to put my fist through soneones frontbottom.

[crackamacgowski]

COD2 will always be my favorite. Campaign and multiplayer.

[Jersey Man10]

#1 MW2 (Yes, dead serious)
#2 COD4
#3 That's it.

Never liked WAW or Black ops.

[vicerous]

#1 MW2 (Yes, dead serious)
#2 COD4
#3 That's it.

Never liked WAW or Black ops.

Agreed. Even with all of its balance issues, MW2 is still the best to date. Treyarch always has great ideas but half asses the execution.

Edit: #4 Zombies

[jshull09]

SO excited about this game...I returned World at War and Black ops within the first month of buying each...Modern Warfare versions have been so much better

[RR-Horn]

Do people still get online and play WAW? I might have to get on tonight and play a little.

[RR-Horn]

Less than two months away!

[ilovetexasfootball]

Here are some of the information about MW3 I found on another board that has compiled all the multiplayer stuff.
http://www.modernwarfare3forum.com/s...ead.php?t=9013

Perks:
Tier 1: You'll have to choose between faster flanks, faster kills after kills, ample ammo, avoiding air support, and marking enemies for teammates.

Recon:
Explosive damage paints the target on the mini-map.
Bullet damage paints the target on the mni-map.

Sleight Of Hand:
Faster reloading.
Swap weapons faster.

Blind Eye:
Undetectable by air support and sentries.
Launchers lock-on quicker. Extra buttet damage versus air support and sentries.

Extreme Conditioning:
Sprint for longer distances.
Climb obstacles faster.

Scavenger:
Reload ammo from bags.
Spawn with more ammo.

Tier 2: You'll have to choose between faster rewards, stealth, two weapons, quick ADS, and protection from explosives.

Quickdraw:
Faster aiming.
Recover from equipment and grenade usage quicker.

Blastshield:
Increased explosive resistance.
Resistance to flash and stun.

Hardline:
Killstreaks require 1 less kill.
Every two assists count as a kill towards your killstreak. Deathstreaks require 1 less death.

Assassin:
Undetectable by UAV, portable radar, thermal and heartbeat sensors.
Immune to CUAV and EMP. No red crosshair or name when targeted.

Overkill:
Two primary weapons
Second primary can have 2 attachments

Tier 3: You'll have to choose between finding traps, stealth, mobility advantage in a firefight, making sure your teammates kill a wounded enemy in hiding, and more concentrated hip-firing.

Marksman:
Identify enemy targets at longer range.
Longer hold breath.

Stalker:
Move faster while aiming.
Delay enemy Claymore explosions.

Sitrep:
Detect enemy explosives and tactical insertions.
Louder enemy footsteps.

Steady Aim:
Increased hip fire accuracy.
Weapon is ready faster after sprinting.

Dead Silence:
Your footsteps are silent
No fall damage





Strike Packages: Your Pointstreak Rewards. Now you can have a different set up for each class. You can now also level them up.

Assault Strike Package: These killstreaks stack (you can use one to get another).
3- UAV - shows enemies on the minimap.
4- Care Package - Airdrop a random killstreak or ammo.
5- IMS - The Intelligent Munitions System detects and eliminated enemy combatants.
5- Predator Missile - remote control missile.
5- Sentry Gun - airdrop a placeable Sentry Gun
6- Precision Airstrike - Call in a directional airstrike.
7- Attack Helicopter - call in a support helicopter.
9- Strafe Run - Strafing run of 5 attack helicopters.
9- Little Bird Guard (AH-6 Overwatch) - get personal air support from a Little Bird guardian
9- Reaper - Lase missile targets remotely from the Reaper UAV
10- Assault Drone - Air drop an Assault Drone
12- AC130 - Be the gunner of an AC130
12- Pavelow - Heavily armored assault helicopter.
15- Juggernaut - recieve advanced armor via carepackage. (LMG + Scavenger)
17- Osprey Gunner - Be the gunner of an Osprey delivering several care packages.


Support Strike Package: These do not reset after you die

4- UAV - Shows enemies on the minimap.
5- Counter UAV - Temporarily disables enemy radar.
5- Ballistics Vests - Deploy a bag of ballistic vests for your team.
5- Airdrop Trap - Kill enemies with a booby-trapped airdrop crate.
8- SAM Turret (Patriot Missile System) - Automated SAM turret that destroys aerial killstreaks.
10- Recon Drone - Control a Recon Drone, targeting enemies for your team.
12- Advanced UAV - Call in a Orbital Recon that shows the direction your enemy is facing.
12- Remote Turret (TALON) - Toss a small turret and remotely control it.
14- Stealth Bomber - Airstrike undetectable on enemy maps.
18- EMP - Temporarily disables enemy electronics.
18- Juggernaut Recon - receive advanced armor via care package. (Riot Shield + Radar + Scavenger)
18- Escort Airdrop - An Osprey delivers and defends several care packages.


Specialist Strike Package:

2- Extra Perk of your choice
4- Extra Perk of your choice
6- Extra Perk of your choice
8- Every Perk will be at your disposal


Deathstreaks:

4- Juiced - Move faster for a few seconds after spawning.
5- Revenge - You'll see the position of the last enemy that killed you.
4- Final Stand - As before. Unknown if you get back up, but you probably do.
4- Martyrdom - Drop a live grenade when you die.
6- Dead Man's Hand - according to the leak, you run around with C4 in your hand that can explode.
5- Hollow Points - according to the leak, you get stopping power for 1 kill.


Prestige Shop:

Once you hit the maximum level (lvl 80), you can choose what kind of bonus you get for prestiging.
Extra Custom Class
Reset All Stats
Double XP
Double Weapon XP
Unlock Gear
Challenges 1
Challenges 2
Challenges 3
Title And Emblem 1
Title And Emblem 2
Title And Emblem 3

[Dixie Normous]

I'm erect

[Jersey Man10]

I'm erect

fully erect

[vicerous]

Wow. Loving the "choose your prestige reward" feature.

[RR-Horn]

Thanks for postin ILTL.........online play is going to the shizzzy

[HornFan79]

Thanks for MP info, sounds awesome.

[RR-Horn]

One month and about 14 hours to go fellas...........

[Jersey Man10]

Campaign Trailer out:

[RR-Horn]

Campaign Trailer out:

Dizaaaaaam!

[The_Reason]

Placed my Hardened edition pre-order at the Mueller Best Buy. Will have it at midnight, and have the next day off...

[lowery21]

Time to take last years to gamestop.

[Fillmore Slim]

Do we get any perks or deals for pre-ordering it? I may want to pre-order at game stop ($5) then wait to read how the online game play is and whether or not tons of people use it. I don't even care if it's a lot like MW2, I loved that $#@!. And if they just made small improvements here and there to basically make a better version of mw2, that's fine by me. I just need to know if online play is poppin

[Speedtrucker]

Do we get any perks or deals for pre-ordering it? I may want to pre-order at game stop ($5) then wait to read how the online game play is and whether or not tons of people use it. I don't even care if it's a lot like MW2, I loved that $#@!. And if they just made small improvements here and there to basically make a better version of mw2, that's fine by me. I just need to know if online play is poppin

CoD titles don't usually incorporate store specific bonuses, seems like everyone is giving away a boring poster or some fashion of the image.

[Fillmore Slim]

I was hoping for a special gun or extra map or something...

[SniveliusMaximus]

I saw an ad yesterday for some "choose your perk" bonus at GameStop, but have no idea what it meant. Just went online. some kind of lame promotion. skip.

[RR-Horn]

I pre-ordered through Best Buy and didn't get sh*t. Anyone going to pre-order the Call of Duty Elite? I'm just a fan of the game so I might but it's probably just another way to get money out of me.

Pre-Order
Call of Duty ELITE Pre-order 1Yr Membership + Exclusive Theme ($49.99)
1-year Premium membership to Call of Duty ELITE, the online service that transforms your multiplayer experience. Includes access to Premium features and all Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 downloadable content. Pre-order to get Founder status and the exclusive Call of Duty ELITE Theme!
ESRB Rated M
File Size: 2.86 MB (Theme)

[Speedtrucker]

I saw an ad yesterday for some "choose your perk" bonus at GameStop, but have no idea what it meant. Just went online. some kind of lame promotion. skip.

Think that is a drawing contest thing, if you win you get to pick your "perk"/prize. Like a jeep or mw3 xbox and stuff

[huge]

$#@!. Guess I might need to dust off one of the old games to play some. Get back in the swing.

[ilovetexasfootball]

Start prestiging now in Black Ops or MW2 since you will get a prestige point in MW3 if you prestige in those previous games.

[Doc.Pringles]

Is this limited to one prestige? Also, I heard you get to "pick" bonuses for prestige (unique camo, extra class slots, tags, etc). I hope this would stack accordingly if true..

[ilovetexasfootball]

Is this limited to one prestige? Also, I heard you get to "pick" bonuses for prestige (unique camo, extra class slots, tags, etc). I hope this would stack accordingly if true..

Only one prestige for the previous games

[utxmike05]

Can't wait! Traded in a game at BB and got $30 off when I pre-ordered!

[Speedtrucker]

Can't wait! Traded in a game at BB and got $30 off when I pre-ordered!

Is BB giving extra toward trade ins for mw3?
I know sometimes it's an extra 30-50% on trade ins.

[vicerous]

Is BB giving extra toward trade ins for mw3?
I know sometimes it's an extra 30-50% on trade ins.

50% More Trade-In Value

when you trade in games and pre-order Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception or Saint's Row: The Third.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Video-Ga...at232900050010

Definitely worth trading in at Best Buy imo. They will give gift card credit for any amount over the 65$ for one of those pre-orders so take advantage of the extra 50% and trade in all of your old stuff.

[Speedtrucker]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Video-Ga...at232900050010

Definitely worth trading in at Best Buy imo. They will give gift card credit for any amount over the 65$ for one of those pre-orders so take advantage of the extra 50% and trade in all of your old stuff.

actually did it today and got $62 for 2 games, put it towards pre-order.

[Fillmore Slim]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Video-Ga...at232900050010

Definitely worth trading in at Best Buy imo. They will give gift card credit for any amount over the 65$ for one of those pre-orders so take advantage of the extra 50% and trade in all of your old stuff.

Hell ya. Got $48 today for some OLD ass games I forgot I even had.

[RR-Horn]

Whomever put the PS3 and Xbox 360 game tags.........can you repost? I can't seem to locate it and $#@! is about to GO DOWN IN T minus 15 days

[JimbAround]

what if you like to play both for different reasons?

YOU WILL CHOOSE A SIDE GODDAMMIT!

all caps

[heinhorn]

Start prestiging now in Black Ops or MW2 since you will get a prestige point in MW3 if you prestige in those previous games.

What is a prestige point?

[Bobby Light]

As Activision explains: "Every time you prestige in MW3, you'll receive a prestige token. Use it to unlock rewards like double XP for a limited time, an extra custom class, or choose one piece of gear from your custom class to keep unlocked from rank 1 of future prestiges."

Anyone who prestiged in MW2 and BO will automatically get some tokens to start unlocking stuff beofre you start playing