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judge roybeanbag
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 Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: Rick Perry buying votes |
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This doesn't sit well with me, on a fundamental level.
| Quote: | Volunteers are making money working for Rick Perry's re-election campaign. One, identified as Shaniqua Curry, is even asking her Twitter followers (above) to help her earn money to buy a car. Here's how the program, known as Perry Home Headquarters, works:
1. Volunteers are asked to recruit friends and neighbors, who are called Perry Home Headquarters.
2. The Headquarters pledge in turn to recruit 11 more people to vote for Perry in the March primary.
3. The initial volunteers get $20 for each Perry Home Headquarter recruited, plus another $20 for every 11 voters each Headquarter signs up to vote in the primary. |
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-perrybox_29tex.ART.State.Edition1.4be0f3b.html |
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Orange&White
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| A Ponzi scheme involving votes? |
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DCA_HORN
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Better or worse than Acorn? |
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GraciePie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Perry's created his own ACORN? |
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kevwun
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| What, was handing people a vote for Perry sticker and a 20 outside of polling locations too obvious? |
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judge roybeanbag
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Better or worse than Acorn? |
Fundamentally the same, I'd think, if they are both paying people to vote. |
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Orange&White
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| He'll get all the votes he'll ever need once he gets Bonfire back on the aggie campus. |
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judge roybeanbag
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | He'll get all the votes he'll ever need once he gets Bonfire back on the aggie campus. |
Yeah but he may lose 12 or 13 if it goes like last time. |
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Pepper Brooks
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| GraciePie wrote: | | Perry's created his own ACORN? |
so this makes it okay? geez. This has to stop. Immediately if not sooner. I am going to lose my mind of the Reps start making the excuse that Obama does it. Well, yeah and we all know what a POS he is for it. This must stop. |
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DCA_HORN
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Pepper Brooks wrote: | | so this makes it okay? geez. This has to stop. Immediately if not sooner. I am going to lose my mind of the Reps start making the excuse that Obama does it. Well, yeah and we all know what a POS he is for it. This must stop. |
There is a subtle difference. Rick is promising $ out of his campaign fund for volunteers. Acorn and thus POTUS promised tax $s in return for votes including those of the deceased. |
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Longhorn_Fan68
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| judge roybeanbag wrote: | | Quote: | | He'll get all the votes he'll ever need once he gets Bonfire back on the aggie campus. |
Yeah but he may lose 12 or 13 if it goes like last time. |
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Michael Knight
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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naked_bongo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Acorn and thus POTUS promised tax $s in return for votes including those of the deceased. |
ACORN registered people to vote. There was no dollar per vote like Perry is doing. |
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GraciePie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| naked_bongo wrote: | | Quote: | | Acorn and thus POTUS promised tax $s in return for votes including those of the deceased. |
ACORN registered people to vote. There was no dollar per vote like Perry is doing. |
Same thing here dumbass.
Luckily with the system we have and voter anonymity its impossible to actually pay for votes, only to pay for registering voters. |
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naked_bongo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Same thing here dumbass. |
Did you read the story? You are getting paid to recruit Perry voters. That's completely different than ACORN's operation. You can take issue with ACORN's operation, but they weren't recruiting voters for specific candidates. |
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tx 3 putt
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ACORN better handles the smuggling of 13 yo's for sex slaves in the US as opposed to buying votes |
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wildcat09
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| GraciePie wrote: | Same thing here dumbass.
Luckily with the system we have and voter anonymity its impossible to actually pay for votes, only to pay for registering voters. |
I love unintentional humor. |
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judge roybeanbag
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Luckily with the system we have and voter anonymity its impossible to actually pay for votes, only to pay for registering voters. |
| Quote: | | 2. The Headquarters pledge in turn to recruit 11 more people to vote for Perry in the March primary. |
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GraciePie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand how some of you people function.
How can you be against Perry's mini-ACORN (which I am) but for the actual ACORN, when they are the exact same thing.
Perry pays people by the number they recruit to vote. ACORN pays people by the number they register to vote.
Good god, its not that difficult to comprehend. Recruit=register. Different word, same thing.
And judge, I know this might be difficult for someone of your under-developed brain to understand, but with anonymous voting Perry could give me one thousand dollars to vote for him, register me, and send me to the booth, and have zero guarantee that he got his money's worth. |
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Xian
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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why must you people just hide behind party lines?
this and acorn are both disgusting and horrid for democracy. |
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Tyler Durden
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| This sounds a little like Mary Kay. Do I get a maroon car if I get enough people to join? |
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tx 3 putt
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| GraciePie wrote: | Same thing here dumbass.
Luckily with the system we have and voter anonymity its impossible to actually pay for votes, only to pay for registering voters. |
one of my cousin's has ran for state rep a couple of times, not some bs race, #41 and perry both helped him fundraise / campaign.
he was approached by two community activist type people, 100 absentee votes for 500 bucks. both were people he'd known a very long time. they approached him first and told him, the write in votes would put him over the top, but if he said no they'd offer them to his opponent.
this happened in both elections and in both elections he pretty much lost on the absentee votes. |
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GraciePie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'd forgotten about absentee votes, I guess that is very possible.
Its also possible to buy votes in congress, since those aren't anonymous. |
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tx 3 putt
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| GraciePie wrote: | I'd forgotten about absentee votes, I guess that is very possible.
Its also possible to buy votes in congress, since those aren't anonymous. |
they give someone at a nursing home a little money, and that buys enough information to request an absentee ballot for people in the home. they'll also request absentee ballots of the recently dead, they're still on the voter rolls.
the second election, his opponent had over 1000 absentee votes, he had 125. |
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GraciePie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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What's the solution?
Does getting rid of absentee ballots disenfranchise too many voters to be a viable option? |
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judge roybeanbag
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And judge, I know this might be difficult for someone of your under-developed brain to understand, but with anonymous voting Perry could give me one thousand dollars to vote for him, register me, and send me to the booth, and have zero guarantee that he got his money's worth. |
Take some Pamprin, woman. He's paying people to vote for him. Is that not clear? If they don't vote for him, well, he's a dumbfuck aggie.
And btw, nowhere in this thread did I defend Acorn. Why the butthurt? |
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smax
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| naked_bongo wrote: | | You can take issue with ACORN's operation, but they weren't recruiting voters for specific candidates. |
You don't honestly believe that do you? |
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landman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="naked_bongo"] | Quote: | | You can take issue with ACORN's operation, but they weren't recruiting voters for specific candidates. |
Seriously? It's a shame that you have the right to vote with this kind of thinking. |
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groverat
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Acorn and thus POTUS promised tax $s in return for votes including those of the deceased. |
What madness is this?
| Quote: | How can you be against Perry's mini-ACORN (which I am) but for the actual ACORN, when they are the exact same thing.
Perry pays people by the number they recruit to vote. ACORN pays people by the number they register to vote. |
A few problems...
1) ACORN does not pay per registered voter. Their registry workers are paid by the hour.
2) Perry pays people to vote for him. ACORN pays people to go register people who make no promise to vote for any particular candidate.
So basically everything you're asserting is wrong.
| Quote: | | this and acorn are both disgusting and horrid for democracy. |
ACORN as an organization is actually pretty great aside from a few well-known employee morons. Of course, it's employees are mainly from the lower economic classes so one can't expect too much from them.
| Quote: | You don't honestly believe that do you?
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Seriously? It's a shame that you have the right to vote with this kind of thinking. |
Is there some kind of evidence to the contrary? It would be pretty easy to find evidence of ACORN workers pushing Obama given that, by definition, their advocacy would be public and quite frequently performed. |
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judge roybeanbag
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argh.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: |
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It's wrong, no matter who the fuck does it..
The Aggie bonfire joke was greatness.. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: Re: Rick Perry buying votes |
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| judge roybeanbag wrote: | This doesn't sit well with me, on a fundamental level.
| Quote: | Volunteers are making money working for Rick Perry's re-election campaign. One, identified as Shaniqua Curry, is even asking her Twitter followers (above) to help her earn money to buy a car. Here's how the program, known as Perry Home Headquarters, works:
1. Volunteers are asked to recruit friends and neighbors, who are called Perry Home Headquarters.
2. The Headquarters pledge in turn to recruit 11 more people to vote for Perry in the March primary.
3. The initial volunteers get $20 for each Perry Home Headquarter recruited, plus another $20 for every 11 voters each Headquarter signs up to vote in the primary. |
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-perrybox_29tex.ART.State.Edition1.4be0f3b.html |
Pyramid schemes are illegal in Texas. Someone alert the authorities! Oh wait.... |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| I want to know where da gowld at. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| If Perry would smart he would push for internet voting and then he would be guv for life whoop! |
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