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**Speedtrucker** · 04-07-2012 06:26 PM

that was a poor offensive showing by both teams, I was missing some wide open shots there in the beginning of the game.

like I mentioned you were taking too many highly contested shots in the paint and then late you were taking too many contested pullups. the mid range jumpers with just about anyone on your team except for griffen and jordan will be high % shots. you should also start to tinker with your "minute allotments" in your coaching menus. you can run Billups at the 1 or 2 and he is money from anywhere on the court. the other bit of advice is don't go chasing on D and try your best not to scramble around, I missed some wide open normally makable shots because you would crash your guards in on a dribble drive. especially when I would drive with Wall, I was able to step back crossover and have my choice of Young or Lewis wide open on the 3pt line. just stick your your man, if you get beat don't switch men repeatedly because the offensive players will run to open spots on the floor. and with there being no slider sets, the CPU AI will eat you alive with any shot that is even remotely open to their shooters.

also learn to back down, butler has a decent back to the basket game and so does Foye but Foye is extremely streaky in the game. you don't have to back down all the way under the goal, like I did with Wall and Batum it just allows you to protect the ball and it also gives you a better ability to create a shot 1on1. you can attempt a spin move, a drive across the face of the basket, a fade away or just hit Y again and it automatically makes your player do a step back which you can try a step back jumper from. With Jordan and Griffen don't pump fake too much, just go hard when you get the ball underneath, again mainly because of the lack of sliders... you are just as likely to get blocked by a defender that was faked into the air as you are by him going up at the same time, if you do get them airborne try to jump into the defender with your shot you just might get a foul shot... maybe... rarely... but maybe...

**bigbend1812** · 04-07-2012 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

that was a poor offensive showing by both teams, I was missing some wide open shots there in the beginning of the game.

like I mentioned you were taking too many highly contested shots in the paint and then late you were taking too many contested pullups. the mid range jumpers with just about anyone on your team except for griffen and jordan will be high % shots. you should also start to tinker with your "minute allotments" in your coaching menus. you can run Billups at the 1 or 2 and he is money from anywhere on the court. the other bit of advice is don't go chasing on D and try your best not to scramble around, I missed some wide open normally makable shots because you would crash your guards in on a dribble drive. especially when I would drive with Wall, I was able to step back crossover and have my choice of Young or Lewis wide open on the 3pt line. just stick your your man, if you get beat don't switch men repeatedly because the offensive players will run to open spots on the floor. and with there being no slider sets, the CPU AI will eat you alive with any shot that is even remotely open to their shooters.

also learn to back down, butler has a decent back to the basket game and so does Foye but Foye is extremely streaky in the game. you don't have to back down all the way under the goal, like I did with Wall and Batum it just allows you to protect the ball and it also gives you a better ability to create a shot 1on1. you can attempt a spin move, a drive across the face of the basket, a fade away or just hit Y again and it automatically makes your player do a step back which you can try a step back jumper from. With Jordan and Griffen don't pump fake too much, just go hard when you get the ball underneath, again mainly because of the lack of sliders... you are just as likely to get blocked by a defender that was faked into the air as you are by him going up at the same time, if you do get them airborne try to jump into the defender with your shot you just might get a foul shot... maybe... rarely... but maybe...

I will do some practicing. The controls on this thing looks overwhelming. I'm lucky if i'm shooting and not passing and vice versa. Picked this thing up last week. Fist NBA game I have played. Been playing the myplayer game the whole time and got use to that camera angle. it would help if I did some practicing and stopped jacking up 3's. Thanks for the advise! Good game.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-07-2012 09:39 PM

eh, I still don't know how to do 50% of the "isomotion" controls with the L-trigger... I know how to crossover, step back, size-up, spin and a couple other moves. the rest is kinda useless to me and all the other stuff just kinda happens as I go along, I know that at certain spots on the floor I can expect certain types of moves but even then those change depending on the player you have.

with 2k11 I maybe played 5-6 games outside of myplayer, this is my first real experience since the xbox EA Live and Dreamcast 2k days. its a bit difficult to get used to broadcast view and you will have to remember the passing lanes aren't as open as they might "appear" to be.(mainly because the CPU ai is cheap with your passes unless you learn to use zone passing, which I haven't learned to do...)

so just heads up, if you actually get to play more user games in our OA here is kinda a breakdown.
Chicago, Dallas and Washington(myself) tend to play a more simulation/real style game. slower and running the offense, lower scores.
New York and Minnesota play a more run and gun style, they will streak up and down the court playing a 1man or 2man style offense. much higher scoring and fast paced.
Oklahoma City is a newb to NBA like you, he is learning as he goes... when he plays.
that being said, Minn and myself play more often, chicago and dallas play semi-regularly, new york and OKC play rarely.

**bigbend1812** · 04-07-2012 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

eh, I still don't know how to do 50% of the "isomotion" controls with the L-trigger... I know how to crossover, step back, size-up, spin and a couple other moves. the rest is kinda useless to me and all the other stuff just kinda happens as I go along, I know that at certain spots on the floor I can expect certain types of moves but even then those change depending on the player you have.

with 2k11 I maybe played 5-6 games outside of myplayer, this is my first real experience since the xbox EA Live and Dreamcast 2k days. its a bit difficult to get used to broadcast view and you will have to remember the passing lanes aren't as open as they might "appear" to be.(mainly because the CPU ai is cheap with your passes unless you learn to use zone passing, which I haven't learned to do...)

so just heads up, if you actually get to play more user games in our OA here is kinda a breakdown.
Chicago, Dallas and Washington(myself) tend to play a more simulation/real style game. slower and running the offense, lower scores.
New York and Minnesota play a more run and gun style, they will streak up and down the court playing a 1man or 2man style offense. much higher scoring and fast paced.
Oklahoma City is a newb to NBA like you, he is learning as he goes... when he plays.
that being said, Minn and myself play more often, chicago and dallas play semi-regularly, new york and OKC play rarely.

Well, glad to be aboard. Thanks for all the help!

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-08-2012 09:08 PM

Ugh, I haven't been able to play for 3-4 days now. I have all user games on queue and they are never online.

**UniformSierraMikeCharlie** · 04-08-2012 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

Ugh, I haven't been able to play for 3-4 days now. I have all user games on queue and they are never online.

I'll play you tomorrow after work

**Speedtrucker** · 04-09-2012 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

Ugh, I haven't been able to play for 3-4 days now. I have all user games on queue and they are never online.

who do you play? I know I had a user game against Knicks and I had to wait for it to sim cause he has fallen off the face of the earth.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-09-2012 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

who do you play? I know I had a user game against Knicks and I had to wait for it to sim cause he has fallen off the face of the earth.

CHI. He was killing me early. Then I caught up and took the lead with a couple mins left. Then Rose just stole the ball from any and every one. Ended up losing by 4.

The Bulls are a bish defensively. The steal, block/contest everything.

If it wasn't for Terrence Williams, I would've got blown out. Had to run my 2nd team. The starters did absolutely nothing.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-09-2012 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by UniformSierraMikeCharlie

I'll play you tomorrow after work

both of our games have been simmed already.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-09-2012 09:44 AM

$#@! Eric Gordon. The $#@!er says he wants to re-up but declines every contract I submit to him.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-09-2012 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

CHI. He was killing me early. Then I caught up and took the lead with a couple mins left. Then Rose just stole the ball from any and every one. Ended up losing by 4.

The Bulls are a bish defensively. The steal, block/contest everything.

If it wasn't for Terrence Williams, I would've got blown out. Had to run my 2nd team. The starters did absolutely nothing.

yeah I had him in our second meeting, I slowed the game down and played backdown Bball against them. exploited Boozer and Noah inside but now I see he made a pretty solid trade. had him beat in regulation but then Rose hit 2 long ass threes to tie it and send it to OT, I then beat him in OT handedly.

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

$#@! Eric Gordon. The $#@!er says he wants to re-up but declines every contract I submit to him.

Nick Young is doing the same thing to me, I keep upping the offer higher and higher but the $#@!er is acting like he is a 85+ rated player.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-09-2012 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

Nick Young is doing the same thing to me, I keep upping the offer higher and higher but the $#@!er is acting like he is a 85+ rated player.

I know you don't want to trade Young but I don't have that attachment to Gordon. His ass is gone. I have a trade in principle with the Pacers for Hibbert and Granger. I gave up a little much because I added Peckovic, Martel Webster and a 2nd but whatever. I'm not losing Gordon for nothing and I've had my eye on Hibbert for a minute. Hope he lives up to what I hope he is.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-10-2012 06:01 AM

User All-stars

WEST
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Chris Paul
Terrence Williams

EAST
Derrick Rose
Andre Iguodala
John Wall
Nick Young

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-10-2012 07:46 AM

Anyone else lose connection to the 2k servers relatively often?

I was kicking the Magic's ass. Up about 25. Paul George was closing in on a triple double. Paused for about 5 minutes got up and went down to talk my BIL. Come back and resume for about5 minutes and then game just freezes and goes back to the 2k12 start up screen and says connection to 2k servers lost.

Not the first time this has happened either. 2nd time its happened while I was in a game. Most of the time it happens while I am in the menus.

**UniformSierraMikeCharlie** · 04-10-2012 08:07 AM

I've never had any problems, played (lost) a game last night without any issues, no extended pauses though.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-10-2012 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by UniformSierraMikeCharlie

I've never had any problems, played (lost) a game last night without any issues, no extended pauses though.

Its weird. Maybe something is going on with my network connection. Its happened once or twice with NCAA but it seems to be a daily occurrence with 2k.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-10-2012 10:13 AM

haven't had any issues outside of framerate issues at times while in game, I have had issues where it won't connect to the 2k servers only when trying to access the online association. which has also bugged my quick menu screen access to my OA, if I select the OA "menu area" it will freeze and I have to restart my xbox.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-10-2012 10:13 AM

and on a side note, you shoulda just picked the Pacers and traded for Rubio... you now have more Pacers on your team than Timberwolves.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-10-2012 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

User All-stars

WEST
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Chris Paul
Terrence Williams

EAST
Derrick Rose
Andre Iguodala
John Wall
Nick Young

so any idea how the all-star game works? is it just a sim or what? be kinda cool if they would allow it to be like a "team up" game where you could only use your own players.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-10-2012 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

haven't had any issues outside of framerate issues at times while in game, I have had issues where it won't connect to the 2k servers only when trying to access the online association. which has also bugged my quick menu screen access to my OA, if I select the OA "menu area" it will freeze and I have to restart my xbox.

I've had that happen too.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-10-2012 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

and on a side note, you shoulda just picked the Pacers and traded for Rubio... you now have more Pacers on your team than Timberwolves.

Yeah, I thought about that the other day. They would've made Rubio almost impossible to get though. Plus I liked the TWolves but some of the players just really didn't play like their real life counter parts.

Love rebounded well on the defensive end but he would not go inside the 3 pt line on offense. Derrick Williams just kinda was there. Seemed to only score on hard cuts to the basket or fast breaks but he didn't finish as well as I would like. I will admit I'm kinda impatient though. If a guy does 2-3 games and doesn't play the way I think he should, I'm shopping him.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-10-2012 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

so any idea how the all-star game works? is it just a sim or what? be kinda cool if they would allow it to be like a "team up" game where you could only use your own players.

I was wondering about that as well. Would be kinda cool to team up but I suspect its just simmed.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-13-2012 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

User All-stars

WEST
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Chris Paul
Terrence Williams

EAST
Derrick Rose
Andre Iguodala
John Wall
Nick Young

Roy Hibbert was apparently a late injury sub

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-15-2012 07:51 PM

In the final stretch now. Most teams have about 20 games left.

**bigbend1812** · 04-15-2012 11:47 PM

Time to go 2-18! $#@! u Blake Griffen!!!

**Speedtrucker** · 04-15-2012 11:48 PM

Yeah, I think the CPU ain't gonna let me get that far past .500 so I've gotta maintain 8th or better...

Nick young is also in the running for scoring title.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-15-2012 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by bigbend1812

Time to go 2-18! $#@! u Blake Griffen!!!

Heh, post up game but his skill set doesn't translate well

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-16-2012 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by bigbend1812

Time to go 2-18! $#@! u Blake Griffen!!!

You can always trade him to me. :D

**bigbend1812** · 04-16-2012 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

You can always trade him to me. :D

I would if trade deadline hadn't pasted. Got so tired of cp3 missing shots I tried to trade him. The real problem is me. I suck but I have no trade value!

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-16-2012 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by bigbend1812

I would if trade deadline hadn't pasted. Got so tired of cp3 missing shots I tried to trade him. The real problem is me. I suck but I have no trade value!

lmao, Paul didn't have any trouble when you played me. He was making everything.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-16-2012 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by bigbend1812

I would if trade deadline hadn't pasted. Got so tired of cp3 missing shots I tried to trade him. The real problem is me. I suck but I have no trade value!

btw, just checking but have you turned on the shot timing feedback? where it shows you if you released the jumper early, on time or late? that will help.

also it helps to do the freestyle practice with hot zones turned on, that way you can see where each player has better chances of hitting shots.

for example I know Batum is a good 3pt shooter and has a good mid-range shot as well but his hot zones tell me that his best chances for mid range jumpers are around the elbows and his best chances for 3s are in the corners. John wall for some reason has a "dead zone" on the right elbow when facing the goal, it doesn't mean that he will miss everything there but it is helpfull to me to know that if I really need a basket I should avoid that spot at crunch time.

**bigbend1812** · 04-16-2012 02:09 PM

^^^^

Great Scott! No. No and no. That may help my game immensely. 3-17 here I come dammit!!!

**Speedtrucker** · 04-25-2012 02:46 PM

alright we are a day or 2 away from the playoffs.

Twolves locked into #1 overall seed
Mavs are either gonna finish #2 or #3 depending on tonights games
Thunder are tied for 7,8,9th with 1 game left.
Clips are tied for 7,8,9th with 1 game left.

Bulls currently 3rd with 82 games logged
knicks are currently 4th with 2 games left to overtake the Bulls for 3rd
Wiz are locked into 7th seed and a date with the Heat in the first round. I'm the only one with my matchup ready to go and hopefully I can continue my regular season streak against the Heat going, I'm 3-1 against them winning the last 3 including 2 blowouts.

Rubio will win rookie of the year
Durant is a lock for scoring title, Young couldn't catch him at the end of the season. had a 4 game injury that followed with 2 sub-20 games that derailed my effort.
everything else is up in the air...

I think the 3 hottest CPU teams going into the playoffs are Golden State, Detroit and the Celtics.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-25-2012 05:26 PM

Just logging in to catch up on things.

Clips just beat the Thunder. Both still tied with the Lakers.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-25-2012 05:27 PM

Wow, I could have UvU first round matchup.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-26-2012 06:07 AM

Rubio wins ROY..............and MVP????????

**UniformSierraMikeCharlie** · 04-26-2012 08:23 AM

I've drawn the Lakers in the 1st round, I was 3-1 against them during the season, including a 4 point come from behind win 2 nights ago. I'm going to try to complete my series with them tonight since I'm going to be out of town this weekend. I can't trust my team vs Kobe in a sim.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-26-2012 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by UniformSierraMikeCharlie

I've drawn the Lakers in the 1st round, I was 3-1 against them during the season, including a 4 point come from behind win 2 nights ago. I'm going to try to complete my series with them tonight since I'm going to be out of town this weekend. I can't trust my team vs Kobe in a sim.

That's for sure. He is hard enough to deal with in an actual game. I think he is avg'ing 678908980 pts vs the T-Wolves.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-26-2012 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

Rubio wins ROY..............and MVP????????

ROY i get but MVP?!? mediocre averages for a PG outside of assists, roster turnover alone should have prevented this alone seeing as how technically the Twolves should have a low team chemistry.

not that Young should have won it but I figured James or Wade would win it since they seemed to win just as many player of the month awards. never actually seen 2k just pick the "best" player on the best team before.

gotta see what my 4 team goals that I achieved are. I know I got 15reward pts for 2 allstars, 15 pts for making the playoffs but guess there was something else.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-26-2012 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

ROY i get but MVP?!? mediocre averages for a PG outside of assists, roster turnover alone should have prevented this alone seeing as how technically the Twolves should have a low team chemistry.

not that Young should have won it but I figured James or Wade would win it since they seemed to win just as many player of the month awards. never actually seen 2k just pick the "best" player on the best team before.

gotta see what my 4 team goals that I achieved are. I know I got 15reward pts for 2 allstars, 15 pts for making the playoffs but guess there was something else.

yeah, but he did also lead the league in stls. regardless no way he should've been MVP. I actually thought George or maybe even Granger would have a chance before Rubio.

LOL Ricky didn't make 1st team All-NBA (he did make 3rd though) but was the MVP.

FTR My team chemistry is up to about 55% now.

**Speedtrucker** · 04-26-2012 02:54 PM

you gotta be $#@!ing kidding me, the playoff calendar is already rolling... $#@!ing sim loss to Miami in game 1.

and actually so did you cleanupman but I've got a bigger uphill battle against the heat

**UniformSierraMikeCharlie** · 04-26-2012 02:55 PM

3 point win vs the Lakers, up 1-0. Just gotta get home and win 3 more.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-26-2012 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

you gotta be $#@!ing kidding me, the playoff calendar is already rolling... $#@!ing sim loss to Miami in game 1.

and actually so did you cleanupman but I've got a bigger uphill battle against the heat

sunuvabeesh

I don't know how to handle this when ttack is never online. This would be some severe BS for me to lose this series because all of the games were simmed.

**UniformSierraMikeCharlie** · 04-26-2012 05:04 PM

I shot him a text about playing you. He said he'll get online tonight.

Around 11pm your time, I know it's late but he lives in Denver

**Speedtrucker** · 04-27-2012 02:30 AM

$#@! this stupid no slider bs. Out 4-2 to Miami who I outplayed but magic decides that they can hit crazy ass shots but I'll miss a 1ft shot where I have a guy 8" shorter and out of position... And that they earned 25+ FTs but I get knocked out of a dunk and nothing is called, I earn 1FT and it's only because of a def 3sec.

Or I play perfect defense yet the animation is just not allowing me to defend so I'm running in place against lebron while he "slides/warps" around me for a dunk, yet any juke I make to free up better be a pullup cause if I go for a dunk I can expect the animation to be switched magically to a contact flip/toss without a call.

Expect me to be like the Knicks and thunder, non-existent cause this is $#@!ing stupid without sliders.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-27-2012 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

$#@! this stupid no slider bs. Out 4-2 to Miami who I outplayed but magic decides that they can hit crazy ass shots but I'll miss a 1ft shot where I have a guy 8" shorter and out of position... And that they earned 25+ FTs but I get knocked out of a dunk and nothing is called, I earn 1FT and it's only because of a def 3sec.

Or I play perfect defense yet the animation is just not allowing me to defend so I'm running in place against lebron while he "slides/warps" around me for a dunk, yet any juke I make to free up better be a pullup cause if I go for a dunk I can expect the animation to be switched magically to a contact flip/toss without a call.

Expect me to be like the Knicks and thunder, non-existent cause this is $#@!ing stupid without sliders.

man that sucks

**Speedtrucker** · 04-27-2012 08:32 AM

it's not that it's a bad game, its just the default sliders are $#@!ing stupid. I play a game using the OpSports "real" sliders and I love it, I switch over and play this OA and I see so much stupid "random" stuff.

if my uploading would work properly I'd upload like 10 videos I've capped and 8 of them are retardedness that happen including last night when I had a dunk that was nearly 50% of the way into the basket before Wall went into contact flip mode so he pulls the ball away and flips it back up towards the basket.

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-27-2012 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

it's not that it's a bad game, its just the default sliders are $#@!ing stupid. I play a game using the OpSports "real" sliders and I love it, I switch over and play this OA and I see so much stupid "random" stuff.

if my uploading would work properly I'd upload like 10 videos I've capped and 8 of them are retardedness that happen including last night when I had a dunk that was nearly 50% of the way into the basket before Wall went into contact flip mode so he pulls the ball away and flips it back up towards the basket.

Totally agree on the sliders. Makes it a completely different game.

You found a slider download somewhere?

**Speedtrucker** · 04-27-2012 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by da_clean_up_man

Totally agree on the sliders. Makes it a completely different game.

You found a slider download somewhere?

yeah someone on Op Sports recommended it, creates more realistic sim results and the gameplay is so much more clean and less full of BS "sliding/warping" when attempting to play defense and less "contact/contested" shot altering. you are still going to draw contact if you jump into someone but it helps lower the "I've got a wide open dunk, the ball is going into the hoop, no wait the PG from 7 feet away warped into position and now I'm magically in a contested layup animation, and now I've missed."

**da_clean_up_man** · 04-27-2012 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Speedtrucker

yeah someone on Op Sports recommended it, creates more realistic sim results and the gameplay is so much more clean and less full of BS "sliding/warping" when attempting to play defense and less "contact/contested" shot altering. you are still going to draw contact if you jump into someone but it helps lower the "I've got a wide open dunk, the ball is going into the hoop, no wait the PG from 7 feet away warped into position and now I'm magically in a contested layup animation, and now I've missed."

Gotcha. I just adjusted mine manually.

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